OsGOD 3 Report post Posted February 1, 2008 (edited) we took a risk on bert who didn't play for a half a season (let me rephrase that... KNOWING he was not going to play for a while after we got him)... i think we should afford the same opportunity to Petr Edited February 1, 2008 by OsGOD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings_Dynasty 267 Report post Posted February 1, 2008 I'm all for it if he can be had for less than $4mil with incentives. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted February 1, 2008 The risk of going after Forsberg is that we might pass up on someone like Sundin or Hossa, and then Forsberg will get hurt for us, meaning that we lost out on some good players taking him instead. But the risk in that is the players the Wings will have to give up in order to acquire Sundin or Hossa. Besides, Forsberg won't command much of a salary. Even with him, the Wings will still have roughly $4.3 million ($11+ million in non-prorated salary) to spend if they so choose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hak 21 Report post Posted February 1, 2008 I would assume wingsfan40 was referring to the non-prorated figure. Meaning the Wings can sign players with a yearly salary totaling $14 million come the trade deadline. Its been reported that Forsberg is looking for a multi-year deal. I'm not sure if I believe this. I've been following forsbergs status for quite a while but I've never heard this other than speculations. Do you have a source or quote? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted February 1, 2008 I'm not sure if I believe this. I've been following forsbergs status for quite a while but I've never heard this other than speculations. Do you have a source or quote? I'll have to do some digging, but I believe his agent was quoted saying that Forsberg wants a multi-year deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted February 1, 2008 Now that I think about it, wouldn't it be possible for the Wings to sign Floppa and then trade him immediately for Hossa or Sundin? I don't think there's anything in the rules against that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,153 Report post Posted February 1, 2008 Foppa coming to the wings, really limits the chances of D-Mac coming back to the wings, Not enough roster spots to go around. Maybe we could ship out Sammy and Franzen for a solid d-man? i could only wish. ...Lets see, Peter Forsberg or Darren McCarty... ...that doesn't even warrent a comment. Sign Forsberg (if he'll come) and then package Hudler to LA for Blake... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted February 1, 2008 (edited) Now that I think about it, wouldn't it be possible for the Wings to sign Floppa and then trade him immediately for Hossa or Sundin? I don't think there's anything in the rules against that. Are you being sarcastic? If not, the reason the Wings brass would never do that is it would result in no other UFA wanting to sign with Detroit again. Sign and trade is *beyond* frowned upon. Edited February 1, 2008 by Never Forget Mac #25 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted February 1, 2008 Are you being sarcastic? If not, the reason the Wings brass would never do that is it would result in no other UFA wanting to sign with Detroit again. Sign and trade is *beyond* frowned upon. Hey, if Brian Burke can pull some shady tactics to try to win the Cup, the Wings will just have to outdo him. Besides, I don't give a s*** about Floppa, so I don't object to him being treated that way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akustyk 84 Report post Posted February 1, 2008 say no to "3 months per season" players who spend most of the year on Bahamas farting into hot sand on the beach and then decide they find desire to play hockey (read: pay the land tax for their own island) NHL should introduce new rules that prevent players from doing this stuff. period Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ruarc' 2 Report post Posted February 2, 2008 (edited) The risk of going after Forsberg is that we might pass up on someone like Sundin or Hossa, and then Forsberg will get hurt for us, meaning that we lost out on some good players taking him instead. I personally want very little to do with Hossa, and absolutely nothing to do with Sundin. The price these two are going to command will be ludicrous. I don't understand how adding a guy like Mats in exchange for Filpulla, Hudler or even a combination of both (plus prospects?) would be beneficial to this organization. Look, the Stanley Cup's not a lock if he were to be acquired. And let's face it, he wouldn't stick around...he's stricktly a rental. (To those who suggest "he might"; is that really money well spent?) Honestly if your going to spend, why not lock up a younger guy? Someone we can continue to build around, someone a little like Hossa. But then again, Hollands entire logic is to stockpile depth and this would only be counterproductive. I'm not saying a deal won't be done, but I can assure you the only reason one does get done is if it ABSOLUTELY makes sense. Sundin don't, Hossa might and Forsberg does. Edited February 2, 2008 by ruarc' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pskov Wings Fan 71 Report post Posted February 2, 2008 Hey, if Brian Burke can pull some shady tactics to try to win the Cup, the Wings will just have to outdo him. Besides, I don't give a s*** about Floppa, so I don't object to him being treated that way. Alienating players is hardly a good way to win the Cup. What I like about Red Wings organization is that they do not allow themselves to sink down to the Burke level. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted February 2, 2008 I don't understand how adding a guy like Mats in exchange for Filpulla, Hudler or even a combination of both (plus prospects?) would be beneficial to this organization. Um, because Sundin -- even in this late stage in his career -- is infinitely more valuable than Hudler, and possibly even Flip, will ever be? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ruarc' 2 Report post Posted February 2, 2008 Um, because Sundin -- even in this late stage in his career -- is infinitely more valuable than Hudler, and possibly even Flip, will ever be? sound reasoning... i question how brilliant this would look if we had none of the three to start the 08-09 season however. everyones bitching about secondary scoring now. seriously, "infinitely more valuable"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted February 2, 2008 For the record, I probably wouldn't ship Flip for Sundin. Certainly not both Flip and Hudler -- unless the Wings were guaranteed at least two seasons of service from Sundin. That said, Sundin is a huge body, a consistently dangerous scoring threat, a top-notch leader, a great veteran presence, and as clutch as they come -- and he never takes a night off. Hudler will never be as valuable. He's a good player and is a lot of fun to watch when he has room with the puck, but he'll never be an all-around Force to Be Reckoned With like Sundin is. Flip has greater potential, I feel, but even his upside doesn't scale Sundin-like heights. Bottom line, he's a a guy who can step right into the lineup and have an immediate -- and huge -- impact. Think of how dangerous our top 6 is right now. Now imagine swapping in Sundin -- who just so happens to be on an absolute tear this season, and on a horrid Leafs team, no less -- for Hudler or Sammy. ZDH followed up by Flip-Sundin-Cleary? That's a living nightmare for any shutdown unit out there -- even Anaheim's. And, while I don't believe in sure things in the NHL, it pretty much screams "Cup." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedFX 48 Report post Posted February 2, 2008 Listening to talk radio on the way home, but word is Nashville is one of the teams currently talking to Forsberg. If this is true, I really didn't see this coming. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vangvace 12 Report post Posted February 2, 2008 I'm not sure if I believe this. I've been following forsbergs status for quite a while but I've never heard this other than speculations. Do you have a source or quote? most of the stateside media is saying that he is looking for a modest two or three year deal. Following are from yahoo story Forsberg told his agent, Don Baizley, to start entertaining offers from NHL teams for a "modest" two-year deal. But the Red Wings have taken two runs at Forsberg previously and he hasn't shown interest in joining the perennial Stanley Cup contender. I believe he'll go elsewhere and I'm A-OK with that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hak 21 Report post Posted February 2, 2008 most of the stateside media is saying that he is looking for a modest two or three year deal. Following are from yahoo story I believe he'll go elsewhere and I'm A-OK with that. I see. It's just that there has been so much speculation around forsberg i am often sceptical unless i see a direct quote or reliable source. For me he's more like "let's see how my foot turns out before we decide anything" ... "one step in the time" etc but he has also said that he as plenty of gas still in the tank so i guess its not a big suprise Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2probert4 8 Report post Posted February 2, 2008 I would assume wingsfan40 was referring to the non-prorated figure. Meaning the Wings can sign players with a yearly salary totaling $14 million come the trade deadline. Its been reported that Forsberg is looking for a multi-year deal. I posted in another thread that I heard 1.75 for this season, and 3 to 3.5 for next year. Home Ice on XM Radio was the source. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted February 2, 2008 Listening to talk radio on the way home, but word is Nashville is one of the teams currently talking to Forsberg. If this is true, I really didn't see this coming. Why the hell would he want to go to that rathole? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
