TheCaptain19 49 Report post Posted January 22, 2008 second year in a row. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bringback91 2 Report post Posted January 22, 2008 I think the All star game should be at the end of the year anyway, kinda like the pro bowl. Anyway, maybe Perry can ditch the visor since there's no chance of a fight or anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted January 22, 2008 (edited) I think the All star game should be at the end of the year anyway, kinda like the pro bowl. Anyway, maybe Perry can ditch the visor since there's no chance of a fight or anything. Edited January 22, 2008 by Detroit # 1 Fan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sergei_is_still_a_wing 1 Report post Posted January 22, 2008 Honestly, Perry deserves it. He's 22 years old and is 8th in the league in goals. His success is linked to Getzlaf and vice versa. Much like Kariya and Selanne of the old Mighty Ducks. They need to be in it together. first two sentences: ok, i might buy that. second two: leave me going just because they make a good combo doesn't mean they BOTH deserve to go. its the allstar game. if were taking combos just because they compliment eachother well, we'd need the first line of the wings and sens and the most dominating goalie tandem in the game OZZIE AND DOM. doesn't work that way. plus the entire "every team needs a representative" thing is BS. let the fans vote on the ENTIRE roster i say and if you're selected, you GO. we can't force anyone to play in it, but if it were one of those unwritten rule sort of things, players would show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted January 22, 2008 I sense some sour grapes in the crowd Honestly, Perry deserves it. He's 22 years old and is 8th in the league in goals. His success is linked to Getzlaf and vice versa. Much like Kariya and Selanne of the old Mighty Ducks. They need to be in it together. As for Niedermayer, I'm happy another Duck is in, but like you guys, I agree that there are more deserving candidates out there. There is absolutely NO way you can justify Niedermayer and Perry going in over Rafalski and Huselius. The league is a joke though, and it has been for some years now, especially when it comes to the ASG, so its no surprise you have hairbrained picks like these. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted January 22, 2008 No, he was one of the best D-men in the league last year, this year he is a player who has played 17 games while a player who is the second D-man in points is not in the game. I am happy Ralf can rest, don't get me wrong, but this is not the best players this year, this is one of the best players last year. ASG are year by year assesment, this isn't like the hall where you say well over the past x years he has been good. It is a what have you done for me lately status. I understand the:what have you done for me lately thought, but he was the runner up for the Norris and leading scorer amongst defensemen last year, we aren't talking about his entire career here. Look at it his way, if Crosby was injured before the season started and he didn't start playing until 30 games in are you going to say that when he is just starting playing, he isn't one of the best players? Again, I understand taking him out of the running for an award, but I'd want to watch Niedermayer in the allstar game because he's one of the best, I don't care that he missed most of the first half. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted January 22, 2008 Although it would have been nice to seem him play its just not worth it for a game that means nothing. That being said, I'm extremelly interested to see what kind of deal he signs this offseason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yzerfan1999 81 Report post Posted January 22, 2008 first two sentences: ok, i might buy that. second two: leave me going just because they make a good combo doesn't mean they BOTH deserve to go. its the allstar game. if were taking combos just because they compliment eachother well, we'd need the first line of the wings and sens and the most dominating goalie tandem in the game OZZIE AND DOM. doesn't work that way. plus the entire "every team needs a representative" thing is BS. let the fans vote on the ENTIRE roster i say and if you're selected, you GO. we can't force anyone to play in it, but if it were one of those unwritten rule sort of things, players would show. I was thinking the same thing. Just because two players complement each other doesn't mean they both go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yzerfan1999 81 Report post Posted January 22, 2008 I understand the:what have you done for me lately thought, but he was the runner up for the Norris and leading scorer amongst defensemen last year, we aren't talking about his entire career here. Look at it his way, if Crosby was injured before the season started and he didn't start playing until 30 games in are you going to say that when he is just starting playing, he isn't one of the best players? Again, I understand taking him out of the running for an award, but I'd want to watch Niedermayer in the allstar game because he's one of the best, I don't care that he missed most of the first half. I get what you are saying, you can't argue that Niedermeyer's not a great d-man, and under normal circumstances SHOULD go to the all-star game. But what about the younger guys in the league who worked hard ALL season to get a chance to go to the game, and now lose out on a spot because of a players reputation? Just doesn't seem fair, or logical. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingslogo19 281 Report post Posted January 22, 2008 Hmm, im still wondering how the hell scott is in the all star game now.. I personally think its BS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt 1,049 Report post Posted January 22, 2008 Good to hear. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
40#1Fan 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2008 (also posted this in today's GDT due to the Drake update) Henrik Zetterberg said today that he will not play the next two games and has withdrawn from Sunday's All-Star Game because of his sore lower back. Zetterberg also pulled out of the All-Star Game last year due to tendinitis in his wrist. He said he's going to rest during the break and hopes to return to the lineup next week. "I'm disappointed, especially this year after I was voted in (as a starter) by the fans,'' Zetterberg said. "We decided it's best not to go and get this squared away and be healthy for the rest of the year.'' He said his back didn't improve from the day before but that it's not as serious as the flare-up from last month, which forced him to sit out five games. He also said the issue is with his muscle, not a disc. Last year he missed the last 19 games of the season with an inflamed disc. "I'm still positive,'' Zetterberg said. "It's not that I'm really worried that it's going to go as it did last year but you never know.'' Dallas Drake (sore knee) will also miss the next two games as the team has opted to give him more time to heal. Matt Ellis will be inserted into the lineup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duck Guy 86 Report post Posted January 22, 2008 (edited) scottie is just that good he can play for only what 17 games? or so and still be chosen as a allstar nice for me to see 4 ducks at the all star game. perry deserves to go also Edited January 22, 2008 by Duck Guy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingslogo19 281 Report post Posted January 22, 2008 Like I said before, this is a mean nothing game. Glad to see Zetts miss this and hopefully he'll get better quickly. We all want him for the stretch that counts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
up2here 41 Report post Posted January 22, 2008 (also posted this in today's GDT due to the Drake update) Henrik Zetterberg said today that he will not play the next two games and has withdrawn from Sunday's All-Star Game because of his sore lower back. Zetterberg also pulled out of the All-Star Game last year due to tendinitis in his wrist. He said he's going to rest during the break and hopes to return to the lineup next week. "I'm disappointed, especially this year after I was voted in (as a starter) by the fans,'' Zetterberg said. "We decided it's best not to go and get this squared away and be healthy for the rest of the year.'' He said his back didn't improve from the day before but that it's not as serious as the flare-up from last month, which forced him to sit out five games. He also said the issue is with his muscle, not a disc. Last year he missed the last 19 games of the season with an inflamed disc. "I'm still positive,'' Zetterberg said. "It's not that I'm really worried that it's going to go as it did last year but you never know.'' Dallas Drake (sore knee) will also miss the next two games as the team has opted to give him more time to heal. Matt Ellis will be inserted into the lineup. I wish he had surgery last offseason,this would all be over now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted January 22, 2008 I understand the:what have you done for me lately thought, but he was the runner up for the Norris and leading scorer amongst defensemen last year, we aren't talking about his entire career here. Look at it his way, if Crosby was injured before the season started and he didn't start playing until 30 games in are you going to say that when he is just starting playing, he isn't one of the best players? Again, I understand taking him out of the running for an award, but I'd want to watch Niedermayer in the allstar game because he's one of the best, I don't care that he missed most of the first half. I would say Crosby doesn't deserve to go to the All Star game, same thing I am saying about Neids. I would say it if it were Dats or Z as well. The only way a person playing in 17 games, imo, would be an all star is if they went off on an absolute tear and put up numbers that actually deserved consideration. So if in those 17 games Neids had put up 15-20-35 then yes he has shown that this year he has earned the right to be an all star. But if in 17 games he puts up 2-9-11 imo, those are not all star numbers especially when Ralf has 8-33-41. But this was given to him based on who he is and what he was last year. By the time the season ends he may have unbelievable numbers that show he deserves to be called an All Star, but when the game is in February you cannot use what he did last year or what he may do this year to judge whether or not he is an All star. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 24 Report post Posted January 22, 2008 [url="http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=227917&hubname="]http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=227917&hubname=[/url] Malkin will replace Crosby, Thomas replaces Brodeur. Niedermeyer, Perry, and Riberio replace Stastny, Zetterberg, and Zubov. The fact that Scott Niedermeyer is playing in the All-Star game after missing half of the season makes me sick. Sorry if this is double - don't see it yet though. Me too! I don't care what anyone says, that is BS! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 24 Report post Posted January 22, 2008 I would say Crosby doesn't deserve to go to the All Star game, same thing I am saying about Neids. I would say it if it were Dats or Z as well. The only way a person playing in 17 games, imo, would be an all star is if they went off on an absolute tear and put up numbers that actually deserved consideration. So if in those 17 games Neids had put up 15-20-35 then yes he has shown that this year he has earned the right to be an all star. But if in 17 games he puts up 2-9-11 imo, those are not all star numbers especially when Ralf has 8-33-41. But this was given to him based on who he is and what he was last year. By the time the season ends he may have unbelievable numbers that show he deserves to be called an All Star, but when the game is in February you cannot use what he did last year or what he may do this year to judge whether or not he is an All star. YEP! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OsGOD 3 Report post Posted January 22, 2008 (edited) Wow so Neids is in because this is now a Career All-Star game and not a season one? damn they should have just waited until the offseason to play this game and not interrupt the season play. Neids is total joke and demonstrates what a joke the All-Star game really is.... Edited January 22, 2008 by OsGOD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
interminded 1 Report post Posted January 22, 2008 Maybe the Wings Ozzie, Lids and Pavel should cancel too. And take out Rafalski for a beer and a nudie bar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
40#1Fan 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2008 some good news on Zetty's back (also posted on the original "back" thread): The Detroit News's Ted Kulfan says that Zetterberg's back issue is neither related to the herniated disc he battled through last season, nor the spasms he suffered in December. It sounds like (and your humble blogger is no doctor) Zetterberg simply got cross-checked and suffered bruising to his lower back: January 22, Detroit News:Zetterberg missed 5 games around the Christmas break because of an aching back after reaching down to pick up his laundry bag. He missed the final 19 games last season with an inflamed disc. Zetterberg said this injury occurred while getting hit late in the third period Saturday in San Jose. He said the pain is in the lower back, but is not related to the disc. This is the second consecutive year Zetterberg will miss the All-Star game. He missed last year's game due to a wrist injury. "Of course I'm disappointed," said Zetterberg after the Wings completed their morning skate. Zetterberg had treatment on his back but hasn't been on the ice since playing Saturday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akustyk 84 Report post Posted January 22, 2008 (edited) speaking of Niederwhiner... why did they actually pick Perry for the ASG if it could've been Teemu? I mean... come on... he could've always dressed for a single regular season game prior to ASG just to shut those guys who yap those "he's supposed to be 2007-08 season star" complaints? anyway, I'm glad Zetterberg is off this dumb event. let him have his All-Star game in June and fetch some more valuable hardware that's all I care about Edited January 22, 2008 by akustyk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
imisssergei 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2008 There is absolutely NO way you can justify Niedermayer and Perry going in over Rafalski and Huselius. The league is a joke though, and it has been for some years now, especially when it comes to the ASG, so its no surprise you have hairbrained picks like these. Yes you can. Using the EXACT same reasoning why Dom got ANY votes. It's his name. Neither player deserved to get consideration for the ASG (spare me the 'but look at what Dom has done the past month spiel.) The ASG is a popularity contest, nothing more. I don't understand why people get so worked up over who goes and who doesn't. It's an exhibition game. Big deal. If it were Cheli and Cleary added, I don't think you'd see half of these people complaining, rather they would be justifying why those two really do deserve to be in the ASG. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scotvm 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2008 http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=12782 i want nothing more than to face the ducks in the WCF again and get some sweet revenge. they deserve NOTHING this season! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akustyk 84 Report post Posted January 22, 2008 Yes you can. Using the EXACT same reasoning why Dom got ANY votes. It's his name. Neither player deserved to get consideration for the ASG (spare me the 'but look at what Dom has done the past month spiel.) not so sure about this. Scotty has a name for himself but Perry is not a big name yet. he might be because this brat has the capacity to, but it's not there yet. and Rafalski actually has a name. and if you take into account the fact that he's American and the league is badly trying to kiss-ass US audience... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
