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Flashback: Dan Cleary

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I remember reading this when it first came out and I don't care how many times I hear his story, it will never get old. I was really shocked to see that Cleary had gotten a DUI because everything I had seem of him to that point was a responsible, hard-working player. But with that, it is amazing to see how much he has matured and I think that makes me like him even more. He's worked so hard to get where he is today (I love how he always gives props to his wife) and he definitely deserved that new contract. I look forward to seeing him in a Red Wings jersey for (at least) the next five years.

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By then, Cleary had found the person who has made the biggest difference in his life.

"Changed me," Cleary said.

Dan and Jelena Cleary were married June 22, 2004.

Aww

I'm such a softie for love stories. :(

Good read though, Cleary is the s***.

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Cool article. I don't get why they act like a DUI is some horrendous thing that no good person would ever get, though. I don't have a DUI or anything, but I definitely don't look down on people who have gotten one. 3 or 4 is another story though.

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Cool article. I don't get why they act like a DUI is some horrendous thing that no good person would ever get, though. I don't have a DUI or anything, but I definitely don't look down on people who have gotten one. 3 or 4 is another story though.

Because it's like going out on a busy street, closing your eyes, spinning in a circle, and firing a random shot w/ a shotgun. You might hit someone, you might not. Might kills someone, might not. But the fact remains that since so many people do it on a daily basis over 13 thousand people were killed in drunk driving related incidents in 2006. And the number of injuries is undoubtedly far far greater.

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I'll be honest I was disappointed he beat out Kolanoes the year he made the team as a free agent. I had nothing against him I just hoped Kolanoes could ressurect his career surrounded by our talent. But after the calgary series I became a huge fan of his.

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See, here is a guy who had a drunk driving ticket and did he blow his head off with a shotgun? Nope. Why, because his last name wasn't Tootoo. Yea JT, take that you piece of crap human. You want to play diry on the ice, I'm playing dirty on the boards.

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See, here is a guy who had a drunk driving ticket and did he blow his head off with a shotgun? Nope. Why, because his last name wasn't Tootoo. Yea JT, take that you piece of crap human. You want to play diry on the ice, I'm playing dirty on the boards.

That may have been the most douchebag thing I've ever heard anyone say ever.

You can dislike a player all you want, but saying s*** like that is just a ***** move. That without a doubt crossed the line.

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I am a dork and still have that article from the newspaper. I can never hear that story too many times. Here is a guy who was going nowhere and decided to change his life around. Definitely a feel good story... Plus Cleary is my favorite player :)

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I remember hearing that story of Tootoo's brother on cbc and it was the most tragic thing I've heard. Nobody, no matter how much of a ****** bag he is on the ice, deserves to be the last person to see their brother alive right before he kills himself.

I hate Jordin Tootoo just as much as the next person, but lets think before we post things--if you need a reminder of what Tootoo had to go through, take a look at THIS

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I remember hearing that story of Tootoo's brother on cbc and it was the most tragic thing I've heard. Nobody, no matter how much of a ****** bag he is on the ice, deserves to be the last person to see their brother alive right before he kills himself.

I hate Jordin Tootoo just as much as the next person, but lets think before we post things--if you need a reminder of what Tootoo had to go through, take a look at THIS

And something else. Don't call someone 'a piece of crap human' unless you actually know that person. I've actually had the honor of meeting Jordin Tootoo and he's one of the friendliest, most down-to-Earth guys you will meet. Say what you will about someone's play on the ice, but don't comment about their personal life unless you actually know the person, because JT is actually a great person.

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Because it's like going out on a busy street, closing your eyes, spinning in a circle, and firing a random shot w/ a shotgun. You might hit someone, you might not. Might kills someone, might not. But the fact remains that since so many people do it on a daily basis over 13 thousand people were killed in drunk driving related incidents in 2006. And the number of injuries is undoubtedly far far greater.

If it seemed like I was trying to downplay the severity of it, that wasn't my intention. I just mean that it really isn't a life-changing experience for most people I think. It's certainly embarrassing for the people to whom it's happened, and they realize how stupid it was, but it isn't necessarily some catastrophic thing.

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Because it's like going out on a busy street, closing your eyes, spinning in a circle, and firing a random shot w/ a shotgun. You might hit someone, you might not. Might kills someone, might not. But the fact remains that since so many people do it on a daily basis over 13 thousand people were killed in drunk driving related incidents in 2006. And the number of injuries is undoubtedly far far greater.

And over 40,000 people were killed in accidents not related to alcohol. Statistics are skewed. Now I don't deny that sometimes people just get totally wasted and run over someone or drive right into opposing traffic, however the majority of the time that drunk drivers get into accidents the accident isn't even their fault.

And please don't argue with me on that point, it was told to me by my probation officer after I got my DUI.

You sound like a MADD representative. I was drag racing when I got my DUI. Drag racing is dangerous in and of itself. I was also 3.5x the legal limit at that time. Even with all that, I was driving better than most people do sober. I got pulled over for speeding.

Now I don't excuse me drinking and driving, nor do I excuse me drag racing on a main street, however, you equating what I did to playing Russian Roulette is retarded.

I am a bartender so I have DOZENS of friends who have gotten DUIs and the majority of the time these people are fine to drive. Obviously there are exceptions to that. For instance I know a girl who failed a roadside test, yet going by her BAC she was ok to drive.

I just miss the old days where bartenders cared about their customers and wouldn't let them drive drunk, but if they deemed them ok to drive then they would let them go and if the cops pulled them over the cops would generally ask them to go straight home and escort them there.

This whole DUI campaign is about money-grabbing. I know enough judges, lawyers and politicians that I know that for sure. My apologies to anyone who knows someone who was killed by a drunk driver, but I have a friend from childhood who was killed by a NON-drunk driver.

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i dont get the nashville joke at the end? Anyone?

This is a reference to country music lore. It started with Hank Williams and this "line" has been used by many other country music people and lyrics when referring to leaving there hometown headed to the capitail of country music-Nashville, in search of stardom.

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And over 40,000 people were killed in accidents not related to alcohol. Statistics are skewed. Now I don't deny that sometimes people just get totally wasted and run over someone or drive right into opposing traffic, however the majority of the time that drunk drivers get into accidents the accident isn't even their fault.

And please don't argue with me on that point, it was told to me by my probation officer after I got my DUI.

You sound like a MADD representative. I was drag racing when I got my DUI. Drag racing is dangerous in and of itself. I was also 3.5x the legal limit at that time. Even with all that, I was driving better than most people do sober. I got pulled over for speeding.

Now I don't excuse me drinking and driving, nor do I excuse me drag racing on a main street, however, you equating what I did to playing Russian Roulette is retarded.

I am a bartender so I have DOZENS of friends who have gotten DUIs and the majority of the time these people are fine to drive. Obviously there are exceptions to that. For instance I know a girl who failed a roadside test, yet going by her BAC she was ok to drive.

I just miss the old days where bartenders cared about their customers and wouldn't let them drive drunk, but if they deemed them ok to drive then they would let them go and if the cops pulled them over the cops would generally ask them to go straight home and escort them there.

This whole DUI campaign is about money-grabbing. I know enough judges, lawyers and politicians that I know that for sure. My apologies to anyone who knows someone who was killed by a drunk driver, but I have a friend from childhood who was killed by a NON-drunk driver.

Even Sergei Fedorov was arrested for DUI when he was under the legal limit. He blew .09 when the limit was .1 here. Like you said, my grandparents have stories of how the cops used to just make the other person drive or escort them home.

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