canadienhater 0 Report post Posted June 20, 2007 To me it is a no brainer i would choose schneider over markov.schneider is just about as good in the D zone and is far better offensively and while not as physical schneider does have a mean streak not to mention his role on the power play Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Motown 0 Report post Posted June 20, 2007 ya its been talked about a ton of times before but if the moneys right id sign Schneider any day but its all about the cap these days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeta Power 40 1 Report post Posted June 20, 2007 # 23 or # 95 anyday. I'm pretty sure Holland will strike gold and bring back both only because he's the great powerful Kenny Holland # 23 or # 95 anyday. I'm pretty sure Holland will strike gold and bring back both only because he's the great powerful Kenny Holland Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Booster313 138 Report post Posted June 20, 2007 Schneider>Markov Markov's are easier to replace...Scheider's are few and far between Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted June 20, 2007 Schnieder , no questions asked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockey13Playa 240 Report post Posted June 20, 2007 Schneider for sure. Markov is garbage. Wasn't really satisfied with him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Majsheppard 203 Report post Posted June 20, 2007 Without a doubt Schneids is better, but then again what are our plans? It may be better to go with Markov if Kindl is coming up. Or maybe a younger Souray to replace 23? Personally I think a tough stay at home guy like Markov is much easier to replace then a powerplay specialist with a toughside. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted June 20, 2007 Markov is garbage. Hardly. While the Wings still could use some more snarl in the lineup, and while the Wings did play fairly well without Schneider in the lineup, he was eventually missed later in the Duck series I think. He's not a world beater in his own zone defensively, but he's still very important in the Wings lineup, helping QB a PP unit and giving the powerplay more solid depth. As much as I'd like to keep both, I really like Markov's game, but Schneider has more value. If it comes down to it, Schneider. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jwo 7 Report post Posted June 20, 2007 Markov for sure. hahaha I am just joking. Ofcourse you bring back Schneider Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockey13Playa 240 Report post Posted June 20, 2007 (edited) Hardly. While the Wings still could use some more snarl in the lineup, and while the Wings did play fairly well without Schneider in the lineup, he was eventually missed later in the Duck series I think. He's not a world beater in his own zone defensively, but he's still very important in the Wings lineup, helping QB a PP unit and giving the powerplay more solid depth. As much as I'd like to keep both, I really like Markov's game, but Schneider has more value. If it comes down to it, Schneider. I see where you are coming from, but I think he did more things wrong then he did right. I did like his little bit of physical play, or snarl as you put it, but I would rather see the wings sign Schneider and aonther D man instead of Markov. Edited June 20, 2007 by Hockey13Playa Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted June 20, 2007 Schneider. He is extremely valuable to this team. His offensive production and work on the PP is very important to the teams success. Look what happened after he went down during the playoffs. Markov is easily replaceable anyways, since guys like Sarich, Sutton, Rivet, etc. all play the same way he does. I just hope Schneids doesn't get greedy and decide to test the market, especially after the stupid Flyers decided to throw the book at Kimmo Timonen. Of course, Schneids did say he really likes it here, and it's the most comfortable he's ever been on any of his teams. I think he'll decide to stay, and I hope he does. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted June 20, 2007 Without a doubt Schneids is better, but then again what are our plans? It may be better to go with Markov if Kindl is coming up. Or maybe a younger Souray to replace 23? Personally I think a tough stay at home guy like Markov is much easier to replace then a powerplay specialist with a toughside. Souray is not as good as Schneider, but will cost likely upwards of 2m MORE than Schneider. Signing Souray is the worst possible move; It handcuffs us to a second 6m+ contract for a defenseman, likely multi-year, right before Zetterberg's deal expires. This basically screws the Wings--it would mean that either the Wings have 27m tied up in four players, or Lidstrom retires and because of Souray's contract, Souray and Kronwall are now the 1-2 punch in Detroit. I would rather sign Schneider for a 2 year deal at 4m than Souray for a 4 year deal at 6m. When Schneider's 2yr is up, Zetterberg will need to be resigned. If Schneider chooses to retire, Kronwall is ready to take his spot and Schneider's cap hit gets tacked onto Hank. If Schneider chooses to stick around? He'll likely be less effective, and declining as the years go by. He'll accept a bargain deal much like Chelios did, or he'll go elsewhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KronwallCRUNCH 5 Report post Posted June 20, 2007 Schneider is a Norris finalist if he plays on a team without Lidstrom. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoWings1905 2,694 Report post Posted June 20, 2007 Hands down, Mathieu Schneider. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CdnWingsFanEh 2 Report post Posted June 20, 2007 Schneider... Come on, isn't it obvious? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gordie Howe hat trick 110 Report post Posted June 20, 2007 It is Schneider for sure, but even if it comes down to us not needing the D man that Schneider is if we sign him we could trade him for some more offense. Assuming he doesn't have a no trade clause in his contract. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sharomyga 6 Report post Posted June 20, 2007 would love to see BOTH of them! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DetroitIan Report post Posted June 20, 2007 Schneider for sure. But Markov is up in the air for me. I think he's a very solid d-man. But if Kenny thinks he can fill that role in by going in a different direction, I trust him. Andy Sutton is a UFA, he can also lay the body down and has tons of grit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites