Shockwave180 0 Report post Posted April 11, 2008 I don't see what the big deal is about winning the Stanley Cup two years in a row. The Montreal Canadiens won the Cup 4 straight years from the 76/77 season to the 78/79 season; the New York Islanders won it 4 straight years, 79/80 to 82/83; and between 55/56 to 59/60 the Montreal Canadiens won it 5 straight times! That was quite a different era, though. Less than half as many teams in the league, and nowhere near the same amount of parity that you've seen in the last decade or so. Winning back-to-back was a great achievement, although I'll always feel that those mid-to-late-90's teams should've won at least one more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wingsin08 Report post Posted April 11, 2008 in addition to their lack of passion, its a clear lack of discipline that will lose them this series Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted April 11, 2008 This is what interests me. I dont think this is the performance we should expect out of the Ducks for the next several games....BUT... How many times did the Ducks play a team with a good PP last year?? To me, I think if a team can take advantage of their PP against the Ducks, then the Ducks really dont stand a chance. They are a VERY undisciplined team. And theyd have been watching the Wings hoist Stanleys Cup last season if our PP hadnt been god awful for pretty much the entire year.. One thing is for sure. Anaheim will keep on taking lots of penalties. IMO, this series goes to Dallas if they can take advantage of those opportunities against the Ducks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWingedKitten 9 Report post Posted April 11, 2008 One thing is for sure. Anaheim will keep on taking lots of penalties. IMO, this series goes to Dallas if they can take advantage of those opportunities against the Ducks. Agreed. The PP/PK for the two teams is the X factor in this series. Or any series for the Ducks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hillbillywingsfan 794 Report post Posted April 11, 2008 They played an ABSOLUTELY GOD-AWFUL GAME last night. Even with the Wings having won, the Ducks getting tromped was the highlight of my night! As was typical, Pronger laid down a dirty hit when the Ducks were down 0-4. Fortunately, Lundqvist wasn't hurt. what!?!?!?! i didn't see that...what happened? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duck Guy 86 Report post Posted April 11, 2008 (edited) Much as I would love to see the Ducks dumped in the 1st round they've lost ONE game. Way to over-react. In fact, that article is one of the dumbest I've ever read. So dumb it could've been written by Drew Sharpe. Because the Ducks lost the first game 4-0, they're going to go on and win this series, win the 2nd round, but lose in the 3rd? What kind of logic is that? thankkkk you someone finally says it (well at least only person i have seen) ducks dropped a game vs the wings 5-0 at home and they ended up winning the next 3 games. That game last night is in the past and i dont think dallas will be outscoring the ducks 4-0 again ... Edited April 11, 2008 by Duck Guy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lovin Jiri Fischer 147 Report post Posted April 11, 2008 As much as I would L-O-V-E to see the ducks crying their way to the golf course next week, I want the Wings to be the ones to send them there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jim3033 1 Report post Posted April 11, 2008 Two of their players ganged up on one of the Stars almost to hurt him right as Dallas scored the first goal. I don't have a clip. Ahh sweet vengeance! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duck Guy 86 Report post Posted April 11, 2008 Yeah, I watched that game and the Ducks just took stupid penalties all night. They just did not seem like the same Ducks that ruled the playoffs last year, it was weird to watch them. They looked almost awkward or something... (sorry Duckguy, just my observation) ya i agree they did look like crap and they took stupid penalties and could not kill a penalty to save their lives... did not seem like a playoff game i actually left early which is the first time i have ever did that way to wast my money though O.o Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ashenhigh 9 Report post Posted April 11, 2008 this "Helene Elliot" is quite the beast. seen her mugshot? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zombiewing 3 Report post Posted April 11, 2008 I'm willing to give Selanne a pass because he wasn't under contract, but the Niedermayer fiasco really took something out of the team that they're going to have to get back to advance in the playoffs. It forced them to trade Andy McDonald for Dougie Weight, who's currently riding the bench and likely headed into retirement or back to St. Louis (again) at the end of the year. I agree. This is the flashpoint for the Duck's disruption. Also, McDonald was a fairly clutch 2 way centre. Factor in the loss of Penner, and the Ducks lose 13 playoff goals, defensive accuity, and a load of crease-crash. It has only been one game, but the Ducks just seem absent. I am waiting for Captain Stupid to goon it up and get suspended. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Third Man In 2,091 Report post Posted April 11, 2008 thankkkk you someone finally says it (well at least only person i have seen) ducks dropped a game vs the wings 5-0 at home and they ended up winning the next 3 games. That game last night is in the past and i dont think dallas will be outscoring the ducks 4-0 again ... I thought the same thing earlier in the day. The Wings beat the Ducks in their most dominating game of the playoffs and then don't win another game. I expect the Ducks to bounce back like SJ did last night. But Pronger's comments made me wonder a bit about the attitude in the locker room. If the Ducks do fall behind in the series 2-0 or 3-1 (again, not saying it's likely) it will be interesting to see how they respond. But the key for them, again, is discipline. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sergei_is_still_a_wing 1 Report post Posted April 11, 2008 i'm hoping for dallas in six. wear them out a bit before round 2. they need to not let the ducks back in it. its one game they could win game 2 and its a five game series. if giggy gets hot (and he sucked in game one, LBH) he could be dangerous. and we all know turco is a heaping pile of s*** when the playoffs roll around. another reason i'd like to see dallas in round 2. but its one game, could go either way, and i doubt they play that poorly for the rest of the season... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mickeyisms Rule! 0 Report post Posted April 11, 2008 I watched a good chunk of the Dux game last night and it really looked like the Dux are a one-trick pony. They approach every game as "We are going to be very physical and dominate the other team, just like last year." Unfortunately for them, their special teams weren't up to the task of killing the penalties and they let their frustration shine through in the end. I don't think Dallas will sweep, but to be honest if Anaheim doesn't turn it around in a hurry then they will be playing golf in less than a week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaman 713 Report post Posted April 11, 2008 (edited) I nearly died when i saw this picture of the writer... Edited April 11, 2008 by Shaman464 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted April 11, 2008 (edited) One game means absolutley nothing. Just look at how bad the Wings started off that 2002 opening series against Vancouver, or how bad Carolina started off their 2006 opening series against Montreal. It's a long series, everyone. I'm hoping the Stars do come out of it, because I'd love to see all these media bastards eat their words. Everyone is predicting an Anaheim - San Jose WCF; that's why it'd be so funny (and extremely cool) if both Dallas and Calgary advanced instead. It was great watching the Stars kick the Ducks around last night, so hopefully it continues. I watched a good chunk of the Dux game last night and it really looked like the Dux are a one-trick pony. They approach every game as "We are going to be very physical and dominate the other team, just like last year." Unfortunately for them, their special teams weren't up to the task of killing the penalties and they let their frustration shine through in the end. I don't think Dallas will sweep, but to be honest if Anaheim doesn't turn it around in a hurry then they will be playing golf in less than a week. Haha, nice avatar there. I Am Weasel is such an awesome show. Edited April 11, 2008 by Kp-Wings Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted April 11, 2008 You guys are doing wishful thinking if you believe that Dallas has arleady won this series. The Dallas Stars are the NHL's perennial playoff chokers. I'd love to see them win, but my money is still on the Ducks. One game doesn't make a series. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FinRedWing 172 Report post Posted April 11, 2008 QUOTE (calfan @ April 3, 2008 - 04:56PM) * There's a reason why Getzlaf et al ran over the Wings last year - bigger, stronger, faster. Add to that being one year older and there's no reason to believe they won't do it again. Lack of hunger could be one. There's no way they're as hungry as they were last year. "Win it for Teemu" doesn't work anymore. Western Conference is so tight,"wanting it more" will be a huge advantage. And next week there will be 7 teams that want it more than the Ducks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted April 11, 2008 and we all know turco is a heaping pile of s*** when the playoffs roll around. another reason i'd like to see dallas in round 2. Are you serious?? I think I'd take playoff-Giguere over playoff-Turco any day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Uncle Danny 155 Report post Posted April 11, 2008 A few quick thoughts: 1) They lost one game. Come on, guys. This is not a series that either team was capable of sweeping. Too much talent on both sides. 2) All this talk about the Ducks dominating last year has me somewhat baffled. As I recall, they were flat damn near the entire series against the Wings, and somehow found a way to win despite that. Brett Hull (I know, shhhh) was absolutely SCATHING in his review of their play mid series, saying things like (paraphrasing) "There is no way this team deserves to win a game." Fact is, they found a way to win four against us, and then four more. As much as I sincerely hope this series ends 4-3 in favor of Dallas, I'm not counting the Plucks out just yet. They're scary in their lack of dominance. 3) I think we can take them this season. We're hungrier and at least as talented. Go Wings! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest nutz2u Report post Posted April 11, 2008 Yeah it is. Keep in mind, Pronger is now the captain of that team. I confess to being a bit shocked that Pronger was a key player on a Stanley Cup winning team. He always struck me as a loser. A really super talented loser, but a loser nonetheless. His play with the Blues garnered a lot of individual acclaim - and deservedly so - but his boneheaded play, particulary taking stupid, selfish penalties at critical moments, hurt the team. Worse yet, the rest of the team would follow his lead. I think he turned the corner a bit after the lockout when he got the Oilers to the Finals and seemed to smarten up a bit, but he didn't win a Cup until he played for a Ducks team led by proven winner Scott Niedermayer. Well, now Pronger's the captain, and who knows how the dressing room has changed. I still think Nierdermayer's will he/won't he retirement fiasco was a distraction for the Ducks, and I wouldn't be surprised if there are some hard feelings there. Look at Doug Weight. He's there strictly for economic/salary cap reasons. And he's not playing, which he's pretty clearly not happy about. I dunno, I just wonder how it's affecting team chemistry. Add Bertuzzi and his proclivity for playing stupid, and you've got some question marks. You can add questionable players to a strong team with strong leadership and it can work. But when you have loose canons leading the team, that's a little different. It's premature to start dumping dirt on the Ducks. I still think they'll win this series. But they looked friggin' awful last night. No heart at all. They can't win games like that. Weenie Wad's captain? Holy s***, he has always been such a loser. Now I understand why they were so bad b4 Needarest came back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
