Simon Says...

[CAredwingsfan91 28]

tsn

very short article but its about time someone said it.

[OsGOD 3]

... pronger is a lucky tool... take two huge leaps backwards!

Edited March 17, 2008 by OsGOD

[Opie 308]

I never ever thought I would say this, but I agree with and think what Simon is doing is 100% correct.

Not only that I will go so far as to say I think other players should be stepping up and backing him up. I know that won't happen, but it should.

How is there anything different in these situations other than the star power involved.

I agree that Simon's infractions were more severe so a 30 game suspension would be too much for Pronger as he is yet to have two handed a guy across the face, so 20 games. 8 is a joke, like some one said in another thread, it is like a suspension from school, a mini vacation.

[OsGOD 3]

They just gave the Ducks a way to bench "rest him" for the rest of the season without other teams bitching about how the Ducks aren't playing their best players yadda yadda yadda

Lids, Zeta and Dats should also get 8 game suspensions!

[toby91_ca 620]

I never ever thought I would say this, but I agree with and think what Simon is doing is 100% correct.

Not only that I will go so far as to say I think other players should be stepping up and backing him up. I know that won't happen, but it should.

How is there anything different in these situations other than the star power involved.

I agree that Simon's infractions were more severe so a 30 game suspension would be too much for Pronger as he is yet to have two handed a guy across the face, so 20 games. 8 is a joke, like some one said in another thread, it is like a suspension from school, a mini vacation.

I think the two "stomping" incidents are clearly different, but that said, Pronger's suspension is still far too short. I think the fact that there is only so many games left in the season had something to do with it. Then again, they didn't suspend him for the rest of the regular season, why leave that 1 game out there? I think Simon's suspension was too short at 30 games, but assuming that is the right number, Pronger should have received about 15 or so.

[Lovin Jiri Fischer 147]

Pronger is getting well-rested for the playoffs. Instead, he should be forced to play every shift of every game from now till the end of the season all by himself.

[imisssergei 0]

I think the two "stomping" incidents are clearly different, but that said, Pronger's suspension is still far too short. I think the fact that there is only so many games left in the season had something to do with it. Then again, they didn't suspend him for the rest of the regular season, why leave that 1 game out there? I think Simon's suspension was too short at 30 games, but assuming that is the right number, Pronger should have received about 15 or so.

Agreed. The Simon stomp was more severe. However, the fact that we are even talking about another stomping incident in the same season bodes for a long suspension.

Pronger doesn't have anything close to the history that Simon does, I think that worked in Pronger's favor here. He should have gotten more than 8 games. I think Simon has cause for a lawsuit.

[OsGOD 3]

I think Simons should have held a precidence for Stomping suspensions.

There should be a standard... Just like 2 mins for hooking is the same as 2mins for checking from behind. Infractions are grossly unequal yet the the penalty is still the same.

[irishtemper14+25 11]

f*** pronger

[Wings_Dynasty 267]

Simon, although filled with rage most of the time, is a class act next to Pronger. He feels he deserved to get 30 games and Pronger complains about his 8 games and being suspended at all after he was initially cleared.

Should have been 30.

Oh, and IMHO, Pronger's was worse. I would rather have my foot in a skate stomped on than my unprotected calf. And, Pronger stomped harder.

[wingsfan75 2]

I think Mr. Burke has Mr. Bettman on his jock.

[WingFanInOilCountry 0]

The big difference between the 2, is that Simon's was blind rage, where as Pronger saw the oppertunity and took it. And i agree, I would rather get my well protected toe stomped with a skate then the back of my leg, with only a sock protecting it. Pronger definalty should have got at least double what he did. Then again, he should have got more last year in the WCF/SCFs as well.

[lets go pavel 2]

They just gave the Ducks a way to bench "rest him" for the rest of the season without other teams bitching about how the Ducks aren't playing their best players yadda yadda yadda

Lids, Zeta and Dats should also get 8 game suspensions!

well hell, if the ducks just wanted a way to rest him he could have just retired and then come back 8 games later ... i'm sure he's got a couple teammates who could have helped him with the paperwork

[drwscc 212]

Pronger doesn't have anything close to the history that Simon does, I think that worked in Pronger's favor here. He should have gotten more than 8 games. I think Simon has cause for a lawsuit.

Pronger has 8 suspensions. Simon has 8 suspensions. Pronger has been suspended for "kicking" before too.

30 would have been too many for Pronger, but in the realm of 15 games would have been fair. 8 is a joke.

[2probert4 8]

Simon, although filled with rage most of the time, is a class act next to Pronger. He feels he deserved to get 30 games and Pronger complains about his 8 games and being suspended at all after he was initially cleared.

Should have been 30.

Oh, and IMHO, Pronger's was worse. I would rather have my foot in a skate stomped on than my unprotected calf. And, Pronger stomped harder.

When a skate is involved, how is one stomp different from another? Once again Bettman drops the ball and the NHL has another black eye and are subject to ridicule for not enforcing incidents such as this.

[HockeyCrazy3033 168]

He's 100% right. It's exactly because Pronger is a star player and Simon is not.

What a joke.

[Wings_Dynasty 267]

When a skate is involved, how is one stomp different from another? Once again Bettman drops the ball and the NHL has another black eye and are subject to ridicule for not enforcing incidents such as this.

Throat vs. Foot. Different.

Now calf vs. foot are similar, but the protection of each is different. I was illustrating that I would prefer a foot stomp to a calf stomp. Each should be 30 games.

[FinWing 26]

I would love to see Simon file a lawsuit over this and embarrass this sorry excuse for disciplinary action in the NHL.

[wingslogo19 281]

Simon is 100% on this... All I have to say is this is a joke

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

It shows you just how screwed up Colin Campbell is when Chris Simon is the voice of reason.

[calfan 0]

Simon, although filled with rage most of the time, is a class act next to Pronger. He feels he deserved to get 30 games and Pronger complains about his 8 games and being suspended at all after he was initially cleared.

Should have been 30.

Oh, and IMHO, Pronger's was worse. I would rather have my foot in a skate stomped on than my unprotected calf. And, Pronger stomped harder.

Agreed. I can't believe the number of people who are trying to insinuate that Simon's action was worse than Pronger's. My reaction (at the time) to Simon's suspension was that it seemed like a lot of time for a halfhearted stomp on the top of a guy's skate. However, knowing how dangerous skates can be, if that was the standard the league wanted to set, it was fine by me.

If Simon's actions occurred in a "rage", Pronger's were pre-meditated. He looked down and then stomped on the guy over a play that happens game in and game out. And to do it on the guy's calf when one of the Canucks missed a significant amount of time with a sliced calf muscle and to do any such thing after Zednick's injury is inexcusable.

To try and suggest Pronger and Simon are any different when it comes to stupid acts is debatable as well. Perhaps Pronger has never swung his stick at somebody's head, but his elbows are dangerous enough. The only real difference between the two is the length of the suspensions they are awarded.

The handling of this whole incident is a joke. If the league truly wanted to send a message to the players, it would have suspended Pronger for the rest of the season and the first two rounds of the playoffs.

[mooose kiiisses 0]

Even though Simon has done worse things, I still hate Pronger more.

There is a big difference between the 2:

Pronger injures other players because he see's an opportunity.

Simon injures other players because he can't control his anger.

Both are at fault.

8 games is more than a joke, it's practically telling him 'oh you are a star so we'll just tell you that you've been a bad boy and hope you won't do it again.' I have no doubt that Pronger will do it again though.

[Louisville 112]

I wish someone would of told me a few years ago that the Ducks were going to become the scum of the NHL.

Besides, Schneider and Kunitz, I hate everyone on that team.

[mooose kiiisses 0]

It shows you just how screwed up Colin Campbell is when Chris Simon is the voice of reason.

exactly.

it's a scary thought to say the least.

[wingnut22 81]

It shows you just how screwed up Colin Campbell is when Chris Simon is the voice of reason.

its a scary world we live in! But I agree completely with you.

Even though Simon has done worse things, I still hate Pronger more.

There is a big difference between the 2:

Pronger injures other players because he see's an opportunity.

Simon injures other players because he can't control his anger.

Both are at fault.

8 games is more than a joke, it's practically telling him 'oh you are a star so we'll just tell you that you've been a bad boy and hope you won't do it again.' I have no doubt that Pronger will do it again though.

you are completely right. Simon cant control his anger, but Pronger does it just because he can and he know he and his "physics" will get away with it. Now he has a nice little rest until the playoffs. It is just ridiculous.