Never_Retire_Steve 35 Report post Posted March 8, 2008 It's too bad because I think that he could be a good offensive player if he concentrated on offense rather than being an agitator. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Donaldjr2448 43 Report post Posted March 9, 2008 Like I have said before about this looser!! He will NEVER drop the gloves with a true fighter! Just watch tomorrow, if Downey says lets go punk, he'll run away and let girly hardisuck clean up his mess! PooPoo is a puss and we all know it, yeah sure sure he has been in fights, and sure he has won, but how many of those fights have been fights against true fighters, the correct answer is 0!! Thats ok because in about 2 weeks the Washington Capitals visit Nashville and I'm sure Mr. Brashear would love to take on that little punk, but we all know that PooPoo will not fight him!!!! Oh Adam Footes round with PooPoo was priceless!! He picked him up by the throat and then beat him like a red headed step child!! GREAT STUFF!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted March 9, 2008 As much as I hate seeing people injured on cheap shots, players like Tootoo and Pronger really make rivalries worth while, just because you want your team to beat them that much more. If there were no goons in the league, it would definitely be a lot safer, but it would probably be more boring also. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LivingtheDream Report post Posted March 9, 2008 As for Tootoo's upbringing: get a grip. There are NHL players that come from far worse places than Rankin Inlet and have endured far worse. I don't discount the fact that being the first Inuit player in the league is an accomplishment, but lets not forget that there are players from war-torn areas of Eastern Europe who have been around a lot longer than this punk. Not sure if you are talking to me or arnoldbuck. No grip needs to be gotten here. I think we are saying the same thing - he can't claim the "honor" of being the first Inuit and yet play so dishonorably and you are right that many others have come up from tough times and not been, well, not been a gaping ******* like Tootoo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RainingBlood 8 Report post Posted March 9, 2008 Ugh I hope someone breaks his knees. I never want to wish injury on someone but I think he is the exception to the rule Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedFX 48 Report post Posted March 9, 2008 Fan's don't dictate play, you're right. The point I'm trying to make is that I don't think Tootoo would be playing for Nashville if he wasn't a fan favorite in Nashville. They yell TOO TOO! and blow whistles everytime he hits someone cheap or not. It's sad. The arguement I'm making is that if tootoo wasn't a fan favorite and therefore didn't sell seats, he wouldn't have a spot on the preds team. Either that or the coach doesn't have the balls to sit him until he plays right. Tootoo's only contribution is smashing people and intimidation. Without that he's nothing and couldn't even earn a spot on a CHL team. Wrong again. Tootoo has been in Trotz's doghouse alot over his time in Nashville. He spent a great deal of time in the minors a few years back after Trotz thought he wasn't playing smart. He was benched last year for a while to after the same thing. Trotz has played him this year because his game has improved. He's already got a career high in all of his major offensive categories. Trust me, Trotz is not afraid to bench one of his players. Ask Ryan Suter or Marek Zidlicky Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ladypredsfan 0 Report post Posted March 9, 2008 I can't believe you are still complaining about Tootoo. If you want "dirty" players, looks at the Flyers. How many games have their players missed due to suspensions? Besides the players should know not to mess with Tootoo - anybody who is tough enough to hunt walrus and caribou for food - is not someone to mess with!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deke 0 Report post Posted March 9, 2008 Wrong again. Tootoo has been in Trotz's doghouse alot over his time in Nashville. He spent a great deal of time in the minors a few years back after Trotz thought he wasn't playing smart. He was benched last year for a while to after the same thing. Trotz has played him this year because his game has improved. He's already got a career high in all of his major offensive categories. Trust me, Trotz is not afraid to bench one of his players. Ask Ryan Suter or Marek Zidlicky He has 15 points, -9 +/- and 83 pims, that's pretty terrible for anyone that's not supposed to be a so-called enforcer. If the coach wanted offense, there is no reason for any coach to play him with the numbers he puts up. You could put just about any other young player in and get better production with a whole lot less pims. I mean samuelson is 3 times better for f***s sake. And that's not saying much. The only thing he contributes is intimidation. Other players are always looking for tootoo on the ice either to avoid him or hit him. If your line is concentrating on tootoo instead of the play, they won't perform at 100%. He's a fan favorite whether you want to admit it or not and that's why he gets ice time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ladypredsfan 0 Report post Posted March 9, 2008 I wish I had a stat on how many penalties he has drawn this season. I'm guessing it is alot more than he has accumulated. If you want to compare stats - you better take a look at your own team: Stuart 21 pts -13 69 PIM Draper 17 -1 64 Lilja 12 0 81 Downey 2 -1 97 I don't think you consider any of these people "enforcers" but their stats aren't that different from Tootoo's Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellowknife Redwing 57 Report post Posted March 9, 2008 I wish I had a stat on how many penalties he has drawn this season. I'm guessing it is alot more than he has accumulated. If you want to compare stats - you better take a look at your own team: Stuart 21 pts -13 69 PIM Draper 17 -1 64 Lilja 12 0 81 Downey 2 -1 97 I don't think you consider any of these people "enforcers" but their stats aren't that different from Tootoo's Stuart came from the basement dwelling Kings, Draper is our #1 shutdown forward and penalty killer and is only a -1, despite playing shorthanded so often, and Downey is an "enforcer" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted March 9, 2008 Stuart came from the basement dwelling Kings, Draper is our #1 shutdown forward and penalty killer and is only a -1, despite playing shorthanded so often, and Downey is an "enforcer" shorthanded goals don't count against +/-, but otherwise you're right on. Stuart is +3 in 3 games with Detroit (probably more after today's game). And Drapes is a great faceoff and shutdown forward, and plays 5 more minutes per game than Tootoo, who is neither. Downey, like Tootoo, is a marginal NHL player. Tootoo is actually more talented than Downey. It's just that he's a total cheapshotting dirtbag whereas Downey makes the most of his limited abilities and even as an enforcer is a respectable hockey player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2probert4 8 Report post Posted March 9, 2008 Like I have said before about this looser!! He will NEVER drop the gloves with a true fighter! Just watch tomorrow, if Downey says lets go punk, he'll run away and let girly hardisuck clean up his mess! PooPoo is a puss and we all know it, yeah sure sure he has been in fights, and sure he has won, but how many of those fights have been fights against true fighters, the correct answer is 0!! Thats ok because in about 2 weeks the Washington Capitals visit Nashville and I'm sure Mr. Brashear would love to take on that little punk, but we all know that PooPoo will not fight him!!!! Oh Adam Footes round with PooPoo was priceless!! He picked him up by the throat and then beat him like a red headed step child!! GREAT STUFF!! I will be in attendance at that game. Secured my ticket this morning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2probert4 8 Report post Posted March 9, 2008 I wish I had a stat on how many penalties he has drawn this season. I'm guessing it is alot more than he has accumulated. If you want to compare stats - you better take a look at your own team: Stuart 21 pts -13 69 PIM Draper 17 -1 64 Lilja 12 0 81 Downey 2 -1 97 I don't think you consider any of these people "enforcers" but their stats aren't that different from Tootoo's None of those guys cross check people in the chest and then drop their mitts. I don't think you hear the things about their styles of play that you do about Tootoo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2probert4 8 Report post Posted March 9, 2008 shorthanded goals don't count against +/-, but otherwise you're right on. Stuart is +3 in 3 games with Detroit (probably more after today's game). And Drapes is a great faceoff and shutdown forward, and plays 5 more minutes per game than Tootoo, who is neither. Downey, like Tootoo, is a marginal NHL player. Tootoo is actually more talented than Downey. It's just that he's a total cheapshotting dirtbag whereas Downey makes the most of his limited abilities and even as an enforcer is a respectable hockey player. Indeed....well said Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy Pred 48 337 Report post Posted March 10, 2008 The Preds are at the Kings on Thursday. Bet he doesn't try any crap there with Ivanans circling around. Still if he did try his stuff with Kopitar or Frolov, there wouldn't be much left for DMac or Downey to chew on come Sat dinner time!! Mind you he's got to get past Shelley and Murray on Tuesday first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2probert4 8 Report post Posted March 10, 2008 Wrong again. Tootoo has been in Trotz's doghouse alot over his time in Nashville. He spent a great deal of time in the minors a few years back after Trotz thought he wasn't playing smart. He was benched last year for a while to after the same thing. Trotz has played him this year because his game has improved. He's already got a career high in all of his major offensive categories. Trust me, Trotz is not afraid to bench one of his players. Ask Ryan Suter or Marek Zidlicky Add Hartnell and Radulov to that list.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b.shanafan14 733 Report post Posted March 10, 2008 Imagine a fight between Lemieux and Tootoo.... it would be disgusting. haha it would be the most cartoonishly dirty fight ever with random incidences where they both turtle i can see it now, Tootoo and Lemieux both throw a handful of dust in the others eye simultaneously, upon being blinded, both hit the turtle, upon recovery both execute a nut shot, again, both turtle, managing to get to their knees, they both rear back with gloved hands and connect with one on the others chin, bloodying both, resulting in instant instinctive turtling and then, shock!.... Tootoo: Dad? Lemieux: SON?! Tootoo/Lemieux: I LOVE YOU! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deke 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2008 (edited) I wish I had a stat on how many penalties he has drawn this season. I'm guessing it is alot more than he has accumulated. That's another pointless arguement. If a player has to basically go outside the lines of the rules to draw penalties, then they aren't playing hockey. Would you really want your team to win a cup on a BS penalty call from drawing a questionable penalty? I know that would cheapen the win for me. But I guess if you're a fan of Tootoo that's how you like your hockey, even if you can call what he plays hockey. I don't. If you want to compare stats - you better take a look at your own team: Stuart 21 pts -13 69 PIM Draper 17 -1 64 Lilja 12 0 81 Downey 2 -1 97 I don't think you consider any of these people "enforcers" but their stats aren't that different from Tootoo's Err, I don't see you're point. You're comparing apples to oranges. Stuart -- Defensemen and came from a different team. Draper -- Injured part of the season, and he's one of the most defensive fowards to ever play the game. With the trophys to back that up. He's almost 100% special teams. If you'd rather have Tootoo than drapes on your team, you're insane. Lilja -- Defensemen Downey is the only valid comparison here and yea, his numbers pretty much suck. Which is why the wings are looking to replace him with Darren McCarty. But to Downey's credit he's a sherrif type enforcer. He doesn't elbow people or throw cheap shots. He makes sure you're gloves are off and want to fight before he throws a punch. He's not some punk ass kid with a bone to pick with everyone and who doesn't care if he ruins someone's career. Tootoo is athletically gifted, there's no doubt. If he focused on generating smart offense rather than smashing skulls, he'd probably be pretty good. Edited March 10, 2008 by Deke Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Never_Retire_Steve 35 Report post Posted March 10, 2008 haha it would be the most cartoonishly dirty fight ever with random incidences where they both turtle i can see it now, Tootoo and Lemieux both throw a handful of dust in the others eye simultaneously, upon being blinded, both hit the turtle, upon recovery both execute a nut shot, again, both turtle, managing to get to their knees, they both rear back with gloved hands and connect with one on the others chin, bloodying both, resulting in instant instinctive turtling and then, shock!.... Tootoo: Dad? Lemieux: SON?! Tootoo/Lemieux: I LOVE YOU! Haha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ladypredsfan 0 Report post Posted March 11, 2008 Add Hartnell and Radulov to that list.... Ahhhhh......Hartnell is a Flyer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Izzy24 44 Report post Posted March 11, 2008 ok so lets go to the hood and bring in some gang bangers and they can start pulling out "gaks" and shooting some foo's up. "Gats" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted March 11, 2008 "Gats" No he meant Gaks, it's a mix breed of a goat and a yak...they are devilish creatures who are very aggressive, not very good skaters IMHO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Inultus 12 Report post Posted March 11, 2008 Holyfield is a good fighter, should the Wings sign him? There's more to hockey than fighting. Sportsmanship is big in the NHL, and intent to injure and fighting the other guy before he knows he's in a fight are qualities I don't want in my game. I never said anything to the effect of appreciating Tootoo's fighting style. I know he's a dirty player. However, people were saying that he doesn't fight and he always turtles. That is simply not true. Tootoo is actually a very good fighter for his size. Doesn't change the fact that he throws dirty hits and cheapshot sucker punches all the time. And no, I would not want him on my team, I don't like dirty play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2probert4 8 Report post Posted March 11, 2008 Ahhhhh......Hartnell is a Flyer. AHHHH He was a Predator, and Trotz did the same to him when he was there.... Thanks for playing, have a nice day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
