stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted February 12, 2008 On an under performing Edmonton team, that could definitely use some picks after losing their number 1 in the Penner deal, had a decent year in 05-06, but hasn't torn it up in Edmonton - Right handed shot and not too expensive at 2.2, still pretty young and TONS of upside, decent size and pretty scrappy, would make a good 2nd line guy Could probably get him for a pick and a prospect thoughts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grittzkey 1 Report post Posted February 12, 2008 Id enjoy having him on our squad, But i dont see it happening. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OsGOD 3 Report post Posted February 12, 2008 I read this and thought Jared Boll oh well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted February 12, 2008 (edited) I only seeing Stoll going to a team that A) nevermind I was being an asshat!!! B) is willing to send a lot back to EDM Neither of those categories do I see Det falling into. I think Holland will hold onto pieces like Huds, Flip, Lils, and Lebda. While I wouldn't mind seeing him trade Huds or Lils for a major piece (Hossa ie) Stoll is not that major of a piece and I think EDM would be dumb not to ask for Huds or Flip in return as they are more likely to be a cheaper option for EDM, who will probably look to make another splash in the RFA or UFA market. Edited February 12, 2008 by Opie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grittzkey 1 Report post Posted February 12, 2008 I read this and thought Jared Boll oh well. You got a man crush :D :D jk jk jk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
babygorilla 1 Report post Posted February 12, 2008 Like the kid. Good up side. Type of tempo player that generally plays for a long time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OsGOD 3 Report post Posted February 12, 2008 You got a man crush :D :D jk jk jk Nooooo.... Well maybe a little Dude is tough and he can get some goals and assists. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yzerfan1999 81 Report post Posted February 12, 2008 I would love to have Stoll on the Wings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted February 12, 2008 Hasn't he been in the doghouse a lot this year? If so, then why would we want Edmonton's leftovers? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yzerfan1999 81 Report post Posted February 12, 2008 Hasn't he been in the doghouse a lot this year? If so, then why would we want Edmonton's leftovers? I dont know...I watch the guy play every other night here in Edmonton and he always gives a Dan Cleary like effort and has a hell of a shot (nice to replace Sammy on the 2nd PP?). MacTavish is a s***ty coach - I wouldn't bank too much on his opinion of the guy. Stoll is a potential 20 goal 50-60 pt man in this league. He had some concussion problems last year and this year he seems off, but the year before he had 60+pts and he's still young. I'd be willing to send a couple picks or prospects for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
calfan 0 Report post Posted February 12, 2008 Hasn't he been in the doghouse a lot this year? If so, then why would we want Edmonton's leftovers? By that logic, isn't anyone who is available in the trade market someone's leftovers? If they are available, they don't fit into the team's plans for the future. Also, by that logic, St. Louis never picks up Brett Hull from Calgary. He was in the Flames doghouse and wasn't going to get out any time soon. Edmonton needs more from Stoll than what they are getting this year. That's not necessarily to say he hasn't delivered, but they need more points production. Perhaps in Detroit where scoring isn't such an issue he's better able to just be Jarret Stoll. Hard working, excellent on face-offs, fast, tough, team player. You're right, why would the Wings want that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
up2here 41 Report post Posted February 12, 2008 Hasn't he been in the doghouse a lot this year? If so, then why would we want Edmonton's leftovers? Dan Cleary was in Edmonton's dog house. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted February 12, 2008 By that logic, isn't anyone who is available in the trade market someone's leftovers? If they are available, they don't fit into the team's plans for the future. Also, by that logic, St. Louis never picks up Brett Hull from Calgary. He was in the Flames doghouse and wasn't going to get out any time soon. Edmonton needs more from Stoll than what they are getting this year. That's not necessarily to say he hasn't delivered, but they need more points production. Perhaps in Detroit where scoring isn't such an issue he's better able to just be Jarret Stoll. Hard working, excellent on face-offs, fast, tough, team player. You're right, why would the Wings want that. that was my exact train of thought, I think he would be a great fit here... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted February 12, 2008 By that logic, isn't anyone who is available in the trade market someone's leftovers? If they are available, they don't fit into the team's plans for the future. Also, by that logic, St. Louis never picks up Brett Hull from Calgary. He was in the Flames doghouse and wasn't going to get out any time soon. Edmonton needs more from Stoll than what they are getting this year. That's not necessarily to say he hasn't delivered, but they need more points production. Perhaps in Detroit where scoring isn't such an issue he's better able to just be Jarret Stoll. Hard working, excellent on face-offs, fast, tough, team player. You're right, why would the Wings want that. I wouldn't call Sundin or Hossa leftovers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted February 12, 2008 Dan Cleary was in Edmonton's dog house. well put... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GermanRedWing 0 Report post Posted February 12, 2008 I´d take him. He´ll be an huge upgrade over Samuelsson on the PP. Might be able to score 20+ goals regularly, can play PK and is great on faceoffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sixer 37 Report post Posted February 12, 2008 Would love to have him as well! Trade Samuelsson for him asap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
96Homer 0 Report post Posted February 12, 2008 I totally agree, trade Sammy for Stoll, make it happen Kenny!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted February 13, 2008 I totally agree, trade Sammy for Stoll, make it happen Kenny!! Sammy would get booeed out of their building every game. The JLA is too quiet for him, so he's pretty fortunate in that regard. He wouldn't get so lucky playing in Canada. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
calfan 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2008 I wouldn't call Sundin or Hossa leftovers. Neither would I. Players are moved to make both teams better in the eyes of the GM. Sometimes they are looking to get better in the short term and sometimes better in the long term. Sometimes they trade because they can't afford to lose an asset to UFA, sometimes they trade because of depth (too much or lack thereof). Once the trade is done, the second guessing can begin. I don't think Jarret Stoll will ever be a leading offensive threat on any team. But I think he is a second to third line player that would be a good fit on any team and a particularly good asset to the Wings based on my perceptions of what the Wings are missing to be a Cup winner (and its not much). Edmonton will want a roster player or a prospect and some picks for Stoll. They'll want someone with speed and they'll want someone who's physical. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lou_Siffer 1 Report post Posted February 13, 2008 I think im going to need explaining on exactly why Edmonton would trade Stoll for Sammy. Even if Stoll's in the doghouse, we're still talking about a non playoff team trading a 25 yr old who's scored 20 goals for a guy who's alot older and has no upside. At least with the Ryder suggestions, although he clearly has more value than Sammy, Montreal is a playoff team so they'd probably want a roster player in return for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted February 13, 2008 I think im going to need explaining on exactly why Edmonton would trade Stoll for Sammy. Even if Stoll's in the doghouse, we're still talking about a non playoff team trading a 25 yr old who's scored 20 goals for a guy who's alot older and has no upside. At least with the Ryder suggestions, although he clearly has more value than Sammy, Montreal is a playoff team so they'd probably want a roster player in return for him. Well, Babcock said that Sammy is "elite", so it must be true. Besides, Edmonton would obtain an athlete who's used to winning and playing with great players. Alright, I can't go on like this anymore with a straight face. I'm gonna stop writing now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedFX 48 Report post Posted February 13, 2008 Plus, when we get Stoll, Rachel Hunter shows up in the stands.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted February 13, 2008 Plus, when we get Stoll, Rachel Hunter shows up in the stands.... Are they dating or something? That might sway my whole opinion on us getting Stoll. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedFX 48 Report post Posted February 13, 2008 Are they dating or something? That might sway my whole opinion on us getting Stoll. The last I heard they still were. She also was dating Avery a while back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
