Rice 42 Report post Posted October 3, 2007 I just stumbled onto this Ansar Khan article. I remember seeing it when he first posted it, but it made me think about all of the Luongo hype last summer. Does anyone have any more information or hearsay about the whole offer sheet thing? How close was Luongo to becoming a Wing? I've heard stories saying he was all ready to move to Detroit and others saying there was no chance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DetroitIan Report post Posted October 3, 2007 God damn. I would still be drooling if we signed Loungo. Dom is awesome and all. But we all know Loungo will be awesome for several years to come. A Detroit Red Wings squad, with Loungo between the pipes, would simply be unstoppable. But, it was never to be. And luckily, we have a future hall of famer like Hasek for atleast one more season. But wow, that would have been soooooooo ungodly sweet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theman19 47 Report post Posted October 3, 2007 i'm not going to get into what might have been, or if it was right or wrong. After i say this, i'm also going not going to say if this would be right or wrong either. but if we get luongo for the money we offered. Goodbye pavel, and likely Z too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingMachine91 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2007 i'm not going to get into what might have been, or if it was right or wrong. After i say this, i'm also going not going to say if this would be right or wrong either. but if we get luongo for the money we offered. Goodbye pavel, and likely Z too. yeah ur right, datsyuk would of been gone. but then again, wernt there rumors that the wings were going after luongo but the panthers wanted datsyuk in the trade, and the wings said no. cause i remember the datsyuk for luongo rumors after we lost the series against edmonton Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Izzy24 44 Report post Posted October 3, 2007 I've wondered how well Luongo would have done in Detroit considering he wouldn't face that many shots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted October 3, 2007 Luongo would have been a monster on this team. But I can't imagine we were ever truly close to nabbing him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OsGOD 3 Report post Posted October 3, 2007 Not close enough... THANK GOD! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hank 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2007 yeah ur right, datsyuk would of been gone. but then again, wernt there rumors that the wings were going after luongo but the panthers wanted datsyuk in the trade, and the wings said no. cause i remember the datsyuk for luongo rumors after we lost the series against edmonton I remember hearing that too. I can't help but laugh at what Florida DID end up getting for Luongo. How do you go from "We want Pavel" to "We'll take a 5th defenseman and a broken Bertuzzi (who's about to become a UFA)"? Hahahaha! Keenan's so stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted October 3, 2007 I remember hearing that too. I can't help but laugh at what Florida DID end up getting for Luongo. How do you go from "We want Pavel" to "We'll take a 5th defenseman and a broken Bertuzzi (who's about to become a UFA)"? Hahahaha! Keenan's so stupid. I like Luongo and everything, but I'm glad we didn't get him. No matter how good the goalie is, it doesn't make sense to get rid of your best players. THen we'd be just like every other crappy team with a good goalie. I love all the Wings, but Datsyuk and Zetterberg are the glue. Goalies are a nice addition, but some coaches seem to think that a good goalie somehow makes you a winning team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JayUp88 1 Report post Posted October 3, 2007 I'm glad that never happened. i wouldn't have wanted to see dats go Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OsGOD 3 Report post Posted October 3, 2007 Yeah no kidding... scoring is going to be the end all winning the cup. We had awesome goaltending last year and no cup... cause we couldn't score. what good is a good goalie without a supporting cast? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt 1,049 Report post Posted October 3, 2007 Oh, don't tease me again ARice... I do remember the drawn out debates on this forum leading up to his trade to Vancouver prior to the draft last year and all of the talk that he wasn't a "proven playoff goaltender" and that's why we shouldn't trade for him, etc., etc., etc... Ugh. Unbelievable. Sorry, but even today I'd take Luongo over Datsyuk in a heartbeat. Smallish forwards with scoring talent aren't as hard to come by as a rock-solid franchise goaltender that would've cemented a position in this town for the next 10 years -- and is *younger* than Datsyuk. Players like Datsyuk, though not of his unique ability but scoring level, can be replenished in certain degrees via free agency. Players like Luongo -- except for once-in-the-blue-moon scenarios like Florida -- hardly ever become available. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted October 3, 2007 Oh, don't tease me again ARice... I do remember the drawn out debates on this forum leading up to his trade to Vancouver prior to the draft last year and all of the talk that he wasn't a "proven playoff goaltender" and that's why we shouldn't trade for him, etc., etc., etc... Ugh. Unbelievable. Sorry, but even today I'd take Luongo over Datsyuk in a heartbeat. Smallish forwards with scoring talent aren't as hard to come by as a rock-solid franchise goaltender that would've cemented a position in this town for the next 10 years -- and is *younger* than Datsyuk. Players like Datsyuk, though not of his unique ability but scoring level, can be replenished in certain degrees via free agency. Players like Luongo -- except for once-in-the-blue-moon scenarios like Florida -- hardly ever become available. QFT I love Dats, but when you have the chance to nab a player like Luongo, you do what it takes to make it work. While Dats is an incredible talent, as you said, he can be replenished in certain degrees via free agency. Here's hoping Jimmy can take that step and be somewhat in the same ballpark...........again, Here's hoping! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GordieSid&Ted Report post Posted October 3, 2007 I like Luongo and everything, but I'm glad we didn't get him. No matter how good the goalie is, it doesn't make sense to get rid of your best players. THen we'd be just like every other crappy team with a good goalie. I love all the Wings, but Datsyuk and Zetterberg are the glue. Goalies are a nice addition, but some coaches seem to think that a good goalie somehow makes you a winning team. Wasn't Luongo in the running for MVP of the league last year? I remember people saying he wouldn't be so great in Vancouver because he wouldn't face as many shots? WRONG I remember people saying he's not so great, he's never one a playoff game, he might not have what it takes. WRONG Now people are still saying he wouldn't be that great on the Wings because he wouldn't face as many shots or WTF ever. WRONG, WRONG, WRONG The guy is probably the best goalie in the league given his ability, age, potential. Seriously, how long can Brodeur be the best of the best? Luongo is something ridiculous and he'd look pretty damn good in Detroit. Me thinks the thinly veiled slaps he takes from people around here are mostly from the uneducated or those that simply can't come to grips with us not getting him so they say stuff claiming they don't want or need him to ease their own feelings of disappointment or whatever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerm8352 3 Report post Posted October 3, 2007 I like Luongo and everything, but I'm glad we didn't get him. No matter how good the goalie is, it doesn't make sense to get rid of your best players. THen we'd be just like every other crappy team with a good goalie. I love all the Wings, but Datsyuk and Zetterberg are the glue. Goalies are a nice addition, but some coaches seem to think that a good goalie somehow makes you a winning team. Vigneault thought that and it worked! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted October 3, 2007 Oh, don't tease me again ARice... I do remember the drawn out debates on this forum leading up to his trade to Vancouver prior to the draft last year and all of the talk that he wasn't a "proven playoff goaltender" and that's why we shouldn't trade for him, etc., etc., etc... Ugh. Unbelievable. Sorry, but even today I'd take Luongo over Datsyuk in a heartbeat. Smallish forwards with scoring talent aren't as hard to come by as a rock-solid franchise goaltender that would've cemented a position in this town for the next 10 years -- and is *younger* than Datsyuk. Players like Datsyuk, though not of his unique ability but scoring level, can be replenished in certain degrees via free agency. Players like Luongo -- except for once-in-the-blue-moon scenarios like Florida -- hardly ever become available. I agree. If it were Luongo for Dats straight up, I'd absolutely want that trade, for all the reasons you mention. I'd miss watching Dats fake goalie's out of their jockstraps, but it'd still be worth it. At the time my impression was that Detroit would have to give up half the team. But seeing what Florida ultimately took for him, maybe not. It's still amazing to me that Detroit won three cups with the goalie carousel we have going. Imagine if they had a true franchise goaltender like Brodeur, Roy, or Luongo. To have that major piece of the puzzle finally locked up would be HUGE. That's why I think Holland and company are silently praying that Jimmy Howard will be the guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OsGOD 3 Report post Posted October 3, 2007 I agree. If it were Luongo for Dats straight up, I'd absolutely want that trade, for all the reasons you mention. I'd miss watching Dats fake goalie's out of their jockstraps, but it'd still be worth it. At the time my impression was that Detroit would have to give up half the team. But seeing what Florida ultimately took for him, maybe not. It's still amazing to me that Detroit won three cups with the goalie carousel we have going. Imagine if they had a true franchise goaltender like Brodeur, Roy, or Luongo. To have that major piece of the puzzle finally locked up would be HUGE. That's why I think Holland and company are silently praying that Jimmy Howard will be the guy. Me too whether he is great or sucks i would just like a constant back there. if JFH is the one than cool beans... just get us some stability back there, i am sick of wondering who's next? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hank 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2007 (edited) Oh, don't tease me again ARice... I do remember the drawn out debates on this forum leading up to his trade to Vancouver prior to the draft last year and all of the talk that he wasn't a "proven playoff goaltender" and that's why we shouldn't trade for him, etc., etc., etc... Ugh. Unbelievable. Sorry, but even today I'd take Luongo over Datsyuk in a heartbeat. Smallish forwards with scoring talent aren't as hard to come by as a rock-solid franchise goaltender that would've cemented a position in this town for the next 10 years -- and is *younger* than Datsyuk. Players like Datsyuk, though not of his unique ability but scoring level, can be replenished in certain degrees via free agency. Players like Luongo -- except for once-in-the-blue-moon scenarios like Florida -- hardly ever become available. Chalk me up as another person that would have dealt, and would still deal Datsyuk for Luongo. I have nothing against Dats but goaltending will win you more Cups than one dynamic scorer. And I think with our depth, we would have found a way to still score enough goals to win the Cup or get to the conference finals. I'm a HUGE Crosby fan but I thought Luongo deserved to win the Hart trophy. That guys has the ability to win you games all on his own. He beat Dallas pretty much on his own. Imagine what he would do with the Wings with Lidstrom, Rafalski, Krownall and Chelios in front of him? And we have more scoring depth than Vancouver. Hasek was awesome for us last spring but I can't help but think that Luongo would have made the saves that Hasek's snow-angels let in. Edited October 3, 2007 by Hank Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puckloo39 5,686 Report post Posted October 3, 2007 I would have supported Luongo in Detroit wholeheartedly, if the money had been there. It would be good for the team to have a longer-term goaltender who is as elite as Dom, but who would also play for the money he is willing to accept. That wouldn't be Luongo, or anyone else who comes close to Dom's level of skill and experience. We can criticize and second-guess Hasek and Babcock all we want, but fact is the Wings got as far as they did in the playoffs - as in, out of the first round for the first time since 2002 - was with Hasek in the nets. JMO, but Hasek wasn't the reason the Wings lost, just the opposite. What we needed was offense (and two or three fewer questionable goals against) and we'd be singing a different song. Maybe. I still would agree that it would be nice to have a franchise goalie. Every team wants that. Buffalo has it. But they are about it, I think. Stars, maybe, but they trust Turco even less than some of you all trust Dom and Ozzie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Curban915 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2007 I would have made the trade in a second. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted October 3, 2007 I'm a HUGE Crosby fan but I thought Luongo deserved to win the Hart trophy. That guys has the ability to win you games all on his own. He beat Dallas pretty much on his own. Imagine what he would do with the Wings with Lidstrom, Rafalski, Krownall and Chelios in front of him? And we have more scoring depth than Vancouver. Exactly. Like I said, he would have been insane here. Just insane. *sigh* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sergei Fedorov91 24 Report post Posted October 3, 2007 I've wondered how well Luongo would have done in Detroit considering he wouldn't face that many shots. Hopefully better than what Cujo turned out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted October 3, 2007 Hopefully better than what Cujo turned out. No comparison. Luongo's arguably the best goalie in the world right now and he isn't even his prime. When we got Cujo...well, the same couldn't really be said of him at that point in time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted October 3, 2007 I love Datsyuk, but I would also make that trade like so many other posters have suggested. We'd finally have a young goalie that could be here for a long time, and we all know that goaltending is the most important thing in hockey. I think Florida would have been much more willing to make that trade than what they wound up doing by trading for Bertuzzi. I still can't believe that the Panthers traded Luongo for Bert. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hank 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2007 I love Datsyuk, but I would also make that trade like so many other posters have suggested. We'd finally have a young goalie that could be here for a long time, and we all know that goaltending is the most important thing in hockey. I think Florida would have been much more willing to make that trade than what they wound up doing by trading for Bertuzzi. I still can't believe that the Panthers traded Luongo for Bert. Neither can I. But then I forgot the most important ingredient in that entire trade - Keenan. NEVER underestimate this mans stupidity. He basically kicked him out of town with how he treated him in contract negotiations and then he deals him for nobody. If I were a Flames fan I'd be shaking in fear at the thought Keenan getting his foot in the GM door. I'm so glad Devellano didn't think Iron Mikey was a good fit here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites