Official: Selanne signs with Ducks

[Reds4Life 51]

Too bad for Teemu, he could leave on top..but no..oh well.

[alienanxiety 23]

From TSN's article...

If it takes ANY player "several months" to figure out if they still have the determination to play hockey...well, that's not too convincing.

It's like the wife who asks her husband, "Does this dress make me look fat?" and the husband taking too long to answer. No answer that he gives will be convincing by that point.

I lost a lot of respect for Teemu today.

As much as this whole debacle irritates me, I hope we do get to play them again in the playoffs. I miss the Avs rivalry. I need a team to hate. I've hated Burke since the 2002 Vancouver series, I've hated Pronger for a few years now - add the michelin man goalie and lil punk perry to the recipe and we've got a team I look forward to whooping the ass off in May.

[CAredwingsfan91 28]

annnd why do i continue to watch the NHL under Bettman and all the stupid s*** he does/doesn't change? shame on me and the worst part of all us I get to see duck "fans" put their flags back up on their cars once again and state how big of a "fan" they are, hmm i'm looking for some words here starts with a Band ends with a Wagon? yeah i think thats it.

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

From TSN's article...

If it takes ANY player "several months" to figure out if they still have the determination to play hockey...well, that's not too convincing.

It's like the wife who asks her husband, "Does this dress make me look fat?" and the husband taking too long to answer. No answer that he gives will be convincing by that point.

I lost a lot of respect for Teemu today.

Isn't Fabian Brunstrom a free agent? Why aren't we all saying how unethical it would be to sign this kid and add him to our roster? Is it because he's playing in another league? What if Selanne was playing in a beer league somewhere? Joey Kocur was playing in a beer league when the Wings re signed him for the Cup runs. I don't see anybody complaining about us doing that.

I said it before, this all smacks of sour grapes from Wings fans who are intimidated by the Ducks getting better. No rules were broken. None of us know what Selanne's situation was. All we believe is what we want to believe. Well, people want to believe it shouldn't take 7 months to figure out your life. So what. Who cares how long we think it should take for somebody to figure their s*** out. Doesn't make us any better than the next guy. As far as i'm concerned the burden of proof is on those who would look down on Selanne without any grounds for their accusations or hypotheses.

So what proof is there that would lead one to believe Selanne is a jerk or a guy of poor character who is screwing over the rest of us by finally coming back?

What right do we have to think there's anything wrong with this? Why is this different than any other player signing, like us maybe signing Brunsstrom or Forsberg? I haven't seen anyone say we shouldn't sign Forsberg because of the reasons they're using against Selanne.

edited for length. hell, even I can't read that much bulls***

Edited January 28, 2008 by GordieSid&Ted

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

No worries.

And you're right, it's not quite apples to apples, but still fairly close, I think.

I only have a problem with the Niedermayer thing really. And it's not because I like Teemu more or anything. Selanne is under no obligation to anyone. If he wants to come back and the Ducks want to sign him, so be it. I'd like to think if Lidstrom did the same thing, he'd be welcomed back with open arms.

I don't want to reopen the whole can of worms on Niedermayer, but if you're gonna have a guy under contract come back midway through the season, the team should have to pay the season's salary and take the cap hit. If the player is going to be that wishy washy about it, well then that's on him.

Well said Harold. QFT!!!!! So where do people get off claiming a "loss of respect" for Selanne? Methinks it has nothing to do with respect and everything to do with whining about the other kid getting a shiny new toy.

[Kingston 21]

The Finnish winger and the Anaheim Ducks have agreed to terms on a contract for the balance of this season and Selanne has re-joined the team.

"It took Teemu several months to determine if he had the passion and determination to return to the NHL, and we are thrilled to have him back," said Ducks Executive Vice President/General Manager Brian Burke in a statement.

"This is a player who scored 48 goals last year and showed no signs of slowing down."
Related Info

    * Power Rankings: Ducks are 5th
    * McKenzie's Blog: Time for serious business

The right-winger appeared in all 82 of the Ducks' games last season, recording 48 goals, 94 points and 82 penalty minutes en route to their first Stanley Cup. The Helsinki, Finland native has played in 1,041 regular season games over his 14-year career, recording 540 goals, 1,135 points and 461 penalty minutes.



The ten-time All-Star was originally drafted by the Winnipeg Jets in the 1988 Entry Draft. In his first year with the club, the Finnish Flash set rookie records with 76 goals and 132 points.

After four seasons in Winnipeg, Selanne was traded to Anaheim and played for four years with the Ducks before being dealt to the San Jose Sharks in 2001. After two seasons in San Jose, he was reunited with former Ducks teammate Paul Kariya when he signed with the Colorado Avalanche as a free agent.

Selanne returned to the Ducks as an unrestricted free agent in 2005. He led the club in scoring in 2005-06, posting 40 goals and 90 points in 80 games.

Selanne has played in four Winter Olympics with Finland, winning a silver medal in 2006 and a bronze medal in 1998.

soruce: http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=228393&hubname=

[WingMachine91 0]

The Finnish winger and the Anaheim Ducks have agreed to terms on a contract for the balance of this season and Selanne has re-joined the team.

"It took Teemu several months to determine if he had the passion and determination to return to the NHL, and we are thrilled to have him back," said Ducks Executive Vice President/General Manager Brian Burke in a statement.

"This is a player who scored 48 goals last year and showed no signs of slowing down."
Related Info

    * Power Rankings: Ducks are 5th
    * McKenzie's Blog: Time for serious business

The right-winger appeared in all 82 of the Ducks' games last season, recording 48 goals, 94 points and 82 penalty minutes en route to their first Stanley Cup. The Helsinki, Finland native has played in 1,041 regular season games over his 14-year career, recording 540 goals, 1,135 points and 461 penalty minutes.



The ten-time All-Star was originally drafted by the Winnipeg Jets in the 1988 Entry Draft. In his first year with the club, the Finnish Flash set rookie records with 76 goals and 132 points.

After four seasons in Winnipeg, Selanne was traded to Anaheim and played for four years with the Ducks before being dealt to the San Jose Sharks in 2001. After two seasons in San Jose, he was reunited with former Ducks teammate Paul Kariya when he signed with the Colorado Avalanche as a free agent.

Selanne returned to the Ducks as an unrestricted free agent in 2005. He led the club in scoring in 2005-06, posting 40 goals and 90 points in 80 games.

Selanne has played in four Winter Olympics with Finland, winning a silver medal in 2006 and a bronze medal in 1998.

soruce: http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=228393&hubname=

haha yess, now i look like a genius for picking him up in my fantasy last week

[Duck Guy 86]

yaaa for teemu AND the ducks :thumbup:

[Kingston 21]

Detroit still own duckies.

[sergei_is_still_a_wing 1]

i think its bulls*** that players get to just hang around and come back to their team whenever they see fit. you have 4 months to decide wtf you're going to do during the offseason. and maybe, MAYBE there should be some sort of buffer in place for players with extreme/extenuating circumsatances, allowing them a few weeks into the season to make a retirement/waive no trade clause/ect. type decision. HOWEVER, the season is HALF F@CKING OVER. and i call bulls***. not to mention the fact that NOT ONE BUT TWO PLAYERS (both from the Yucks) have done this in 07/08.

bettman should get off his ass and put something in the rulebook about this type of crap. Burke is a tool.

i'm from southern cal and i hate the ducks. i'd rather the kings win the cup 5 years in a row then let pronger be in the same room with lord stanley's again...

AND another thing: neidermeyer in the ASG was a joke. ok the guy can play D. but he played what 15 games? and somehow he's more deserving of other skaters that had played night in and night out? no way.

[VladyIBELIEVE16 257]

This makes me irate.

Oh ho hum, I don't think i want to play the first half of the season because I'm too old and need to regain my DESIRE to win and play hockey.

PUH LEASE.

Both he and neidemayer should've made their decision at the beginning of the season and not been such idiots by rejoining the team now.

NO ONE ELSE GETS A BREAK AFTER A STANLEY CUP WIN...

God I hate the ducks.

[kylee 727]

bogus.

two on one team.

i hope they get swept in the 1st round OR swept by the Wings in the conference finals.

[VladyIBELIEVE16 257]

i think its bulls*** that players get to just hang around and come back to their team whenever they see fit. you have 4 months to decide wtf you're going to do during the offseason. and maybe, MAYBE there should be some sort of buffer in place for players with extreme/extenuating circumsatances, allowing them a few weeks into the season to make a retirement/waive no trade clause/ect. type decision. HOWEVER, the season is HALF F@CKING OVER. and i call bulls***. not to mention the fact that NOT ONE BUT TWO PLAYERS (both from the Yucks) have done this in 07/08.

bettman should get off his ass and put something in the rulebook about this type of crap. Burke is a tool.

i'm from southern cal and i hate the ducks. i'd rather the kings win the cup 5 years in a row then let pronger be in the same room with lord stanley again...

AND another thing: neidermeyer in the ASG was a joke. ok the guy can play D. but he played what 15 games? and somehow he's more deserving of other skaters that had played night in and night out? no way.

I'm with you 100% here....

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

No worries.

And you're right, it's not quite apples to apples, but still fairly close, I think.

I only have a problem with the Niedermayer thing really. And it's not because I like Teemu more or anything. Selanne is under no obligation to anyone. If he wants to come back and the Ducks want to sign him, so be it. I'd like to think if Lidstrom did the same thing, he'd be welcomed back with open arms.

I don't want to reopen the whole can of worms on Niedermayer, but if you're gonna have a guy under contract come back midway through the season, the team should have to pay the season's salary and take the cap hit. If the player is going to be that wishy washy about it, well then that's on him.

If Teemu honestly wasn't sure if he wanted to come back until now then thats one thing. If Burke told him to take his sweet time, which I wouldn't be surprised one bit to hear, than that's another. Either way, if the league doesn't put some form of a rule in place for things like this you're going to see it more and more. Also, I would agree with you on the Lidstrom example given the circumstances fell within what I just stated.

Lastly, I agree that a team should be on the hook for the entire cap hit regardless of when a contracted player who's debating retirement comes back. That just keeps things fair for everyone.

[Duck Guy 86]

if Peter Forsberg signed with the wings 2 morrow every wings fan would look past the fact that he got a break and would welcome him with open arms. Thats what i think is funny about people saying how bad of a thing this is that teemu re signed after contemplating retirement. Scott is a way different situation.

Edited January 28, 2008 by Duck Guy

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

BTW, no financial terms were disclosed yet, were they?

[sergei_is_still_a_wing 1]

hey DUCKGUY: i really appreciate your insight and perspective on this forum. you (as well as legionnaire [sp?]) have done nothing but calmly discuss hockey and its surrounding subjects in a fair and respectful manner. especially when most of the wings fans detest the ducks (mainly due to mr. cheapshot...i mean...Pronger). for this, i thank you!

now. onto my question. obviously you are excited to be getting teemu back. i'm sure you threw a party when scotty laced em up again. BUT. isn't there some little part of you that is pissed off that they let the team play .500 hockey for half a year, for no reason other than they wanted rest? i don't buy the desire argument. 99% of me doesn't buy the "i didn't decide whether or not i was going to retire until 42 games deep" argument. so whats left? rest. they aren't ancient but are no spring chickens. hockey is a demanding game and can be very hard on the body. so this extra time off will help their stamina in the long run, no doubt.

if lidstrom and zetterberg sat out 42 games and then came back and lit the NHL on fire, MOST of the fans of other teams would be pissed. and although i would be glad to have them back, i'd be a little pissed they sat back and watched the team struggle for 3 months.

just wondering how you feel about the move, aside from the fact that having them back pleases you a great deal. THANKS!

EDIT:

if Peter Forsberg signed with the wings 2 morrow every wings fan would look past the fact that he got a break and would welcome him with open arms.

this would be NOTHING like the teemu thing. he played for the ducks last year. now he's re-signing with the ducks. if teemu wanted to come back and play for vancuver or montreal or dallas, GO FOR IT. but he had no intention of playing for any team for the rest of his career than the ducks. if forsberg comes back to the highest bidder or whatever, thats COMPLETELY different. not to mention the fact that he has a glass ankle and didn't skate for months after surgery.

Edited January 28, 2008 by sergei_is_still_a_wing

[VladyIBELIEVE16 257]

If Teemu honestly wasn't sure if he wanted to come back until now then thats one thing. If Burke told him to take his sweet time, which I wouldn't be surprised one bit to hear, than that's another. Either way, if the league doesn't put some form of a rule in place for things like this you're going to see it more and more. Also, I would agree with you on the Lidstrom example given the circumstances fell within what I just stated.

Lastly, I agree that a team should be on the hook for the entire cap hit regardless of when a contracted player who's debating retirement comes back. That just keeps things fair for everyone.

I'm all for the cap hit....it would discourage this all together.

For the record, I don't want ANY Player doing this unless it's INJURY BASED not cuz they are too whiney and OLD to play half a season...

[Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204]

Bulls***. Watch out for Anaheim now.

This is kinda good in a way, Kenny is gonna go balls to the walls to win a cup this year. I cant wait for the deadline now!

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

if Peter Forsberg signed with the wings 2 morrow every wings fan would look past the fact that he got a break and would welcome him with open arms. Thats what i think is funny about people saying how bad of a thing this is that teemu re signed after contemplating retirement. Scott is a way different situation.

Foresberg signing with the Wings (while similar) is still different due to the Ducks cap situation. Had Niedermayer or Teemu played this entire season they wouldn't have been able to get everyone under the cap.

[Still MIGHTY 0]

I know that you all don't like that this is happening especially in the way it is.

But I have nothing really substantial to say to this except this.

Yes

Yes

Y-E-S

Yessssssssssssss

Teemu is joining the team on the upcoming monster of a roadtrip (8 games, 15 days). I will be in Detroit on the 10th and I hope to GOD to see him on that ice. That ice. The scene of the crime he pulled on the Wings last year.

Yes, Yes, Yes

Go Ducks

[kylee 727]

This is kinda good in a way, Kenny is gonna go balls to the walls to win a cup this year. I cant wait for the deadline now!

i dont want Holland to rent players to win the Wings a stanley cup - afterall, all that would do would be to fan the flames of people who really watch the Red Wings and say how we bought a stanley cup in 02.

id love for Detroit to either stand pat or make a move to pick up a grinding player and take out the Ducks that way.

[wingslogo19 281]

BTW, no financial terms were disclosed yet, were they?

NFM. Selanne signed a one year deal with an annual base salary of $1.5 million, which means Selanne will receive just under $600,000 for the balance of this season. Per TSN

Cheers

[Duck Guy 86]

hey DUCKGUY: i really appreciate your insight and perspective on this forum. you (as well as legionnaire [sp?]) have done nothing but calmly discuss hockey and its surroun"ding subjects in a fair and respectful manner. especially when most of the wings fans detest the ducks (mainly due to mr. cheapshot...i mean...Pronger). for this, i thank you!

now. onto my question. obviously you are excited to be getting teemu back. i'm sure you threw a party when scotty laced em up again. BUT. isn't there some little part of you that is pissed off that they let the team play .500 hockey for half a year, for no reason other than they wanted rest? i don't buy the desire argument. 99% of me doesn't buy the "i didn't decide whether or not i was going to retire until 42 games deep" argument. so whats left? rest. they aren't ancient but are no spring chickens. hockey is a demanding game and can be very hard on the body. so this extra time off will help their stamina in the long run, no doubt.

if lidstrom and zetterberg sat out 42 games and then came back and lit the NHL on fire, MOST of the fans of other teams would be pissed. and although i would be glad to have them back, i'd be a little pissed they sat back and watched the team struggle for 3 months.

just wondering how you feel about the move, aside from the fact that having them back pleases you a great deal. THANKS!

At first i was really mad that they could do that to the team. Especially scott. But then I guess i got a little used to the fact that both of them did not know what they wanted to do. And some times when i watch scott playing it still crosses my mind that he took so long. Not sure how i will feel about Teemu when I see him playing. Also I think that it wasent "rest" it was seeing if they are still able and wanted to play or not. It takes longer for some i mean look at forsberg.

Edited January 28, 2008 by Duck Guy

[wingslogo19 281]

Foresberg signing with the Wings (while similar) is still different due to the Ducks cap situation. Had Niedermayer or Teemu played this entire season they wouldn't have been able to get everyone under the cap.

As well Forsberg was injured and trying to see if he could come back to play. I never heard of anything about scott or Teemu saying that they were injured