Forsberg again...

[Reds4Life 51]

right, like bertuzzi was.

You cannot compare those two players. Foppa is world class player, Bertuzzi is p...y. And I am sure he would not come back to make money or embarass himself. He would be great addition to any team in the league. Why not sign him for playoffs? You just cannot do wrong if you sign him.

[Opie 308]

I will always be skeptical of a Forsberg deal, I just cannot trust he will be healthy.

But I guess if Holland and Co. think it is worth it, how can I argue.

BUT IF he is healthy man what a weapon to have, especially if the Ducks get Selanne back any time soon. That team will turn it around, barring a major set back to Teemu.

[Matt 1,049]

I say sign him. There's almost no risk since the Wings would be signing him instead of giving up assets for him. If he's reasonably healthy, there's a chance he can dominate games in the post-season like he has in the past. At the very least, he's going to be productive and he has a ton of playoff experience. The best part of having Forsberg would be the ability to re-unite Datsyuk and Zetterberg. If he ends up getting hurt, the Wings are out nothing but money and they go with what they've got up front...which is what a lot of people want to do anyway.

I'd sign Forsberg and trade for a physical defenseman.

How's this for a top-six?

Datsyuk-Zetterberg-Holmstrom

Cleary-Forsberg-Filppula/Hudler

QFT.

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

we don't need him.

Gimme Sundin, if we must have another Swede, but no Petey, please.

Explain to me why we don't need Foresberg, but need Sundin.

[puckloo39 5,686]

Explain to me why we don't need Foresberg, but need Sundin.

I don't think we need either one of them, Mac. I said, if we simply must have another Swede, I would prefer Sundin.

Petey can't even skate for more than 2 minutes without saying his ankle hurts,and he can't play. Sorry, but I can see another Hatcher or Bertuzzi, fragile-type player there. And he will want too much money. betcha.

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

I don't think we need either one of them, Mac. I said, if we simply must have another Swede, I would prefer Sundin.

Petey can't even skate for more than 2 minutes without saying his ankle hurts,and he can't play. Sorry, but I can see another Hatcher or Bertuzzi, fragile-type player there. And he will want too much money. betcha.

We need to add to the core of this team with the cap space we have available in order to be fully prepared for the playoffs. I know alot of people here think we should stand firm with what we have, and I find that to be ridiculous especially after what happened to our defense last year after the deadline. If you have the chance to add a guy like Foresberg that will cost your team nothing aside from money (which by the way, the Wings have *plenty* of) you do it. I doubt Foresberg is going to come back unless he truly believe he's going to be able to make it through the entire Cup run and that's the best you can hope for.

Like ARice said, add Foresberg and a physical Dman and that's the most terrifying team come April.

[Echolalia 2,961]

I personally see him going to Ottawa

[Opie 308]

With Heatley out I was thinking the same thing, they have about 3 mil to offer him but that puts them up against the cap.

But they have had a sluggish middle of the season after starting like a house of fire!

EDIT: I am a dumbass!

Edited January 15, 2008 by Opie

[gcom007 1,465]

This could get interesting. I could see him coming, but if he goes to someone like Ottawa, I could see that putting more pressure on the Wings to go after Sundin.

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

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QFT

People hated Chelios a hell of a lot more than anyone hates Foresberg right now for past reasons. On top of that he'll come without the Wings having to give up anything aside from money.

Exactly. Which is why I don't get that so many people are opposed to this.

First they don't want to add anybody because they don't want to have to give up picks or young talent. With Forsberg, the Wings don't have to. Now they don't want to add anybody because we don't need him? or because he was a big rival 5 to 10 years ago?

Why wouldn't the Wings want to spend available money to increase their chances at winning the Cup? Like him or not, a healthy Forsberg does that.

[Opie 308]

Exactly. Which is why I don't get that so many people are opposed to this.

First they don't want to add anybody because they don't want to have to give up picks or young talent. With Forsberg, the Wings don't have to. Now they don't want to add anybody because we don't need him? or because he was a big rival 5 to 10 years ago?

Why wouldn't the Wings want to spend available money to increase their chances at winning the Cup? Like him or not, a healthy Forsberg does that.

I for one would take almost all former Avs if they could help the team, Forsberg could if that big bad H word is true right now it is not a certain that he will be healthy, that is my one worry.

[thedisappearer 291]

I don't think we need either one of them, Mac. I said, if we simply must have another Swede, I would prefer Sundin.

Petey can't even skate for more than 2 minutes without saying his ankle hurts,and he can't play. Sorry, but I can see another Hatcher or Bertuzzi, fragile-type player there. And he will want too much money. betcha.

Nah, I'll take the Swede who has actually hoisted the Cup.

Even if his salary is more than Sundin's, we're not giving up anything to get him. A short term fix with no long term ramifications.

Of course, this is if Foppa is healthy enough to play, and I doubt he would come back unprepared. Bertuzzi's issues were in his head. Forsberg's are his ankle. World of difference.

[58Miles2Joe 12]

I read somewhere that Floppa was likely to sign only if he could get a long-term deal. No way Kenny goes for that. He put the kabosh on Bert for only a 2-yr deal. The only way Floppa lands in Detroit is if he agrees to some kind of time-reward incentive- laden contract (i.e. if we win cup he gets a 3 yr deal) AND he does it on the serious cheap (due to upcoming signings for Flipper, Cleary and Hank).

The way he talks, too, it basically sounds like he thinks he's going to pick and choose where he goes, when he goes and the terms of his going there.

Basically, ain't gonna happen in Detroit.

But if it did....schweet.

[hak 21]

i read an interview with forsberg in the newspaper today about this. he's got a go go from his doctor staff and told the newspaper that he will start skating in a week or so. he will start out with his team in SEL and see how it works out. he may play for tre kronor in upcoming LG Hockey Games at 4feb (part of the euro cup). Coach bengt ake has reserved a spot for him in the lineup.

"I haven't tried the foot on ice yet. My doctor thinks my foot is going to be 100% healed. So far everything is going according to the plans and in a week or so i will start skating. Then we'll see how it feels"

It's his last shot tho. if it doesent work this time he will hang em up for ever

-I'm crossing my fingers

edit: i meant i'm crossing my fingers for him to be fully healed (not for him to hang em up for ever)

edit2: thought i'd add some more quotes from him

– Ja, det behÃ¥ller jag för mig själv än sÃ¥ länge. Men jag är hoppfull. Jag vill spela hockey igen och jag vet vad som krävs om jag ska Ã¥ka över och möta världens bästa spelare. DÃ¥ mÃ¥ste jag vara hundra procent. Är jag inte det sÃ¥ blir det inget.

– En del tycker väl att man är en idiot som försöker igen efter alla skador, men jag tycker att jag har mycket mer att ge än vad jag visat de sista Ã¥ren. Därför känns det hÃ¥rt att bara lägga av och ge upp. Jag vill inte sluta utan att ha försökt allt.

-"I'm optimistic. I want to play hockey again and i know what demands of you to compete with the best players in the world. I have to be one hundred percent. If I'm not then I won't go."

"I guess some people think of me as an idiot who just keep on trying after all the injuries and set backs. But i think i still have much more to give than i have showed for the last couple of years. That's why it feels very tough to just quit. I don't want to quit without have tried everything"

I know my english is bad sorry all I wish it were better

Edited January 15, 2008 by hak

[Sepster 0]

In terms of this season and playoffs, I like Forsberg better than Sundin. The Loafs will ask a fortune for Sundin and there's no way Kenny does that. Forsberg for only money at this point is a much more realistic situation.

HOWEVER, IF Forsberg really is insisting on a long-term deal, obviously one that would take him past this season, then NO DEAL!

The chances of him staying healthy and completing ths contract are practically non-existent. So in that case you'd be tying up money that needs to be used for Zetterberg, Cleary and Filppula. Remember, all contracts for players over 35 yrs old are guaranteed AND count agaisnt the cap. I've already started praying tha Draper, Maltby and Osgood stay healthy and productive for the next three years, I don't need to start worrying about Forsberg with his health issues.

[liloz 0]

wow that would be awesome, but I think its highly unlikely.

MCCARTY........THE FLINT GENERALS FOR GOD SAKE!! LETS GET HIM BACK!!

[probert 0]

I just am not sold on an injury prone rental. I want an enforcer. That I believe is what we need.

I agree I think he just wants to play with the highest bidder, I think he is just a pompass ass

[shannyfan1414 0]

I would be just fine in life if i never heard his name came up again.

Is his comeback still on, or has he been injured and forced to re-retire again?

[Guest jaytan]

I just am not sold on an injury prone rental. I want an enforcer. That I believe is what we need.

I agree with you, though I've finally come up with one good reason to approve of forsberg signing with the Wings: That highly increases the chance that he'll suffer his career-ending injury at Joe Louis in front of 20,000 cheering fans, and I'd get to see it live.

[OsGOD 3]

I would take Forsberg in a heart beat

[Guest jaytan]

You cannot compare those two players. Foppa is world class player, Bertuzzi is p...y. And I am sure he would not come back to make money or embarass himself. He would be great addition to any team in the league. Why not sign him for playoffs? You just cannot do wrong if you sign him.

Are you kidding me? You're trying to defend a "man" nicknamed Floppa - who was one of the dirtiest and cheapest players in the league when he still had the ability to skate and fought just one time in a 13-year career - by calling Todd Bertuzzi a *****? At least Bert still has a career! forsberg on the other hand is nothing but the butt of a really tired joke these days. He needs to stay down.

Edited January 16, 2008 by jaytan

[Guest jaytan]

I would take Forsberg in a heart beat

Me too.

I'd take him out back and lynch him.

[Reds4Life 51]

Forsberg is olympic winner, SC Champion, World Champion and you call him "one of the dirtiest and cheapest players in the league" what do you smoke man? He's HOF lock, he has so much playoff experience. He played for Colorado..so what?

Chelios played for Chicago so what?

Bertuzzi is poor player and person, he should be in jail, not playing the NHL.

[Guest jaytan]

A lot of guys played for Colorado. Most of them had some class. Most of them are also not getting major injuries every other week. forsberg is, was and always will be garbage. I don't care if he had talent half a decade ago.

[Turkey 0]

To say that Forsberg has always been garbage is an enormous stretch. He was an incredible dominating player in his prime. He is a proven champion and has persevered through injuries that would have long ago driven a lesser player to retirement. I admire him a great deal personally.

I don't know if he can, will, or even should come back but spewing bile about him is just silly.