Why The Wings Lost to Nashville

[Echolalia 2,961]

this thread was made more because the gdt for the game was getting really messy, really fast. There was a lot of innapropriate arguing, especially around Hasek, and this is place to discuss it civilly (ie debate). this isn't a GDT, this isn't a Hasek vs Osgood thread, this is a "why the wings lost thread"

First of all, Hasek did not play a bad game last night. 3 goals were let in on 29 shots; two on the power play. Despite popular belief (which I have no idea why is popular belief), not all of Nashville's goals were scored off rebounds. Only one was scored off a rebound, and it was from a slapshot from the point, a shot that usually results in a rebound of some sort, especially when there are people in front of the net. Hasek made the initial save, and the defensmen failed to clear the puck from in front of the net, thus resulting in a goal. The other two goals were as I've said before, one-timers from Pred forwards wide open within 15 feet of Dom. Both shots were very good shots that nobody can save without a good amount of luck. Both of these goals I also blame on the defensmen. you dont even leave a forward wide open in front of the net.

Why the wings lost was because of a plethora of reasons. First of all, we didn't capitalize on our endless powerplay oppurtunities, including a couple 5 on 3s. We were weak shorthanded, with 2/3s of Nashville's goals resulting from powerplays. We were outhustled in every way. Every way. The refs obviously didn't help, but the calls went both ways, and only one team saw the opportunity.

Keep it civil, kids.

[SylenT 0]

this thread was made more because the gdt for the game was getting really messy, really fast. There was a lot of innapropriate arguing, especially around Hasek, and this is place to discuss it civilly (ie debate). this isn't a GDT, this isn't a Hasek vs Osgood thread, this is a "why the wings lost thread"

First of all, Hasek did not play a bad game last night. 3 goals were let in on 29 shots; two on the power play. Despite popular belief (which I have no idea why is popular belief), not all of Nashville's goals were scored off rebounds. Only one was scored off a rebound, and it was from a slapshot from the point, a shot that usually results in a rebound of some sort, especially when there are people in front of the net. Hasek made the initial save, and the defensmen failed to clear the puck from in front of the net, thus resulting in a goal. The other two goals were as I've said before, one-timers from Pred forwards wide open within 15 feet of Dom. Both shots were very good shots that nobody can save without a good amount of luck. Both of these goals I also blame on the defensmen. you dont even leave a forward wide open in front of the net.

Why the wings lost was because of a plethora of reasons. First of all, we didn't capitalize on our endless powerplay oppurtunities, including a couple 5 on 3s. We were weak shorthanded, with 2/3s of Nashville's goals resulting from powerplays. We were outhustled in every way. Every way. The refs obviously didn't help, but the calls went both ways, and only one team saw the opportunity.

Keep it civil, kids.

^Agree

[YoungGuns1340 1]

So youre creating an entirely new thread just to step up on your soapbox?

[Superman54 91]

I found that it was a lazy game by the Wings. They did not show any intensity and just looked really lazy out there. Powerplay did not work for them either and with the # of chances they had, you could see they were just not into it.

[FinRedWing 172]

We were outhustled in every way.

That's the worst way to lose,IMO.

Has it happened already too often this season?

[Superman54 91]

So youre creating an entirely new thread just to step up on your soapbox?

Why do so many people freak out about the threads being placed, if you don not like it then do not go to it, others want to discuss. No big deal so lets all not make it one.

[ProudestMonkey 0]

Only one goal by Nashville was scored on the PP...

I just got back from the game and I must say that the refs were TERRIBLE for both teams. They made some absolutely ridiculous calls out there tonight.

[Grittzkey 1]

CIVIL@@@@ wdf, its the internet, we are allowed to act like E-THUGS if we want to.. hahajk, sorry =P

But, i do think Hasek played a weak game. could of played alot better.

Franzen other than his goal was pretty non existant. along with almost every other forward. Im kinda surprised that we kept it as close as we did, while letting in the amount of shots that we did, because even ZDH didnt play up to par.

Anyway. The refs were freaking HORRID, they called anything and everything no matter how minor it was, there comes a time where you just gotta let the guys play. The game wasnt very fun to watch either, so i flipped between that and the Colts/Falcons game and The First 48 on A&E.

Ellis got LAMBASTED by Tootoo and i nearly pooped in my draws the way Ellis was worrying if his head will still there. Downey didnt do much "hitting whise" and never really put Jordin in check either. so he failed at his job tonight.

I expect alot better played game by the wings next game and i hope we dont end up with these same refs next game.

[Mikeal 60]

I found that it was a lazy game by the Wings. They did not show any intensity and just looked really lazy out there. Powerplay did not work for them either and with the # of chances they had, you could see they were just not into it.

We were slow, but I wouldn't say lazy. Just seemed like the pace was off what we have come to expect day in and day out. We had some good corner battles. I think the amount of penalties called really hurt the game. People were starting to seem overly careful trying not to get into trouble.

[Echolalia 2,961]

So youre creating an entirely new thread just to step up on your soapbox?

rrom original post: "Keep it civil, kids"

no, I created this thread because alot of people were arguing this subject in the GDT, and they were mixed pretty well with random GDT appropriate threads, essentially creating a negative environment to debate anything. This was also not appropriate to put in the "hasek vs osgood" thread, as i clearly stated in my first post.

[Hito 0]

The reffing was brutal in that game, but it went both ways. The wings were on their heels a lot tonight in 5 on 5 play. Maybe they were tired after having the puck all night lsat night, but whatever the reason, they didn't bring the same intensity and hustle that the Preds did. Whatever the reason, the better team on the ice got the W tonight.

[Barrie 900]

Even though Hasek is struggling, we only scored twice, that's why we lost. I don't care who's in net, you can't expect to win if you only score 2 goals.

[OsGOD 3]

Simple answer... they scored more we scored less. Goalies, skaters or what doesn't matter now

OZZIES in da next game

[al48 1]

this thread was made more because the gdt for the game was getting really messy, really fast. There was a lot of innapropriate arguing, especially around Hasek, and this is place to discuss it civilly (ie debate). this isn't a GDT, this isn't a Hasek vs Osgood thread, this is a "why the wings lost thread"

First of all, Hasek did not play a bad game last night. 3 goals were let in on 29 shots; two on the power play. Despite popular belief (which I have no idea why is popular belief), not all of Nashville's goals were scored off rebounds. Only one was scored off a rebound, and it was from a slapshot from the point, a shot that usually results in a rebound of some sort, especially when there are people in front of the net. Hasek made the initial save, and the defensmen failed to clear the puck from in front of the net, thus resulting in a goal. The other two goals were as I've said before, one-timers from Pred forwards wide open within 15 feet of Dom. Both shots were very good shots that nobody can save without a good amount of luck. Both of these goals I also blame on the defensmen. you dont even leave a forward wide open in front of the net.

Why the wings lost was because of a plethora of reasons. First of all, we didn't capitalize on our endless powerplay oppurtunities, including a couple 5 on 3s. We were weak shorthanded, with 2/3s of Nashville's goals resulting from powerplays. We were outhustled in every way. Every way. The refs obviously didn't help, but the calls went both ways, and only one team saw the opportunity.

Keep it civil, kids.

It's very easy to not blame a goalie for things a defenseman should have prevented. But great goalies, who are on top of their game, make the saves that bail their defensemen out of those situations. It goes both ways.

Edited November 23, 2007 by al48

[gcom007 1,465]

I'm not trying to harp on Hasek but you can't run from the realities either. Here's the big one for me and it's been the big one for me since last season. He doesn't seem to have the mental toughness anymore. We get a great goal from Z to take the lead with very little time left in the 2nd. Big momentum wave for us going into the 3rd. Hasek gives up a sloppy goal that I think it's fair to blame him on. He went down too early, got out of position and gave up a huge rebound. It happens. I get that. Osgood will give up plenty of those down the stretch. It's not about that. It's that it seems like Dom can't seem to a find a way to come up with those big saves at the right times. All the momentum went back to Nashville then and they took the lead early in the 3rd on another mildly questionable goal. You've got to give your team the ability to work the momentum. Hasek diidn't. That's a big part of the loss as well far moreso than any stats show.