2probert4 8 Report post Posted January 21, 2008 It makes me wonder if they would be more more inclined to get Hossa since he's likely the safer bet long-term. Atlanta has not fallen out of the playoff chase, who's to say that they will deal him ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puckloo39 5,686 Report post Posted January 21, 2008 Agreed. If I was in the Wings organization and had any say at all, I'd tell him to stay home for the All Star Game. there's precedent for that... and I hope they ask him to stay home, too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted January 21, 2008 Atlanta has not fallen out of the playoff chase, who's to say that they will deal him ? It depends. If theyre on the cusp and still cant get him re-signed, Im betting they deal him. I doubt management thinks they have a team that can go all the way. They could get a nice return for Hossa and could use that return to build that team into a true contender within 1-2 years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingslogo19 281 Report post Posted January 21, 2008 Oh boy. This is not good news for the Wings.. I really hope and im praying here that this is not a long term injury. I think Kenny maybe looking at another scoring player for deadline.. Get well Z, and FAST PLEASE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Donaldjr2448 43 Report post Posted January 21, 2008 Do you all think we could pool our money together and stemcell him a new back??? Or a least the muscles in the back, DAMNIT Something!!!! The main thing is that he is healthy for the playoffs!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Booster313 138 Report post Posted January 21, 2008 I hate to say it but my fear is that Z will turn out to be just like Forsberg...One of the greatest hockey players of our generation and possibly all time...but with nagging injuries. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted January 21, 2008 Hossa would be nice. If Cleary asks for too much, i.e 3.5M, I think itd be more likely that the Wings would trade for Hossa assuming they knew 1) if Hossa would be interested in re-signing with Detroit and 2) if they knew Hossas contract demands were within a doable range. I could see the Wings then letting Cleary walk and let somebody else sign him to a 3.5M deal and then using that extra cap space to sign Hossa to a big contract longer term. And yes, its doable assuming Detroit would probably trade Hudler plus extras for Hossa, and assuming the cap goes up about 6M in the next 2 years (its already projected to go up 4M this year) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,803 Report post Posted January 21, 2008 I hate to say it but my fear is that Z will turn out to be just like Forsberg...One of the greatest hockey players of our generation and possibly all time...but with nagging injuries. Too early to place that kind of jinx on him, but the injury bug is beginning to get annoying, especially if he's not even getting injured in games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puckloo39 5,686 Report post Posted January 21, 2008 If Cleary asks for too much, i.e 3.5M, I think itd be more likely that the Wings would trade for Hossa assuming they knew 1) if Hossa would be interested in re-signing with Detroit and 2) if they knew Hossas contract demands were within a doable range. I could see the Wings then letting Cleary walk and let somebody else sign him to a 3.5M deal and then using that extra cap space to sign Hossa to a big contract longer term. And yes, its doable assuming Detroit would probably trade Hudler plus extras for Hossa, and assuming the cap goes up about 6M in the next 2 years (its already projected to go up 4M this year) agreed, YG. Hossa is not Atlanta's franchise player, oddly. Kovalchuk is, if anyone. I think if Hossa would agree to reasonable terms for 2-3 years, he would be a great fit. I'd hate to lose Cleary - at least at this point in time - as I already think of him as a RWF (Red Wing Forever). Maybe Danny will balance the lure of potential big money elsewhere for the perks of remaining a Red Wing. Where else would he have a better chance every year of winning a Cup, besides Anaheim? They already grabbed up all our "moveable" players last summer, anyway, didn't they? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stormboy 47 Report post Posted January 22, 2008 http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/artic.../801210401/1128 "It's stiff and sore today, it's a challenge," Zetterberg said. "I felt the same way yesterday and decided to stay off today. After the game (Saturday) it got a little worse. "I'd say it's pretty questionable for tomorrow." The Wings play at Los Angeles on Tuesday and at Anaheim on Wednesday. Zetterberg said he hasn't thought about whether he'll play in Sunday's All-Star Game in Atlanta. He had to decline to play last year's game because of a groin injury. Zetterberg missed of the second half of last season with a similar back injury and doesn't want that to happen again. Coach Mike Babcock said the team will be cautious with Zetterberg, but added the Wings won't tell Zetterberg specifically to stay home from the All-Star Game. "He knows his body better than I do," Babcock said. If Zetterberg can't play Tuesday, Dallas Drake (knee) is ready to get back in the lineup. oh, well no worries then. seriously...this is a bummer. more so because this happens every year. the guy's never going to get a hundred points if he can't play more than seventy games a season. it's most important that he's healthy for the playoffs...we can pretty much play .333 hockey from here on out and still probably make it. (not that i want them to of course.) it would be best for the the team for him to take his time recovering so that he's nice and healthy when he comes back...but i really want z to end at least in the top three scorers this year and get some well-deserved recognition. but, we'll see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
irishtemper14+25 11 Report post Posted January 22, 2008 i read that, it doesnt seem to be too serious...but s***!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted January 22, 2008 agreed, YG. Hossa is not Atlanta's franchise player, oddly. Kovalchuk is, if anyone. I think if Hossa would agree to reasonable terms for 2-3 years, he would be a great fit. I'd hate to lose Cleary - at least at this point in time - as I already think of him as a RWF (Red Wing Forever). Maybe Danny will balance the lure of potential big money elsewhere for the perks of remaining a Red Wing. Where else would he have a better chance every year of winning a Cup, besides Anaheim? They already grabbed up all our "moveable" players last summer, anyway, didn't they? Im definitely with you. I really do NOT want to lose Cleary, but if Hossa is doable and Clearys asking for the moon, its the opportunity of a lifetime, especially when you consider Hanks injury history and that we may not have Lidstrom in 2 years. We all know we wont be able to replace Lids, so the answer to that problem may be to pack the offensive punch up front to the point where we have the best forward group in the NHL..Ideally, id get rid of Sammy, Franzen, and then Hudler before anyone else, keep a bottom 4 of Kopecky, Downey, Drapes, and Maltby, and then add a cheap character guy and a griffin to fill in the last 2 bottom 6 spots, and keep a top 6 of Flip, Cleary, Homer, Hank, Hossa, and Datsyuk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted January 22, 2008 Im definitely with you. I really do NOT want to lose Cleary, but if Hossa is doable and Clearys asking for the moon, its the opportunity of a lifetime, especially when you consider Hanks injury history and that we may not have Lidstrom in 2 years. We all know we wont be able to replace Lids, so the answer to that problem may be to pack the offensive punch up front to the point where we have the best forward group in the NHL..Ideally, id get rid of Sammy, Franzen, and then Hudler before anyone else, keep a bottom 4 of Kopecky, Downey, Drapes, and Maltby, and then add a cheap character guy and a griffin to fill in the last 2 bottom 6 spots, and keep a top 6 of Flip, Cleary, Homer, Hank, Hossa, and Datsyuk. I can't believe people think Hossa is good enough to replace multiple players on the Wings. I'd hate to see Cleary go, but to think we could lose him, Hudler, and God knwos who else just to get Hossa is ridiculous. Hudler has been one of our best players and is developing nicely. I know you have to give up talent to get talent, but this is ridiculous the talk that goes on around here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeyCrazy3033 168 Report post Posted January 22, 2008 NOO HANK NOOO! This really sucks. He's going to more than likely miss his second all star game in a row. Wtf. DAMN YOU BACK. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted January 22, 2008 (edited) This is getting ridiculous. Already he's had two back injuries this year, and we're just barely past the half-way point of the season. I'm starting to think it's not worth giving him a high paying, long term contract. You may all blast me for saying that, but how can you give a guy 7+ million a season (I'm ballparking that that's going to be what he asks for) when he can't stay healthy? At this point, it might be better to get Hossa on this team long term, since he can stay healthy, and either try to sign Zetterberg to a cheap contract when the time comes, or let him walk. Or, trade him at next years deadline for something. Sorry if that comment bothers anyone on here, but it's coming closer and closer to the time to sign Zetterberg, and he's becoming a huge risk factor. I'm just looking at it from the standpoint that the risks outweigh the rewards, and if he can't stay healthy after the Wings sign him, that's a huge salary they'll have on the books that's not going anywhere. I honestly never thought I'd discuss the possibility of not bringing Zetterberg back, because he's my favorite player on the Wings right now behind Downey. But, if signing him to a big contract puts the team in a bad position, then it might be time to cut ties... Edited January 22, 2008 by Kp-Wings Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e_mcgrath88 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2008 trade him and hudler to Pittsburg for Malkin.. get it done kenny... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingfanatic4alltime 32 Report post Posted January 22, 2008 (edited) I am really starting to freak out about his back. Edited January 22, 2008 by wingfanatic4alltime Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted January 22, 2008 I can't believe people think Hossa is good enough to replace multiple players on the Wings. He's a franchise winger who knows how to put the puck in the net and is damn near impossible to knock off the puck. In other words: just what this team needs. So yes, he's absolutely good enough to replace multiple players on this roster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
therock48880 14 Report post Posted January 22, 2008 I started a thread a few weeks ago saying he should skip the all-star and I stand by that opinion. It has nothing to do with the hitting or lack there of at the game. It has everything to do with the rest he he can get by not going. I agree 100%. If he needs rest, he needs to stay home instead of playing a meaningless exhibition game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
therock48880 14 Report post Posted January 22, 2008 I can't believe people think Hossa is good enough to replace multiple players on the Wings. People think that way because he IS good enough to replace multiple players. I can't see how anyone who's watched him play could argue otherwise. (assuming the "multiple players" aren't Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Lidstrom) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grittzkey 1 Report post Posted January 22, 2008 Oh well, We've gone without Z before im sure we will do it again Not to mention, its only the kings..ahaha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viperar 16 Report post Posted January 22, 2008 Oh well, We've gone without Z before im sure we will do it again Not to mention, its only the kings..ahaha followed by the ducks, which i am pretty sure he will miss out since its the very next day. Ducks wont be so easy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IceMunkee 15 Report post Posted January 22, 2008 trade him and hudler to Pittsburg for Malkin.. get it done kenny... WTF?!?! Really Z and someone for Malkin. I would think it would be Malkin and somebody for Zeta first of all.... Silly! Really all of you guys smash me for talking about Rafalski. I get my head ripped off for saying that Lilja is not a fighter, that Hudler is expendable and here you guys are for what seems to be not even a serious injury and your talking about trading and getting rid of Zetterburg. Wow! You all more moody then my pregnant wife. More flakey then a high school girl. Look at this way Z has already missed some time this year and is still number five in points. Where is Malkin and Hossa on that list? I don't think either has missed any time this season. The injury he has will huant him his entire career. Let him rest for a couple games and come back, if he is still in the top ten when it happens I am pretty sure we can leave the panic button in it's case. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted January 22, 2008 (edited) Relax people, resist the temptation to push the JOLLY SHINY CANDY LIKE PANIC BUTTON! Even though I know people are going to do so and this post will go over people's head (I can already here the *whooshing* breeze). Oh well, I’ll still try. Seriously, we should try to get a grip on the situation. I know I know what some might say, "BUT SOUTHERNWINGSFAN THIS IS ZETTERBERG OMG THE WINGS CAN'T PLAY WITHOUT HIM HE IS THE SLAMMO OF BAMMOS THE ZORRO OF Z'S JUST A GIGANTIC MUTANT OF A MAN HE’S ZETTERBERG!" Or something a little less descriptive and less goofy than that (hey it's the best I could come up with off-hand in 30 seconds ). He knows his body better than any one of us, and I think it's a safe bet that if it were playoffs, he'd be playing. It's not like the Wings are sweating bullets for a playoff spot right now though. While I'd definitely like for him to be on the ice obviously, the team can afford him to miss a few games if absolutely need be. He doesn't seem all that concerned, I'm not all that concerned, we shouldn't be all that concerned. Now let's all play Twister! I tried. Edited January 22, 2008 by SouthernWingsFan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viperar 16 Report post Posted January 22, 2008 its so shiny SWF, i just wanna push it fast and often Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
