Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted September 25, 2007 "Aaron one punch and he's Downey I think he either won, or tied. MrSandMan, your blind if you actually think Downey got beat down, he landed better punches then Roy, got the last punch, and the take down. Sign him up Kenny! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted September 25, 2007 I'll only ask this one more time and then leave it. Downey supporters: Would you at least agree (after watching his fights) that he has 1 move? The old "You swing first." Every player on our team last year had only 1 move also. The duck and cover. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted September 25, 2007 Every player on our team last year had only 1 move also. The duck and cover. LOL! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Turretin 0 Report post Posted September 25, 2007 yes in most fights that i have seen, he does have them swing first. but it doesn't matter does it? The reason that it might matter is that in some of his more recent fights, it look'd like the opposing fighters caught on to this. When that happened, his fights turned into a real lame hugging contest, because he can't start the fight. Every player on our team last year had only 1 move also. The duck and cover. priceless. That is funny bro. If we just want a fighter to call up, we should get some bruiser to stick in GR, and then call him up to play 2 minutes during certain games. Isn't that what a number of Eastern Conference teams do? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sticknmove 0 Report post Posted September 25, 2007 you are correct about his one move, but there is a good reason why and that is because the guys he fights usually have a arm reach advantage and if the guy with less reach swings first, well this happens video will explain it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lou_Siffer 1 Report post Posted September 25, 2007 I swear, what school of fighting did most of you go to? The one I went to says that when each guy lands roughly the same shots its a draw. That same school also says that when each guy lands equal shots, the guy who buckles the other guy's knees wins. That same school also says that takedowns are not decisive enough to win a decision. Here, Downey clearly buckles Roy's knees and then throws him down. Where I come from that's a 10-9 round. Roy knows he got his bell rung a bit there. Downey was no worse for wear. PS: His helmet flying off is specatular to watch but think about that, Roy drilled him in the helmet and the helmet too the brunt of the blow. Whereas Downey landed flush enough on the face to wobble Roy's knees. That's why Downey gets the decision. Vincanni, I addressed this to you because of your observation of Roy owning the middle of the fight. Do you mean the 3 lefts he delivered in quick succession? If you'll notice the 1st two lefts glance off Downey's upper back area. Those are not clean punches. The 3rd shot he adjusts and comes up under Downey's defense and then he pops off Downey's helmet. When he throws that punch though he left himself wide open for Downey to come over the top with the left that stunned Roy and buckled his knees. I would consider that entire episode to be the main portion of the fight and I don't think Roy owned it. I think it looked good on TV but glancing punches to the back do nothing. I agree, I think it was small edge Downey. I hold very little value for takedowns on their own, for instance i wouldnt give Bertuzzi a win over Phaneuf last playoffs since he didnt even land anything. He did that to get out of the fight, so no win. But in the case of two guys really going at it and one being slightly ahead based on punches, getting a takedown at the end in addition to that is enough for me to give him the edge rather than just calling it a draw. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MrSandMan Report post Posted September 25, 2007 Roy's knees didn't buckle, he was dodging punches. and succeeded. I just played this video for my girlfriend, before I told her my opinion. She's was rooting for Downey and afterwards, she said Downey got his ass kicked. However you want to look at it... Downey lost this one. Sorry if I don't have my Wings glasses on today. I just calling a spade, a spade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings_Dynasty 267 Report post Posted September 25, 2007 Very intelligent and classy! Why can't we have more Wing fans like you Then we wouldn't have anyone left to boo Fedorov everytime he touches the puck. Downey is NOT a Wing (he has a chance) but anyone can see that he did not get his ass whipped to the degree you are describing. He didn't get his ass whipped at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GordieSid&Ted Report post Posted September 26, 2007 Roy's knees didn't buckle, he was dodging punches. and succeeded. I just played this video for my girlfriend, before I told her my opinion. She's was rooting for Downey and afterwards, she said Downey got his ass kicked. However you want to look at it... Downey lost this one. Sorry if I don't have my Wings glasses on today. I just calling a spade, a spade. What's your point? That you and your girlfriend are both blind? Yeah, I dodge punches by bending at the knees. You dodge punches by ducking your head genius. Not by getting hit in the face and then bending your knees. Thank you for confirming that you have never been in a hockey fight and that you should feel honored that i'm even bothering to share any of my experience on this subject with you. PS: Share what i've taught you to your girlfriend. Think of it as 2 for 1. I'll educate the both of you and at no cost other than a little personal embarrassment on your part. I agree, I think it was small edge Downey. I hold very little value for takedowns on their own, for instance i wouldnt give Bertuzzi a win over Phaneuf last playoffs since he didnt even land anything. He did that to get out of the fight, so no win. But in the case of two guys really going at it and one being slightly ahead based on punches, getting a takedown at the end in addition to that is enough for me to give him the edge rather than just calling it a draw. Lou, you are one of the very few people on this forum who know something about fighting. The fact that you saw what I saw is all I need to know I called it right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skiing - Puck 0 Report post Posted September 26, 2007 I agree, I think it was small edge Downey. I hold very little value for takedowns on their own, for instance i wouldnt give Bertuzzi a win over Phaneuf last playoffs since he didnt even land anything. He did that to get out of the fight, so no win. But in the case of two guys really going at it and one being slightly ahead based on punches, getting a takedown at the end in addition to that is enough for me to give him the edge rather than just calling it a draw. The only time I reallly see the take down as an edge is in the sport of wrestling (real, not fake WWE crap) or if after the take down you go to town after they are on the ground. The hitting on the ground may win that fight it will also earn you a butt kicking like none other because it violates every bit of the code that players have. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sticknmove 0 Report post Posted September 26, 2007 If you know how to score a hockey fight it is Downey with a slight edge in this one. No can make all the sarcastic comments you want, attack me, whatever. I am just telling you that was a draw until the last bomb Downey landed which did in fact buckle the knees of Roy which then caused him to go to the ice. kthanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MrSandMan Report post Posted September 26, 2007 (edited) What's your point? That you and your girlfriend are both blind? Yeah, I dodge punches by bending at the knees. You dodge punches by ducking your head genius. Not by getting hit in the face and then bending your knees. Thank you for confirming that you have never been in a hockey fight and that you should feel honored that i'm even bothering to share any of my experience on this subject with you. ((This is where I play along)) Downey is the MAN! Knowbody could ever take this guy. He IS the Braveheart of NHL hockey Heavy Weights of ALL time! Downey shall be THE history for thousands of years to come! Roy was all bloody, falling down, buckled at the knees, and looked like he was hit by a Mack Truck. We all saw it! Downey is 12" and 95 ibs heavier and tore Roy apart with his pinky. After Downey tore Roy apart, he ripped his head off and skated around the rink 5 times like a mad man. This is just an example of what he's going to do to any other NHL heavy weight. Downey is coming MOFO's.. and he's bringing hell with him! Sicerely, LGW Homer Now go watch the video again son. Next time you watch it, maybe Downey will run to a phone booth and come out wearing his SuperMan uniform. Pullleeeesss!!!! Edited September 26, 2007 by MrSandMan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted September 26, 2007 Please STFU, you dont know what your talking about. Your sarcasm isnt funny, and your knowledge of fighting isnt very good. You think Downey got his ass kicked? Not even close, you think everyone on here who said he won the fight, thinks that he destroyed Roy, your an idiot Sincerely, give it rest already Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sticknmove 0 Report post Posted September 26, 2007 (edited) MrSandMan I find it funny that you are calling anyone a homer. You are taking a side in a argument for no other reason then to be a prick. downey got the edge in that tilt, no one is saying he never loses, he has lost a lot and I dont think that is a secret. But for you to crack on the only guy, yes the single player left in our lineup that will drop the mitts against any HW in the NHL to protect his teamates, spark the team, send a message, etc. is absolutely obnoxious. PS- here is a nice little quote of yours that now makes it clear why the Ducks beat us..... And you have the nerve to call other people homers? "It'd be sad if we resorted to the low, no talented, cheap shot type play like the Ducks had to use to win a cup. As a loyal Detroit Red Wing fan, I;d get no joy or enjoyment watching the wings win a cup this way. Cheap shots < talent." Edited September 26, 2007 by sticknmove Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MrSandMan Report post Posted September 27, 2007 (edited) MrSandMan I find it funny that you are calling anyone a homer. You are taking a side in a argument for no other reason then to be a prick. downey got the edge in that tilt, no one is saying he never loses, he has lost a lot and I dont think that is a secret. But for you to crack on the only guy, yes the single player left in our lineup that will drop the mitts against any HW in the NHL to protect his teamates, spark the team, send a message, etc. is absolutely obnoxious. PS- here is a nice little quote of yours that now makes it clear why the Ducks beat us..... And you have the nerve to call other people homers? "It'd be sad if we resorted to the low, no talented, cheap shot type play like the Ducks had to use to win a cup. As a loyal Detroit Red Wing fan, I;d get no joy or enjoyment watching the wings win a cup this way. Cheap shots < talent." That was a great quote by me. If you watched the series then you would have seen Nieds and Pronger gang up on Homer. Plus other low blow tactics the duck had to resort to win a cup. It's obvious the Wings were the more talented team in that series. But the game wasn't being played fairly. With that said, I don't want to see that type of poor sportsman ship. As a Wings fan, I'd get no enjoyment or sense of dominance if we had to win games like that. It's pathetic. I'm glad to see hockey fights, I don't care that Downey lost the fight... it was still fun to watch. It was fair and 1 on 1. Unless Downey can prove that he has as much talant on the ice than say.. any of our 4th liners, then sure! Sign him. Due to the black outs or Center Ice not playing many games, I haven't really been able see the kid play. So far, I haven't really 'heard' of anything that he done that deserves him a spot. Hartigan was more impressive from what I saw. And if you don't like my unbiased opinion, then just click that little iggy button and move on. I'm not any less of a Detroit Red Wings fan just because I call it like it is. Cheers Edited September 27, 2007 by MrSandMan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lou_Siffer 1 Report post Posted September 27, 2007 Lou, you are one of the very few people on this forum who know something about fighting. The fact that you saw what I saw is all I need to know I called it right. Thanks GST, the feelings mutual. I was actually thinking the same thing, the fact you saw it the same as me helped validate what i saw as well! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted September 27, 2007 (edited) Downey didn't actually win the fight. He took Roy down, but that doesn't mean he won. That said, I still want him on the Wings. For obvious reasons of course. Edited September 27, 2007 by Kp-Wings Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sticknmove 0 Report post Posted September 27, 2007 Whatever, you guys are right. f*** Downey, lets go with Ellis, he is what we need. F*cking morons. "That was a great quote by me. If you watched the series then you would have seen Nieds and Pronger gang up on Homer. Plus other low blow tactics the duck had to resort to win a cup." Ya, and by doing that Pronger their arguably #1 dman was then sitting out next game. Did we capitalize? NO. There was no wings domination in this series, it was a good tight series but at the end they were just to much. You act as though this series even went to game 7. IT DIDNT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MrSandMan Report post Posted September 27, 2007 Funny, the newbie is calling us morons. LMFAO! Go Wings! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted September 27, 2007 Newbie? Oh my, you never stop do you? Someones join date means nothing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sticknmove 0 Report post Posted September 27, 2007 Funny, the newbie is calling us morons. LMFAO! Go Wings! lol, ya newbie. Funny the ****** bag is calling me a newbie. You obviously dont know much about the game so resort to computer lingo in a sorry attempt to insult me. People like you make me laugh, especially when you try to talk about hockey, it really is comical. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Son of a Wing 1,644 Report post Posted September 28, 2007 Whatever, you guys are right. f*** Downey, lets go with Ellis, he is what we need. F*cking morons. Wow just chill out. You're giving him satisfaction by getting all mad don't you see that? All this over a 13-14th forward. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
