Official: Selanne signs with Ducks

[FUUFNF 1]

99.9%? I call that winning hearts and minds!

I'm not intellectually superior to any mere mortals per say.

I'm just intellectually superior to you you dumb f***!

now, if you want to continue this mr. tons of fun, lets take it to PM's. No need to air out our grievances for the rest of the forum.

shoot me another PM about how great I am and how I'm smarter than you. Those words coming from you just bring a smile to my face. I could listen to you stroking my ego all day long big boy.

no need for pms, i wouldn't want to detract from your valiant effort to single handedly rid the world of homerism. actually, i could read your self-righteous, egotistical posts all day. i've even developed a drinking game in your honor. every time i see the word "homer" in any of your posts, i take a nice big swig. needless to say, i've been punishing my liver since you've graced us with your presence. it's all in good fun, so keep on keeping on.

btw, "big boy"?... i see your wife has been telling stories about me again.

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

True, so then I should just sit here and watch people spread pure lies, sorry wrong choice of words, things that they have no way of proving true, thus creating more uninformed fans thus creating more posters who post out of ignorance and create more ignorant fans on this board. Thus making this board nothing more than a large recycling bin for posts and threads.

Why even bother coming onto the board then.

NFM you may or may not have been on here back in the day, I am not going to look up your join date, which could be wrong anyways depending if you joined when it was still Ikonboard software or not.

This board used to be and sometimes still is a great source of information, especially for some one like me who lives in NH or people who live in other parts of the world. Now it is turning into nothing more than the ESPN boards.

Not arguing with you here, however you logic is that they can have their opinion, but I or GS&T cannot express our opinions or known facts to contradict?

If their opinion is that Forsberg is a Molestor (again check the Forsberg thread) I should sit here and not express that they are completely full of Bulls***, but that person is allowed to say whatever they want?

Can you see how I get easily confused with that logic, I know you are mostly talking to GS&T but I dealt with the same s*** when I was the only one defending Sammy in the threads upon threads that trashed him, and it seems like you are just playing peace officer. However don't you see a little irony in the fact you are telling GS&T to keep his opinion to himself because these people are entitled to express their opinion? That is like Military intelligence or Pretty Ugly, oxymorons, at least that is my opinion I welcome yours. (See I used to write we welcome yours, but apparently fewer and fewer of us tolerate opinions.)

Edit to your Edit: No I was talking to everyone, I just didn't want to group GS&T in with me if he didn't agree, that is why I mentioned his name.

Opie, that's not what I was saying at all. If you know something that someone is posting to be inaccurate, you should absolutely post a response to clear up the false information. What I was referring to is GS&T's constant badgering of people that stated ignorant comments such as "this is stupid" or "this is Bull s***". This is the type of stuff that you can't get worked up about because its mere fluff.

As I said numerous times in this thread, what Burke did was perfectly within the rules whether anyone here likes it or not. If people can't understand that, what is restating the same point 100 times going to do to rectify things?

Absolutely you and GS&T should have your opinions, and I wouldn't have responded to either of you if you weren't posing viable questions to me. On top of that, never once did I tell GS&T to keep his opinion to himself, I just question the need to restate the same point in rebuttal to the comments that uninformed posters keep rambling about. As much as it bothers me that the amount of "quality" posters on this site compared to when I started reading LGW seems to have diminished (and it does bother me), I'm not going to preach about the quality of my posts. Hopefully people find my POV valid and informative, but no matter what people have the right to have their own.

Edited January 29, 2008 by Never Forget Mac #25

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

no need for pms, i wouldn't want to detract from your valiant effort to single handedly rid the world of homerism. actually, i could read your self-righteous, egotistical posts all day. i've even developed a drinking game in your honor. every time i see the word "homer" in any of your posts, i take a nice big swig. needless to say, i've been punishing my liver since you've graced us with your presence. it's all in good fun, so keep on keeping on.

btw, "big boy"?... i see your wife has been telling stories about me again.

well, you're drinking explains alot.

as if trying to combat homerism is something to be frowned upon.

and hey, we agree on something. It is all in good fun isn't it. Although I do take this place seriously and I don't take kindly to watching it deteriorate into canucklehead land.

anyway, since its getting late in the day and I know they blocked your methadone prescriptions from getting filled, I don't want to go home and think about you suffering so this is for you big guy..............

homerhomerhomerhomerhomerhomerhomerhomerhomerhomerhomerhomerhomerhomerhomer!!!!!!!

bottoms up!

[FinRedWing 172]

I found this place awhile back and I joined up because of the quality of posters here. I didn't join up and I don't stick around so I can listen to a bunch of people spew off junk and make the board look ridiculous. I for one like when other fans like still MIGHTY visit the board and inject some insight on the workings of the team they follow. I'd like to see more of that. But who wants to come to LGW if its going to be running rampant with people just bad mouthing every other team and spreading bad info? IMO, we can let the Vancouver boys keep their title.

There's homerism for you.

At its finest.

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

Opie, that's not what I was saying at all. If you know something that someone is posting to be inaccurate, you should absolutely post a response to clear up the false information. What I was referring to is GS&T's constant badgering of people that stated ignorant comments such as "this is stupid" or "this is Bull s***". This is the type of stuff that you can't get worked up about because its mere fluff.

As I said numerous times in this thread, what Burke did was perfectly within the rules whether anyone here likes it or not. If people can't understand that, what is restating the same point 100 times going to do to rectify things?

Absolutely you and GS&T should have your opinions, and I wouldn't have responded to either of you if you weren't posing viable questions to me. On top of that, never once did I tell GS&T to keep his opinion to himself, I just question the need to restate the same point in rebuttal to the comments that uninformed posters keep rambling about.

for the record NFM, I haven't had any beef with you about any of this. we were posing questions and scenarios back and forth all day. I got no problem with anything you've said. And I see your point about not even responding to the fluff. I just feel like if somebody doesn't do it it'll just explode and get worse.

I don't think you, me or Opie need to clarify anything. The only thing that need be said is the cream truly rises to the top.

enjoy it boys....you know I do

aw s***, i just noticed my chicago prediction. boy do I look like a dumbass right now

Edited January 29, 2008 by GordieSid&Ted

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

for the record NFM, I haven't had any beef with you about any of this. we were posing questions and scenarios back and forth all day. I got no problem with anything you've said. And I see your point about not even responding to the fluff. I just feel like if somebody doesn't do it it'll just explode and get worse.

I don't think you, me or Opie need to clarify anything. The only thing that need be said is the cream truly rises to the top.

enjoy it boys....you know I do

aw s***, i just noticed my chicago prediction. boy do I look like a dumbass right now

TBH, I can see yours as well. The amount of fluff that gets posted bothers me as much as it does you I'm sure.

BTW, this was added after you quoted me, but I think its applicable to what were talking about:

As much as it bothers me that the amount of "quality" posters on this site compared to when I started reading LGW seems to have diminished (and it does bother me), I'm not going to preach about the quality of my posts. Hopefully people find my POV valid and informative, but no matter what people have the right to have their own.

Edited January 29, 2008 by Never Forget Mac #25

[rage 24]

So with his salary would it be possible for the Ducks to trade for Mats and ink Foppa to a contract with bonus clauses like they just did with Selanne?? That would be scary!

Hopefully somebody with more Cap knowledge can answer this one.

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

So with his salary would it be possible for the Ducks to trade for Mats and ink Foppa to a contract with bonus clauses like they just did with Selanne?? That would be scary!

Hopefully somebody with more Cap knowledge can answer this one.

Technically, Mats is making $5.5 million this year, and the Ducks have enough room to sign someone that is inked for roughly $5 million on the season. That being said, they would probably have to move a million dollars in current roster space plus, Forsberg would have to sign for the minimum and apply all his contract bonuses toward next years cap. If all that was done, I believe they could make that work (not that they would though).

Edited January 29, 2008 by Never Forget Mac #25

[Opie 308]

Opie, that's not what I was saying at all. If you know something that someone is posting to be inaccurate, you should absolutely post a response to clear up the false information. What I was referring to is GS&T's constant badgering of people that stated ignorant comments such as "this is stupid" or "this is Bull s***". This is the type of stuff that you can't get worked up about because its mere fluff.

As I said numerous times in this thread, what Burke did was perfectly within the rules whether anyone here likes it or not. If people can't understand that, what is restating the same point 100 times going to do to rectify things?

Absolutely you and GS&T should have your opinions, and I wouldn't have responded to either of you if you weren't posing viable questions to me. On top of that, never once did I tell GS&T to keep his opinion to himself, I just question the need to restate the same point in rebuttal to the comments that uninformed posters keep rambling about.

Very valid points, and as I said in my other post I am not arguing with you in any way shape or form.

I don't get caught up in the mere fluff, what bothers me and why I stepped into this conversation, is that people are talking about a huge conspiracy theory a foot, yet they have no evidence, and as I said earlier if he had signed with Boston, Toronto, Pheonix, St. Louis, you get my point basically any where but the Ducks (simply because they were the last team to "steal the cup away" from Detroit) no one would have had one bit of issue with it.

Same with the Penner offer sheet, there were people here saying it is great because it happened to the Ducks. No one said s*** when it was Vanek and the Sabres he tried it with.

However if this were a Red Wings player coming back, or getting scoop up off of an offer sheet this place would freak out.

That is what makes them Homers (not a term I throw around a lot), not the fact that this move bothers them, as I think it is complete bs that it is allowed, but hey if the league allows it, why the hell not, it was smart on Burke's part like the offer sheet was smart on Lowe's part.

If Ken Holland was the first to do it, people who be praising him, holy crap he got Penner on an offer sheet Ken is a genius, that is what makes it homerism.

If you can't live by the expression what is good for the goose is good for the gander don't ***** (not you NFM, obviously). It is like not voting and then complaining about how much Bush sucks, too bad. Same here if you don't like it because of the team he ended up on, then too bad. Because most people on this forum want Forsberg, is Forsberg not effectively doing the same thing, yeah a busted up foot is more obvious. But with Selanne he was (borrowing from GS&T) mentally injured if you will, he was trying to decide. We have no idea what has been going on in his life, he could have lost his mother, wife diagnosed with Cancer, Child got hurt, or maybe he just really didn't think he had the same drive anymore. But because no one knows those things they jumped to it is a conspiracy against the wings, which they don't know either.

But you are right, there is no point because it is the internet and people hide behind the guise of internet tough guy.

I just try to do my part to educate, because that is what happened for me when I joined this board, people like Matt helped share a lot of knowledge when I started coming here. I was a Red Wings fan but had no clue about what went on with things. I will still ask UFA or Salary cap questions here, and usually get a great informative answer. I am not trying to play anyone's dad, just trying to return the favor people did for me. However, in today's society being wrong is not something American's like to admit!

[rage 24]

Technically, Mats is making $5.5 million per year, and the Ducks have enough room to sign someone that is inked for roughly $5 million on the year. That being said, they would probably have to move a million dollars in current roster space plus make all of Forsberg's contract bonuses apply toward next years cap. If all that was done, I believe they could make that work (not that they would though).

That's very informative. Thanks Mac.

I doubt they would pull that off, but you just never seem to know with Burke.

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

Very valid points, and as I said in my other post I am not arguing with you in any way shape or form.

I don't get caught up in the mere fluff, what bothers me and why I stepped into this conversation, is that people are talking about a huge conspiracy theory a foot, yet they have no evidence, and as I said earlier if he had signed with Boston, Toronto, Pheonix, St. Louis, you get my point basically any where but the Ducks (simply because they were the last team to "steal the cup away" from Detroit) no one would have had one bit of issue with it.

Same with the Penner offer sheet, there were people here saying it is great because it happened to the Ducks. No one said s*** when it was Vanek and the Sabres he tried it with.

However if this were a Red Wings player coming back, or getting scoop up off of an offer sheet this place would freak out.

That is what makes them Homers (not a term I throw around a lot), not the fact that this move bothers them, as I think it is complete bs that it is allowed, but hey if the league allows it, why the hell not, it was smart on Burke's part like the offer sheet was smart on Lowe's part.

If Ken Holland was the first to do it, people who be praising him, holy crap he got Penner on an offer sheet Ken is a genius, that is what makes it homerism.

If you can't live by the expression what is good for the goose is good for the gander don't ***** (not you NFM, obviously). It is like not voting and then complaining about how much Bush sucks, too bad. Same here if you don't like it because of the team he ended up on, then too bad. Because most people on this forum want Forsberg, is Forsberg not effectively doing the same thing, yeah a busted up foot is more obvious. But with Selanne he was (borrowing from GS&T) mentally injured if you will, he was trying to decide. We have no idea what has been going on in his life, he could have lost his mother, wife diagnosed with Cancer, Child got hurt, or maybe he just really didn't think he had the same drive anymore. But because no one knows those things they jumped to it is a conspiracy against the wings, which they don't know either.

But you are right, there is no point because it is the internet and people hide behind the guise of internet tough guy.

I just try to do my part to educate, because that is what happened for me when I joined this board, people like Matt helped share a lot of knowledge when I started coming here. I was a Red Wings fan but had no clue about what went on with things. I will still ask UFA or Salary cap questions here, and usually get a great informative answer. I am not trying to play anyone's dad, just trying to return the favor people did for me. However, in today's society being wrong is not something American's like to admit!

No argument here.......perfectly stated.

[FUUFNF 1]

well, you're drinking explains alot.

as if trying to combat homerism is something to be frowned upon.

and hey, we agree on something. It is all in good fun isn't it. Although I do take this place seriously and I don't take kindly to watching it deteriorate into canucklehead land.

anyway, since its getting late in the day and I know they blocked your methadone prescriptions from getting filled, I don't want to go home and think about you suffering so this is for you big guy..............

homerhomerhomerhomerhomerhomerhomerhomerhomerhomerhomerhomerhomerhomerhomer!!!!!!!

bottoms up!

personally, i find blind homerism as annoying as any other sane person on this board would. still, since those viewpoints and comments are not prohibited here at lgw, that's the world we live in. i couldn't care less that you "don't take kindly to watching it deteriorate into canucklehead land". this is our forum, not yours. so unless matt has made you a mod (which norrisnick is, and has been for a long, long time), do everyone a favor and take it down a notch man.

as for the "homer" drinking game... well, it only works if you use the word in proper context.

p.s - do you even know what methadone is used for? obviously not. "a" for effort though.

Edited January 29, 2008 by FUUFNF

[Opie 308]

personally, i find blind homerism as annoying as any other sane person on this board would. still, since those viewpoints and comments are not prohibited here at lgw, that's the world we live in. i could care less that you "don't take kindly to watching it deteriorate into canucklehead land". this is our forum, not yours. so unless matt has made you a mod (which norrisnick is, and has been for a long, long time), do everyone a favor and take it down a notch man.

as for the "homer" drinking game... well, it only works if you use the word in proper context.

p.s - do you even know what methadone is used for? obviously not. "a" for effort though.

Again the shut your mouth if you disagree with me approach, how can you in one breath tell him that people are entiltled to their opinion but he isn't, it is "OUR" board but he is not apart of it.

Do you not see how you are contradicting yourself.

If he was on here agreeing with you would you quote his posts with QFT or is it because he disagrees with you that you feel the right, need, desire to tell him how to post. YET he is not allwed to tell people who are basing their opinions on absolutely nothing, the facts or ask them to post things that are not completley baseless.

Remember this board is not lived in a miopic one thread at a time view, these threads and posts reference all across the board from forum to forum thread to thread. So for you to expect that every time some one opens a thread they are going to completely disregard anything from another is ignorance. And before you take that as an insult look up the word ignorance, by no means am I calling you dumb or stupid.

I have seen your posts and you do offer informative posts, but I see you spending a lot of time following GS&T around griping with him trying to create flame wars.

Did he kick your dog, dawg? Did he s*** in you Cheerios once? GS&T I told you time and time again to stop doing that.

Whatever your reasons are they are yours. He and I disagree on most every topic on this board, yet I have not once got in an argument or flame war with him.

Yes everyone is entitled to their opinion, but is it too much to ask that it be an informed opinon instead of one based on hatred for one team or undevoted love for another!

Does GS&T go overboard, of course we all do from time to time, check out the Sammy threads you will see times where it looks like I lost my mind in his defense. A lot of that comes from the interaction and dealing with many posts.

Also, notice the Homer thing has a way of recycling from thread to thread much like the use of the phrase "Lazy and sucks"!

[edicius 3,269]

As for the Mogilny and Malakhov deals. Yeah, a loophole was there and frankly I have no problem with that either. The Devils needed to shed salary and the Sharks had room to take that salary on. The Sharks got a nice juicy pick out of the deal and Lamo got under the cap. Neither team had a problem with making the deal so why should I? No different than one company trading carbon points to another company with lesser emissions. That's how I look at it anyway.

You know...that's actually the best comparison I've heard for the whole Mogilny/Malakhov deal. Makes perfect sense. When you put it that way, I'm not so irked about how Lou did that.

[Duck Guy 86]

wow alot of people are writing paragraphs it hurts my eyes. and i see the word homer like 1000 times haha. I guess this contract with teemu really struck a nerve.

Edited January 30, 2008 by Duck Guy

[Drimo 0]

wow alot of people are writing paragraphs it hurts my eyes. and i see the word homer like 1000 times haha. I guess this contract with teemu really struck a nerve.

I know, this thread got so off topic that it has become disgusting!

[Opie 308]

I know, this thread got so off topic that it has become disgusting!

Good thing you brought it back on track.

I kid, I kid!

[FUUFNF 1]

Again the shut your mouth if you disagree with me approach, how can you in one breath tell him that people are entiltled to their opinion but he isn't, it is "OUR" board but he is not apart of it.

Do you not see how you are contradicting yourself.

If he was on here agreeing with you would you quote his posts with QFT or is it because he disagrees with you that you feel the right, need, desire to tell him how to post. YET he is not allwed to tell people who are basing their opinions on absolutely nothing, the facts or ask them to post things that are not completley baseless.

Remember this board is not lived in a miopic one thread at a time view, these threads and posts reference all across the board from forum to forum thread to thread. So for you to expect that every time some one opens a thread they are going to completely disregard anything from another is ignorance. And before you take that as an insult look up the word ignorance, by no means am I calling you dumb or stupid.

I have seen your posts and you do offer informative posts, but I see you spending a lot of time following GS&T around griping with him trying to create flame wars.

Did he kick your dog, dawg? Did he s*** in you Cheerios once? GS&T I told you time and time again to stop doing that.

Whatever your reasons are they are yours. He and I disagree on most every topic on this board, yet I have not once got in an argument or flame war with him.

Yes everyone is entitled to their opinion, but is it too much to ask that it be an informed opinon instead of one based on hatred for one team or undevoted love for another!

Does GS&T go overboard, of course we all do from time to time, check out the Sammy threads you will see times where it looks like I lost my mind in his defense. A lot of that comes from the interaction and dealing with many posts.

Also, notice the Homer thing has a way of recycling from thread to thread much like the use of the phrase "Lazy and sucks"!

i don't see really see how i can make my point without contradicting myself to a certain extent, but i'm not the one who's constantly labeling anyone who has an opinion that isn't completely unbiased or objective as being a "homer". after all, since the majority of us are red wing fans i would expect some amount of bias in all of us. and never did i say that gs&t wasn't entitled to his opinion just because we happen to disagree. my point was that the whole homer police schick is getting old, and maybe, just maybe, he should "take it down a notch" with that line of thinking. he, by his own admission, knows that his zealousness to that regard can be overboard.

as for the topic of flaming, i'm not the one who started in with "ahhhh, more wit and wisdom from my esteemed colleague. where's the other half of that brain of yours...you know, nick. i didn't think you guys could formulate thoughts without giving each other a rub and a tug" or "sheep are like that. here, let me pull a quarter from behind your ear and dazzle that wicked brain of yours". i may have partook after the fact, but who really started flaming who here?

if you happen to agree with his perspective, that's your prerogative. but don't look at what i've said in a vacuum just because you happen to agree with him.

that said, i think we've derailed the thread quite enough. i'll leave it alone if everyone else does.

[Avalanche Warning 0]

If Teemu can play close to the level he did last season, they will repeat as champions. Detroit would be the only team to give them a run for thier money in the playoffs, but the Ducks, like they proved last year, are too big and strong for the Euro Wings.

[FUUFNF 1]

If Teemu can play close to the level he did last season, they will repeat as champions. Detroit would be the only team to give them a run for thier money in the playoffs, but the Ducks, like they proved last year, are too big and strong for the Euro Wings.

we were 47 seconds away from debunking that myth. but they are the champs, and i'm looking forward to knocking them out of the playoffs this year.

[Kp-Wings 3]

If Teemu can play close to the level he did last season, they will repeat as champions. Detroit would be the only team to give them a run for thier money in the playoffs, but the Ducks, like they proved last year, are too big and strong for the Euro Wings.

Haha, you sound like the Blues fans that post on here. Is that you CPrice?

[Avalanche Warning 0]

we were 47 seconds away from debunking that myth. but they are the champs, and i'm looking forward to knocking them out of the playoffs this year.

And I believe the Sharks were 34 seconds away from putting you away. Karma's a ***** eh?

And no KP I'm not this "CPrice" you speak of.

Edited January 30, 2008 by Avalanche Warning

[Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204]

If Teemu can play close to the level he did last season, they will repeat as champions. Detroit would be the only team to give them a run for thier money in the playoffs, but the Ducks, like they proved last year, are too big and strong for the Euro Wings.

After the trade deadline, I dont think so. We'll be getting 2 players you know very well. One, Rob Blake, played very well for the Avs, can handle the ducks.

The other, wellllll.......

[FUUFNF 1]

And I believe the Sharks were 34 seconds away from putting you away. Karma's a ***** eh?

touche.

[Avalanche Warning 0]

After the trade deadline, I dont think so. We'll be getting 2 players you know very well. One, Rob Blake, played very well for the Avs, can handle the ducks.

The other, wellllll.......

Seeing Blaker in a Wing uniform will look strange...but IMO Detroit should just stick to the team they have now. They should have learned their lesson in the Bertuzzi / Calder deals last season. And that was 11 years ago, If Detroit thinks adding more old , out of prime players to their roster will help them win a cup, they are indeed mistaken.

Edited January 30, 2008 by Avalanche Warning