vangvace 12 Report post Posted January 11, 2008 My guess is Z 7yrs for 6.7 Million....if Z pushes the issue then he'll get 7 to 7.5. He won't and shouldn't make more than the best defensemen in the league makes. We have asked him his last two contracts to take less than market value. I know Z is the future and an amazing player but as long as Lids is on the team and still playing like the best in the league he should be our highest paid player. wow... that's lowballing. But then again with the cap going up I'm considering 7.5 the extreme hometown discount, but more likely closer to 8. Especially once salary inflation and next years expected cap increase. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
imisssergei 0 Report post Posted January 11, 2008 Ovie at $9.54 for 13 years? BARGAIN!!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wingswillwincup Report post Posted January 11, 2008 wow... that's lowballing. But then again with the cap going up I'm considering 7.5 the extreme hometown discount, but more likely closer to 8. Especially once salary inflation and next years expected cap increase. i think the fact that lidstrom got 7.45 helps us cause hes our best player so zetterberg has to get less , what id like to see is 7 yrs at 49 mill , i think thats more then fair Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wingswillwincup Report post Posted January 11, 2008 Ovie at $9.54 for 13 years? BARGAIN!!!!!!!! sure Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Izzy24 44 Report post Posted January 11, 2008 What's to stop Chris Chelios from signing a 13 year contract? Get it done, Kenny! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shannyfan1414 0 Report post Posted January 11, 2008 AO is the man and i guess that this contract just proved it. Don't know why any team would want to commit to a single player for that long. It seems like a risk to me if he were to get injured. ON top of it, if he does get to a point that he is just unhappy in DC, how do you trade a guy with a 13 year deal in place? Congrats to him and enjoy spending that money AO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted January 11, 2008 Wow, $124m. We all know where to go if we need a loan. I can't say I'm surprised though. Ovechkin's a gun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Booster313 138 Report post Posted January 11, 2008 13 years is to long. If I was a NHL player, I wouldn't sign for anymore than 5 years. If I were an NHL player I would take any stupid contract the team would be willing to pay me. Worst case senario, the Caps continue to suck, AO has a fall out with the owner and demands to be traded, the caps are forced to pay part of his ridiclous contract to unload him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zata40 3 Report post Posted January 11, 2008 wow thats a looooong time!!! It's good to see great players staying on one team their whole carers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Booster313 138 Report post Posted January 11, 2008 wow... that's lowballing. But then again with the cap going up I'm considering 7.5 the extreme hometown discount, but more likely closer to 8. Especially once salary inflation and next years expected cap increase. I'm not saying he's not worth it but what kind of message does that send to Lids and Dats if Z gets more money? To me they are all equally important, actually Lids if probably the most important of the three. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jeremy88 Report post Posted January 11, 2008 Lids already signed a contract for 2 more years. Dats doesn't need to be resigned for another 5 or 6 years. Z is the guy who can take advantage of this. By the time we have to deal with Datsyuk, if Lids is still around, he most likely won't ask for the maximum, and the max team salary cap should be higher Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CAredwingsfan91 28 Report post Posted January 11, 2008 I'm not a fan of this new long term deals that this whole 10, 12, 13, 15 year deals are just plain stupid and it doesn't make any summer free agencys exciting for me to look forward too. 'Ish needs to stop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flip-check 6 Report post Posted January 11, 2008 Great for the Caps, bad for AO. It'll be a while before the Caps can help him shine out there and go anywhere. Here's to Ovie cuphunting in 13 years! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akustyk 84 Report post Posted January 11, 2008 What's to stop Chris Chelios from signing a 13 year contract? he has one. it's called retirement pension :hockeysmile: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Offsides 21 Report post Posted January 11, 2008 Am I the only person who thinks this is sort of dumb? Do people never learn their lesson? Does AO have any motivation to ever really play hard again? Mind you I didn't read all the terms of the contract or the rest of this thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A.T.Hun 0 Report post Posted January 11, 2008 ovechkin negotiated this deal himself , guess its more money in his pocket... no commission for an agent to give out hahahah , i guess he figured if im gonna keep playing on an awful team then i might as well get the big bucks , but this is not good for the nhl cause the salaries will go even higher Remember that this is not the old days. There is still a salary cap. That cap is still tied to league revenues. Any one player can still "only" make a certain percentage of the team's overall cap. The only way that salaries will continue to go higher under the current CBA is if revenues continue to climb. I'm sure that there will be high-pitched whining from "small market" teams who say that they will struggle to hit the salary floor. My response is that they got the cost-certainty that they were looking for. What they didn't cone to grips with is that if your organization is run my morons, it won't matter how much cost-certainty you have. Your team will still suck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted January 11, 2008 I'm not saying he's not worth it but what kind of message does that send to Lids and Dats if Z gets more money? To me they are all equally important, actually Lids if probably the most important of the three. Right now Zetterberg makes $4 million less than Datsyuk and almost 5 million less than Lidstrom. He's still near the top of the league right now in scoring, despite missing games. He deserves a hefty raise considering he's one of the biggest bargains in the NHL right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OsGOD 3 Report post Posted January 11, 2008 (edited) Am I the only person who thinks this is sort of dumb? Do people never learn their lesson? Does AO have any motivation to ever really play hard again? Mind you I didn't read all the terms of the contract or the rest of this thread. Nope... silly humans... long contracts only produce Yashins! Not to mention he just kissed all possibilites of ever lifting a cup goodbye... He has GOT to happy with this deal. Mo Money... No Cup Edited January 11, 2008 by OsGOD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IceMunkee 15 Report post Posted January 11, 2008 I don't understand why AO would take that deal. When you take that much money it limits your team's ability to build around you. Does he not want to win the SC? I also don't get how he can make more money then Crosby? As far as Z goes, I don't see how he can ask for more the Daytsuk and Lids? Him and Dats are comparible and Lids is more important to the team. If he wants more he will leave the team I am sure. If he really cares about being succesful he will get probably what Lids gets... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egroen 384 Report post Posted January 11, 2008 If I was a NHL player, I wouldn't sign for anymore than 5 years. In one year you could be out of the game with an injury. You'd be pretty stupid not to guarantee yourself an income as long as you can. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingslogo19 281 Report post Posted January 11, 2008 I don't understand why AO would take that deal. When you take that much money it limits your team's ability to build around you. Does he not want to win the SC? I also don't get how he can make more money then Crosby? As far as Z goes, I don't see how he can ask for more the Daytsuk and Lids? Him and Dats are comparible and Lids is more important to the team. If he wants more he will leave the team I am sure. If he really cares about being succesful he will get probably what Lids gets... Because Crosby took less money so that the team would have money to get players to win the cup Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IceMunkee 15 Report post Posted January 11, 2008 If I were an NHL player I would take any stupid contract the team would be willing to pay me. Worst case senario, the Caps continue to suck, AO has a fall out with the owner and demands to be traded, the caps are forced to pay part of his ridiclous contract to unload him. If I were an NHL player I would be more concerned with lifting the Cup the lining my already deep pockets. It is not like we are talking like in real life where you have the choice to make $20 with a crappy company or $10 with a great one, that $10 raise makes a huge differance in our "normal" life. Instead of taking almost $10 mil, take $7-$8 mil and give the organization some room to build the team. That is a long time for the Caps never to raise a cup. What a beautiful career wasted on mediocre seasons.... Because Crosby took less money so that the team would have money to get players to win the cup Exactly the point I was trying to make. No one in the league should make more then Crosby! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingslogo19 281 Report post Posted January 11, 2008 If I were an NHL player I would be more concerned with lifting the Cup the lining my already deep pockets. It is not like we are talking like in real life where you have the choice to make $20 with a crappy company or $10 with a great one, that $10 raise makes a huge differance in our "normal" life. Instead of taking almost $10 mil, take $7-$8 mil and give the organization some room to build the team. That is a long time for the Caps never to raise a cup. What a beautiful career wasted on mediocre seasons.... Exactly the point I was trying to make. No one in the league should make more then Crosby! AO also saved money too, because he represented himself, as he fired his agent a bit ago... But AO really should of taken less, because the Caps aren't going to win a cup in those 13 years Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vangvace 12 Report post Posted January 11, 2008 I'm not saying he's not worth it but what kind of message does that send to Lids and Dats if Z gets more money? To me they are all equally important, actually Lids if probably the most important of the three. And what kind of message does it send to Z? Dats is locked up for 3-5 more years and was right around market value when he was signed. Lids is nearing the end of his career and just signed a two year extension. "Well Z, you may be the future capt. and you're leading the team in points but we want you to take a deal that is below market value so we don't hurt other players feelings." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GordieSid&Ted Report post Posted January 11, 2008 I get what you all are saying, but Zetterberg and Ovechkin are pretty close in my opinion, an argument could be made if Zetterberg wanted that kind of money. Since he said he'd take a Hockeytown discount I guess it doesn't matter. Zetterberg's stats on top, Ovechkin's below. Umm..no, not really. You're taking a snapshot of 1 season. The Caps didn't give Alex a 13 year deal because of what he's doing this year alone. Major differences 1. AO is 22 years old, Z is 27 years old 2. AO was 12th in scoring last year, Z was 53rd 3. AO was 3rd in scoring 2 years ago, Z was 20th Past 2 1/2 seasons Goals AO= 130 Z= 99 Points AO= 250 Z=209 Z is probably one of the best all around players in the league right now. Of course we're a little biased because we're Wings fans as there are other great all-around players in the league. But AO is probably the most explosive, most dynamic player in the world. Some people would never go against a Wing and would claim they would take Z over AO every single time. But those people are just being silly. AO, from an offensive standpoint, putting pucks in the net, nobody in the league is more prolific than him the past 2 1/2 seasons. If you need a goal, you will get it from AO. Let us not forget that he's done all this in Washington. What would he do with Joe Thornton as his center or Pav or more talent around him? Z is unbelievable but AO is downright sick. And no, he won't get 9.5 million. He won't even ask for 9.5 million. You can't just compare raw stats from this season IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
