Tootoo at it again

[therock48880 14]

Its annoying that he is a pretty good fighter, and I haven't seen him get railed that many times. But when he does...oh boy.

That kid is going to get the sh*t kicked out of him one day...either that or a career ending hit. What goes around comes around...eventually.

This might make you feel better.

[dallas27 7]

Wrong, and wrong. People aren't going to cross-check Tootoo in the face when they come after him. In general, they plan to drop their gloves, and proceed to engage him in a fair fight. The little ***** won't do it unless it's on his terms though.

Thanks for proving more that most everyone on this board thinks that a good clean hit that someone throws that is not on the Red Wings is dirty or whatever. It was a clean hit. What he did after was dirty but not that check.

[seeinred 1,488]

Thanks for proving more that most everyone on this board thinks that a good clean hit that someone throws that is not on the Red Wings is dirty or whatever. It was a clean hit. What he did after was dirty but not that check.

What? What secret code is coming from my post where I said that?

In reality, the issue of clean or dirty is kind of moot when it comes to the retribution for it. He hurt one of their players on a very questionable hit, and he should have had to fight for it. It must be since he's such an awesome fighter that he threw that cross-check to the face so he wouldn't have to embarrass him in a fair fight

You don't see alot of Nashville games do you?

I don't watch every game of theirs but I do watch them on Center Ice occasionally. Sure, Tootoo will square off sometimes, maybe even most of the time, I'm not sure. But this, the Robidas incident, and the couple times I've seen him actually throwing punches before the other guy even knows there's going to be a fight is more than enough to earn him the sobriquet "little *****"

Edited March 8, 2008 by SeeinRed

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

Thanks for proving more that most everyone on this board thinks that a good clean hit that someone throws that is not on the Red Wings is dirty or whatever. It was a clean hit. What he did after was dirty but not that check.

So the opinion of one person proves what most everyone here thinks??

The hit was borderline. And Tootoo got a 5 minute boarding major for it. The crosscheck after it was typical Tootoo garbage.

[2probert4 8]

Haven't seen the play, so I can't really comment on that. To me though, it sounds like JT was frustrated and he lost his cool. Looking at the boxscore, it looks like there was a pretty big brawl that followed shortly after that, so I wonder if his hit had anything to do with that.

Like I said before, Tootoo plays with alot of intensity. Sometimes that's a good thing, sometimes thats a bad thing. If he ever learns to control his emotion, he could have a solid career.

He will never be more than what he is... no offensive skills, not a good shut down player, no desire to work on his game, just the stupid cheap shot crap. He'll get his someday...

[2probert4 8]

You don't see alot of Nashville games do you?

I do watch them often, and not all of Tootoo's hits are cheap. Most of them are borderline because he leaves his feet often when he's throwing the elbow, which is a no-no. More often than not, his fights aren't an even start, its cross check, drop em and swing. They had told him to pick his spots, but as of late he is back to his old ways. They have tried more than once to jumpstart his offense by pairing him with the top 2 lines, and it's not worked well at all. If the guy can't at least get some assists with Kariya on his line..... Or Legwand and Radulov........nuff said. He is on the way to becoming another Avery. Well at least Avery scores..

[Bertmondi 19]

I was at that game and what the replay doesn't show is the 40 foot wind up Tootoo took before he hit Miller. Whether the hit itself (along the boards) was clean doesn't make up for the wild wind up he took and that was reflect in the 5 minute penalty for charging he was awarded. I am quite surprised he wasn't suspended. Such a garbage play, with such little time left in the game. A game that was clearly decided.

Way too go Tootoo you no skill hack.

[seeinred 1,488]

I was at that game and what the replay doesn't show is the 40 foot wind up Tootoo took before he hit Miller. Whether the hit itself (along the boards) was clean doesn't make up for the wild wind up he took and that was reflect in the 5 minute penalty for charging he was awarded. I am quite surprised he wasn't suspended. Such a garbage play, with such little time left in the game. A game that was clearly decided.

Way too go Tootoo you no skill hack.

The penalty actually was for boarding, but as the hit was delivered, the Vancouver announcers were livid, saying it was a charge. Don't forget that boarding doesn't have to be a hit from behind, it's anytime a player throws another violently into the boards, and I guess a charge could be boarding.

[umredwing11 2]

I dont know if THIS has been posted yet, but I am having second thoughts about having Lidstrom return on Sunday against the Preds. If that team was taking runs/shooting pucks at players' heads, I don't want Lidstrom out there, especially if Tootoo is running rampid out there.

[KronwallCRUNCH 5]

I would applaud if someone ended his career. Same with Pronger.

[SouthernWingsFan 854]

First off, I'm a Nashville fan, and your claim is actually the other way around. Most of them are pure-hockey lovers, many of my friends and people I meet at games are that way. There are a few people that are in it just for blood, but there's people like that in every NHL city. I'm sure there were a bunch of people in Vancouver that got pumped from watching Bertuzzi pummel Moore and I'm sure a bunch of people on the Island were happy seeing Simon slash Hollweg. Don't single out one city or group of fans.

Definitely won't paint a broad generalization of your fans at all, and I'm glad you responded in defense that some, or perhaps a good chunk of, the fan base is not like that.

As for Tootoo...

I don't ever wish or want bad things to happen to people, not even public enemy #1's in here such as Pronger, Tootoo, Perry, Giguere, Foresberg, or whomever else.

I certainly like when people play intense and on edge. Tootoo though is going to eventually get what is coming for him with his "retributal" crap and antics hitting people from behind or cross checking in the face or whatever. I hope it doesn't come to that but he's asking for it with his reckless style of play.

I know he has to have some skill level or hockey I.Q. or he wouldn't be playing in the NHL, but I'm losing respect for him more and more.

People give Pronger here a lot of s**t on here, some deserved and some undeserved and overdramatized, but I can at least respect him to a good degree because he is one of the better defensemen in this league and doesn't just blatantly going out trying to chop people's heads off all the time.

Tootoo just runs around like a chicken with his head cut off when he's on the ice.

[HudlerRULES 0]

Where is Chris Simon when you need him.... OR thank God Chris Simon and TooToo aren't on the same team

[dallas27 7]

What? What secret code is coming from my post where I said that?

In reality, the issue of clean or dirty is kind of moot when it comes to the retribution for it. He hurt one of their players on a very questionable hit, and he should have had to fight for it. It must be since he's such an awesome fighter that he threw that cross-check to the face so he wouldn't have to embarrass him in a fair fight

Besides the fact that you said wrong? From that replay it appears as if he takes 2 strides, which he is allowed (at least I think it's 2 strides) and checks the guy. I could care less what he does after it, my beef is with people saying it was a dirty hit, but from that replay it was a clean hit.

Edited March 8, 2008 by dallas27

[dallas27 7]

So the opinion of one person proves what most everyone here thinks??

I'm going by what I have seen in the thread.

The hit was borderline. And Tootoo got a 5 minute boarding major for it. The crosscheck after it was typical Tootoo garbage.

As I said above this, going by that replay it looks like he took a couple strides, his shoulder was down, and he hit someone. *edit* His hands were at his chest too. When the other guy is hunched over of course it's going to look like Tootoo hit him high.

Edited March 8, 2008 by dallas27

[RedFX 48]

I do watch them often, and not all of Tootoo's hits are cheap. Most of them are borderline because he leaves his feet often when he's throwing the elbow, which is a no-no. More often than not, his fights aren't an even start, its cross check, drop em and swing. They had told him to pick his spots, but as of late he is back to his old ways. They have tried more than once to jumpstart his offense by pairing him with the top 2 lines, and it's not worked well at all. If the guy can't at least get some assists with Kariya on his line..... Or Legwand and Radulov........nuff said. He is on the way to becoming another Avery. Well at least Avery scores..

I never remember seeing Kariya paired with Tootoo. Kariya was always with Legwand and Erat. Nichol played on the line briefly when Erat was hurt and both Radulov and Peverley had some time with Kariya, but Tootoo was never on a regular line with him.

My original response was about people immediately dropping the gloves in retalliation. Tootoo always seems to get nailed immediately after a big hit, even if its clean. Mayers clobbered him from behind after a whistle. Carcillo actually stopped, then skated back and closelined him after a hit. Adam Foote grabbed him by his neck and pummeled him. Its kinda hard to give people respect during fights when you keep getting blindsided whenever you touch a guy.

Interesting note, Tootoo has been in 6 fights. In 3 of them, the guy he was fighting picked up an instigator, so I don't know about the fair start comment.

[dallas27 7]

A username that is Valtteri Filppula is on this thread right now. I'm not making any connection between that and his facebook.....or am I?

[2probert4 8]

I blame the Nashville fans (some of the worst in the NHL if you ask me) for at least half of what Tootoo does. Them and their retarded Tootoo whistles everytime he does something stupid. I'm sure there are some good hockey fans in Nashville, but I get the impression that most of them are Nascar watching typical TV watching Americans who just want to see blood. It's the same reason why NASCAR is so popular, because of the wrecks.

The Nashville owners know this and they know that Tootoo is a fan favorite. They know he sells seats to people who just want to see someone's face get kicked in over seeing a pretty tic tac toe pass one timer goal or a Datsyukian Toe Drag breakaway.

His background is no excuse for his inability to play the game of hockey as it is designed to be played. His lack of hockey skills are substituted by aggression and stupid antics.

If anything his inuit background should make him more humble and willing to appreciate that he has the phyiscal genes and ability to play professional hockey and all the benefits being a professional athelete comes with. Instead he's just a goon.

Their fans don't dictate how Tootoo plays, it's all on him. Section 303 is a group of idiots who have used the same junior high cheers for 10 years now. The Predators could be losing 10-0 and they would still say the opposing goalie sucks......There are fans of every team who attend games to see a fight, its not just those people. Those whistles are stupid, and I have heard Predator fans in the Sommet Center say that, and it was everyone around where I was sitting. Many of their fans are starting to recognize that Tootoo's antics do cost them at times, especially in the playoff series vs San Jose.

[2probert4 8]

I never remember seeing Kariya paired with Tootoo. Kariya was always with Legwand and Erat. Nichol played on the line briefly when Erat was hurt and both Radulov and Peverley had some time with Kariya, but Tootoo was never on a regular line with him.

My original response was about people immediately dropping the gloves in retalliation. Tootoo always seems to get nailed immediately after a big hit, even if its clean. Mayers clobbered him from behind after a whistle. Carcillo actually stopped, then skated back and closelined him after a hit. Adam Foote grabbed him by his neck and pummeled him. Its kinda hard to give people respect during fights when you keep getting blindsided whenever you touch a guy.

Interesting note, Tootoo has been in 6 fights. In 3 of them, the guy he was fighting picked up an instigator, so I don't know about the fair start comment.

Instigator can be any type of action, such as a verbal challenge, shove or bump...its a judgement call by the linesman. Tootoo was paired with Kariya during each season Kariya was with Nashville, some times longer than others, they have this vision of Tootoo being a great all around player, which he will never be. (willie dunnic will argue that with you for hours) As for the Adam Foote thing, Tootoo had been taking liberties with Nash and Zherdev earlier and when Foote asked him to dance, Tootoo decided that Foote could win so he declined, Foote didn't care and pummelled him. As for the Carcillo incident, Hordichuk took care of that one. For every example that you list above, we can find 2 things that Tootoo has done.

[2probert4 8]

Definitely won't paint a broad generalization of your fans at all, and I'm glad you responded in defense that some, or perhaps a good chunk of, the fan base is not like that.

As for Tootoo...

I don't ever wish or want bad things to happen to people, not even public enemy #1's in here such as Pronger, Tootoo, Perry, Giguere, Foresberg, or whomever else.

I certainly like when people play intense and on edge. Tootoo though is going to eventually get what is coming for him with his "retributal" crap and antics hitting people from behind or cross checking in the face or whatever. I hope it doesn't come to that but he's asking for it with his reckless style of play.

I know he has to have some skill level or hockey I.Q. or he wouldn't be playing in the NHL, but I'm losing respect for him more and more.

People give Pronger here a lot of s**t on here, some deserved and some undeserved and overdramatized, but I can at least respect him to a good degree because he is one of the better defensemen in this league and doesn't just blatantly going out trying to chop people's heads off all the time.

Tootoo just runs around like a chicken with his head cut off when he's on the ice.

Pronger is a good player, hes one of the Top 3 defenseman in the world, and makes a difference each time he steps on the ice, and yes he does get dirty and yes hes one of the most hated players in hockey. Big difference between a former MVP and Norris winner, and a hack who probably won't last another 5 years in the NHL.

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

Pronger is a good player, hes one of the Top 3 defenseman in the world, and makes a difference each time he steps on the ice, and yes he does get dirty and yes hes one of the most hated players in hockey. Big difference between a former MVP and Norris winner, and a hack who probably won't last another 5 years in the NHL.

Exactly.

As much as I hate Pronger, the guy is a great defenseman. The NHL would not miss Tootoo one bit.

[Guest LivingtheDream]

Tootoo is really a shame. Some time ago I saw the EPSN special on him and his brother who killed himself after getting a drunk driving ticket and thinking his budding hockey career was history. As the first Inuit player in the NHL, I am not certain he is living up to the type of admiration or respect he might. Sure, you could say he only represents himself, but he seemed to think he was representing more than that in that special.

[Never_Retire_Steve 35]

too funny!

they should take turns cross checking each other in the back

lol

[Deke 0]

Their fans don't dictate how Tootoo plays, it's all on him. Section 303 is a group of idiots who have used the same junior high cheers for 10 years now. The Predators could be losing 10-0 and they would still say the opposing goalie sucks......There are fans of every team who attend games to see a fight, its not just those people. Those whistles are stupid, and I have heard Predator fans in the Sommet Center say that, and it was everyone around where I was sitting. Many of their fans are starting to recognize that Tootoo's antics do cost them at times, especially in the playoff series vs San Jose.

Fan's don't dictate play, you're right. The point I'm trying to make is that I don't think Tootoo would be playing for Nashville if he wasn't a fan favorite in Nashville. They yell TOO TOO! and blow whistles everytime he hits someone cheap or not. It's sad.

The arguement I'm making is that if tootoo wasn't a fan favorite and therefore didn't sell seats, he wouldn't have a spot on the preds team. Either that or the coach doesn't have the balls to sit him until he plays right.

Tootoo's only contribution is smashing people and intimidation. Without that he's nothing and couldn't even earn a spot on a CHL team.

[arnoldbuck 0]

Tootoo is really a shame. Some time ago I saw the EPSN special on him and his brother who killed himself after getting a drunk driving ticket and thinking his budding hockey career was history. As the first Inuit player in the NHL, I am not certain he is living up to the type of admiration or respect he might. Sure, you could say he only represents himself, but he seemed to think he was representing more than that in that special.

I know, I saw something similar when he first made the NHL on CBC. It was all about how he was the first, and he was going to represent his peoples. And beyond just Inuit, but much of the 1st nations cultures. But he really is disappointing. I mean, I understand that the guy was never going to be a gifted goals scorer/ playmaker, etc. But that doesnt mean you have to go around like a F*ckin moron waving your stick like a spear. He is a player I would hate to play against. Not cuz he is tough, not cuz he plays hard, but because his reckless, careless, thoughtless play would have me worried if I was going to leave the ice with an injury.

I know Tootoo has no way of ever reading stuff like this, but I wish for his sake, the sake of those he plays against, and the culture he supposably represents that he would clean up his game. But, not going to happen. And it is a shame.

[Yellowknife Redwing 57]

I used to play hockey against Jordin in tournaments (in the NWT) when he was about 16 and this kind of thing doesn't surprise me one bit. He's always been a big time competitor but he doesn't know where to draw the line when it comes to the after-the-whistle antics and dirty plays. The fact that guys like Tootoo and Downey can repeatedly get away with this kind of trash is a clear indication that the "enforcer" has been all but eliminated from the NHL. The Semenko-Gretzky type of dynamic has been missing more and more every year and it's becoming a serious problem. Accountability is something that needs to return to the league in a big hurry.

As for Tootoo's upbringing: get a grip. There are NHL players that come from far worse places than Rankin Inlet and have endured far worse. I don't discount the fact that being the first Inuit player in the league is an accomplishment, but lets not forget that there are players from war-torn areas of Eastern Europe who have been around a lot longer than this punk.