Hasek expected to sign by end of week.

[ShanahanMan 473]

5 mil? Yikes.....very disappointing

[puckloo39 5,686]

What the hell are you smoking? Can you honestly say that Hasek did not play like a $2.5 million dollar goaltender this season? He played like a top-tier goalie, and $2.5 mill is nowhere near top-tier money. Get a grip.

Don't waste your time. People who don't appreciate Hasek never will, despite his contributions and obvious worth to the team.

[Curban915 0]

I just hope he does not get hurt half way thru the season like he has in the past.

[Opie 308]

^^^^

That scares the crap out of me!!!

[zata40 3]

aggg! I really like Schneider, he reminds me a lot of lids, being a blue line sniper an all.

I hope he breaks down and will sign for less money.

other than that, the price for dom is OK, and the same for bert. As long as Dom can stay in health and Bert gets him game going again.

[Curban915 0]

We will spend half our cap on player who ??? when it come to health. Risky move lets just see how it plays out.

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

aggg! I really like Schneider, he reminds me a lot of lids, being a blue line sniper an all.

I hope he breaks down and will sign for less money.

other than that, the price for dom is OK, and the same for bert. As long as Dom can stay in health and Bert gets him game going again.

Aside from being a blue line sniper, Schneider is nowhere near Lids. Schneider could only dream of reading the game the way Lidstrom does. Lids' hockey intelligence puts him way out of Schneider's league.

[Wildwings44 5]

Sounds good to me- hopefully the price is low

[redwingfan19 293]

ok so basically we are going to spend 4-5 mil on our goalie and Bert? Steal if you ask me, Haskek is worth it he's still a top 5 goalie and will give us a chance to win. 2 mill for Bert blows my mind I thought he'd want 3-3.5 but 2 is awsome! So lets go out and sign one of Sarich or sutton (preferbly sarich becuase he has a booming shot) and take a run at smyth. Smyth might sign for 5, he wanted 5.5 to stay in Edmonton and i think hed take 5 to come to the wings to have a chance to win the cup.

Edited June 26, 2007 by redwingfan19

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

I was really hoping they'd sign Dom for a base salary of under $2 mill. Then incentives from there.

He was great last year, but that doesn't change the fact that he's 42 with chronic groin problems. No one would've taken the gamble on him that Holland took last year. That should count for something. And I still don't think many teams would gamble on him this year.

As for Schneider, if he's really looking for $5 mill, I say let him go try and get it somewhere.

And Bert for 2 or 2.5 would be great. Hopefully signed only for a year or two.

[SwedeLundin77 460]

Good news, but I was really hoping we could sign him for under 2 million. The only reason I want to keep it down is because of his age and risk of injury due to it. I think he deserves a raise, but more like a million more and some incentives for playoff performance.

[Wings_Dynasty 267]

If we can't afford to pay Matty $5M why do you think we would pay Smyth $6M

We don't need a defenseman, we need forwards.

[Rice 42]

I am going to complain. 2.5 is too much for him. Plus that million in possible bonus money could make it harder to sign players next year.

Screw this.

Find me a better goalie for less than $2.5 million and then you can complain.

[edicius 3,269]

If Schneids is asking for that much, I have to concur - let him go.

Glad to hear that Dom will be back. At least we'll avoid the regular goalie-go-round in Detroit for at least one more season.

[LIDDYGIBBY5 1]

What the hell are you smoking? Can you honestly say that Hasek did not play like a $2.5 million dollar goaltender this season? He played like a top-tier goalie, and $2.5 mill is nowhere near top-tier money. Get a grip.

Last year he was worth $2.5M. That doesn't mean that he will be worth that this year. One year older = one year closer to breaking down. Do you really think that he can go two years at this point in his career with out an injury? That is a lot of risk for 1/4 of what the team has to spend this year.

[J-Swift 0]

Hasek at 2.5 just isnt something I want , why cant he sign for 1.5?

2 for Bert is perfect , at least he isnt being greedy.

So Dom has a dynamite regular season and is a huge contributor in the playoffs (arguably our post-season MVP after Lidstrom), while Bert manages three goals in three rounds. But because he wants all of 500k less than Hasek, Bertuzzi is being fair while Dom is being greedy?

[Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204]

So Dom has a dynamite regular season and is a huge contributor in the playoffs (arguably our post-season MVP after Lidstrom), while Bert manages three goals in three rounds. But because he wants all of 500k less than Hasek, Bertuzzi is being fair while Dom is being greedy?

At 42 years old , yes he is. Hes already collected millions of dollars in his career, He could take 1.5 million or less with incentives like last time and help the team out.

While hes certainly worth the money , if this was pre salary cap era I'd give him 6 million , He just doesnt need that much money now.

Bertuzzi would get 4 million from other teams hence why at 2 million hes gonna be a bargain , espicially if he gets healthy and starts playing like himself again.

Edited June 26, 2007 by Detroit # 1 Fan

[kindlwillbegreat 0]

At 42 years old , yes he is. Hes already collected millions of dollars in his career, He could take 1.5 million or less with incentives like last time and help the team out.

While hes certainly worth the money , if this was pre salary cap era I'd give him 6 million , He just doesnt need that much money now.

Bertuzzi would get 4 million from other teams hence why at 2 million hes gonna be a bargain , espicially if he gets healthy and starts playing like himself again.

i dont think bertuzzi would come back for 2 , itll probably cost us 3 .........3 for bert, 2.5 for hasek and that leaves us with 4.5 ????? , i think hasek, bert and markov will come back , if we need more cap then trade lilja , it would be an extra 1.5-2 for markov , if ryan smyth would be willing to take a discount at 5 yrs , 25 million then maybe say bye to markov , but in 2 seasons lidstrom would have to take a nice cut for zetterberg

btw ..........this is off hockey but any idea what happened to benoit ?? now im hearing its a murder suicide ?? i cant see benoit doing something like that .......he had 2 other kids right ?

[Bannedforlife 403]

I was really hoping they'd sign Dom for a base salary of under $2 mill. Then incentives from there.

He was great last year, but that doesn't change the fact that he's 42 with chronic groin problems. No one would've taken the gamble on him that Holland took last year. That should count for something. And I still don't think many cup-contending teams would gamble on him this year.

As for Schneider, if he's really looking for $5 mill, I say let him go try and get it somewhere.

And Bert for 2 or 2.5 would be great. Hopefully signed only for a year or two.

^^^Fixed it^^^

I can think of about 15 teams with cap to blow and zero chance of winning the cup that would be willing to take a chance on Dom.

Edited June 26, 2007 by Bannedforlife

[Packer487 3]

Last year he was worth $2.5M. That doesn't mean that he will be worth that this year. One year older = one year closer to breaking down. Do you really think that he can go two years at this point in his career with out an injury? That is a lot of risk for 1/4 of what the team has to spend this year.

How many people gave him a chance of making it through last year unscathed? I think it's pretty clear that the Wings have him on a good workout regimen that Hasek is willing to follow.

Who else would you rather spend that money on? David Aebischer? C'mon.

With Hasek, this team is a Cup contender. Without Hasek, they aren't because there's no one on the market that could give us what Dom does for an equal price (or for even double the price).

At 42 years old , yes he is. Hes already collected millions of dollars in his career, He could take 1.5 million or less with incentives like last time and help the team out.

While hes certainly worth the money , if this was pre salary cap era I'd give him 6 million , He just doesnt need that much money now.

Schneider has millions. Bertuzzi has millions, even if he might be giving some of that to Steve Moore. Markov's got a lot of money in the bank. Come to think of it, so does Lidstrom. Datsyuk could've taken $6.2 million with the understanding that that extra $500,000 go toward improving the team. Kronwall could've realized that he sucks and not taken a salary HIGHER THAN HENRIK ZETTERBERG'S.

When you're a #1 goalie in the NHL, and were probably in the Top 5 of all goalies last year...and when you had the team essentially one goal away from another Stanley Cup, you've earned $2.5 million if that's what you want. There are plenty of crappy goalies making more than that (Gerber - $3.7 million is an example....Jose Theodore would be another). $2.5 milliion is a NOTHING for a goalie that can allow your team to contend for the championship.

It'd be nice if he'd take less. But it absolutely blows my ******* mind that anyone can say that he's greedy when he'd still be making 50% OR LESS than what he should be making for what he gives this team.

For Crissakes, he'd be making less than Kronwall.

-Tim

[puckloo39 5,686]

I love the whole concept of "'Dom should take less money to help the team... because he's old... because he might get hurt... etc. etc. etc." Why? Or more to the point, why don't they all take less money, it's the right thing to do!

As I've said before, if he plays for peanuts, Dom's a chump in some people's opinions. If he signs for even remotely what he's worth, he's greedy. Either way, someone will complain. He might as well do what he and Holland consider a reasonable deal. I would say, no one will be complaining when we win the conference and head into the playoffs next Spring -- except people DID still complain this season, so what are the odds of that?

The Wings know they won't get anyone better in terms of fit with the team and performance than Hasek.

Let's just say he decides not to sign with Detroit? Then who do you get with the same credentials, for the same money? We all know over-paying a player isn't a guarantee of success, so who do you go after for $2.5M with Hasek's skills and savvy?

Not that it matters, the Wings are going to sign Dom.

PS - Packer? You are the man!

Edited June 26, 2007 by puckloo39

[kindlwillbegreat 0]

I love the whole concept of "'Dom should take less money to help the team... because he's old... because he might get hurt... etc. etc. etc." Why? Or more to the point, why don't they all take less money, it's the right thing to do!

As I've said before, if he plays for peanuts, Dom's a chump in some people's opinions. If he signs for even remotely what he's worth, he's greedy. Either way, someone will complain. He might as well do what he and Holland consider a reasonable deal. I would say, no one will be complaining when we win the conference and head into the playoffs next Spring -- except people DID still complain this season, so what are the odds of that?

The Wings know they won't get anyone better in terms of fit with the team and performance than Hasek.

Let's just say he decides not to sign with Detroit? Then who do you get with the same credentials, for the same money? We all know over-paying a player isn't a guarantee of success, so who do you go after for $2.5M with Hasek's skills and savvy?

Not that it matters, the Wings are going to sign Dom.

i dont think he'll sign for peanuts but he wont be asking for 4+ either , he knows his time is coming to an end soon and if he wants to win another cup he cant take most of the remaining cap we got left

[evil204 4]

I don't get it. If Hasek really wants to win the Cup, he needs to take a big pay cut (again) so we can sign everyone we need. This team will have pretty big holes in just about every area if Schneider, Markov and Bertuzzi don't come back.

He needs to realize that nothing changed from last year. Yes, he had a great season, but he's still old, and he's still just as injury-prone as he was one year ago. He's an even bigger risk this time because he's a year older. If he wants money, then give him a $1M base salary and something like $4M in bonuses. If we reach the finals with Hasek in net, I'd be happy to pay him whatever he wants. But if he breaks down 5 games into the season...well, we're screwed

[Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204]

I love the whole concept of "'Dom should take less money to help the team... because he's old... because he might get hurt... etc. etc. etc." Why? Or more to the point, why don't they all take less money, it's the right thing to do!

As I've said before, if he plays for peanuts, Dom's a chump in some people's opinions. If he signs for even remotely what he's worth, he's greedy. Either way, someone will complain. He might as well do what he and Holland consider a reasonable deal. I would say, no one will be complaining when we win the conference and head into the playoffs next Spring -- except people DID still complain this season, so what are the odds of that?

The Wings know they won't get anyone better in terms of fit with the team and performance than Hasek.

Let's just say he decides not to sign with Detroit? Then who do you get with the same credentials, for the same money? We all know over-paying a player isn't a guarantee of success, so who do you go after for $2.5M with Hasek's skills and savvy?

Not that it matters, the Wings are going to sign Dom.

It seems like you always have to defend Dom loo

I guess 2.5 isnt too bad , espicially if he does what he did this year. I love Doms antics , He definately the most entertaining goalie to watch.

Its more Schnieder's contract demands that irked me , Hes a great defenceman and with what most defenceman are gonna get its reasonable for him to want that. Still , a hometown discount to stay in Motown shouldnt be out of his name.

Plus , Bert at 2 and Dom at 2.5 is only 4.5 which is only a little more then what Lang was making , so him leaving and them getting re-signed is pretty good actually. If the cap does rise to 49/52 , we'd still have a great shot at the man in my avatar.

[puckloo39 5,686]

It seems like you always have to defend Dom loo

I guess 2.5 isnt too bad , espicially if he does what he did this year. I love Doms antics , He definately the most entertaining goalie to watch.

Its more Schnieder's contract demands that irked me , Hes a great defenceman and with what most defenceman are gonna get its reasonable for him to want that. Still , a hometown discount to stay in Motown shouldnt be out of his name.

Plus , Bert at 2 and Dom at 2.5 is only 4.5 which is only a little more then what Lang was making , so him leaving and them getting re-signed is pretty good actually. If the cap does rise to 49/52 , we'd still have a great shot at the man in my avatar.

I am generally not defending Dom, so much as trying to point out how silly some of the arguments and complaints about him are. He doesn't actually need anyone to defend him, since he hasn't done anything wrong.

If Hasek should take less money than everyone else to help the team -- then they all should, if that's the theory. Kronwall should renegotiate his contract, and so should Datsyuk, and return money to the kettle so Kenny can get someone great to put us over the top.

You are correct that the $4.5M for Dom and Bert will not the reason the team doesn't get better.

I don't get it. If Hasek really wants to win the Cup, he needs to take a big pay cut (again) so we can sign everyone we need. This team will have pretty big holes in just about every area if Schneider, Markov and Bertuzzi don't come back.

He needs to realize that nothing changed from last year. Yes, he had a great season, but he's still old, and he's still just as injury-prone as he was one year ago. He's an even bigger risk this time because he's a year older. If he wants money, then give him a $1M base salary and something like $4M in bonuses. If we reach the finals with Hasek in net, I'd be happy to pay him whatever he wants. But if he breaks down 5 games into the season...well, we're screwed

this is exactly what I was talking about. ^ ^ ^