Who scares you the most...DAL or SJ?

[Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204]

Neither. If San Jose wins, we'll beat them in 5. They dont have the heart, Nabakov is prone to choking so far in his career, dont scare me one bit.

Dallas, I love there team, alot of good guys. Turco cant beat the Wings, it obviously wouldnt be as bad as Theosieve, but it'd be pretty bad.

And to the people talking about Pittsburgh, our offence would run there defence over. Gill would be chasing Datsyuk all around the ice.

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

Neither. If San Jose wins, we'll beat them in 5. They dont have the heart, Nabakov is prone to choking so far in his career, dont scare me one bit.

Dallas, I love there team, alot of good guys. Turco cant beat the Wings, it obviously wouldnt be as bad as Theosieve, but it'd be pretty bad.

And to the people talking about Pittsburgh, our offence would run there defence over. Gill would be chasing Datsyuk all around the ice.

Imagine the wet dream Bettman would have if the Wings and Pens made the finals. Hell, I'd love to see that.

Unfortunately, I think the Flyers are going to spank the Pens. I hope not but since I am a betting man, my advice is take the Flyers.

[Hiei 192]

Nabokov hasn't looked steady all playoffs, but hey, Drag this series out.

Tonight is Game 5 at HP Pavillion. (their goal horn reminds me of an intel chip burning and grinding to its death.)

Turco never seemed to fare well against the Wings, and his backup Holmqvist was getting shelled by everyone in Tampa this year.

I say we play BOTH of them at the SAME TIME. I am not scared of them, and Neither should the wings!

[Donaldjr2448 43]

I would say Dallas does scare me a bit! However if you have watched the series, you would notice that Dallas has only lead in the three games they won by a combined time of 12+ minutes or so. That does say something, I understand they are scoring timly goals and what not, but I think if we can jump on them early they may fall apart like Colorado did. Honeslty I hope Dallas wraps this up tonight, because I don't want too much time off for our guys, that hurts the offensive production, and that makes Game One scary, because we must win all of our home games, that killed us last year against Anaheim, if we would have played defense in the second period of game two last year, we would have had a 3-0 lead in that series!

[Nightfall 871]

I didn't change a single word, I bolded statements because my question obviously went over people's heads.....you especially.

In regards to you fearing both teams equally, it absolutely doesn't make your answer invalid or incorrect. If you had left it at that, I wouldn't have questioned you in first place. However, then you went on to say that if anyone didn't fear both of them equally then they haven't been paying attention to the playoffs, which I find to be a ridiculous statement.....hence I called you out on it.

Yeah, because momentum from winning a best of seven series where you've had to come back from being down 0-3 means absolutely nothing.

Just forget it.

Sorry man, its a very true statement. Just take a look at both of these teams and just how good they really are. To fear both teams no matter what the outcome of the series is the stance I am taking.

Oh, and if you haven't been playing attention to the playoffs, you aren't in a position to answer the question. Especially with the way you worded it. Oh, and the momentum you have from winning a previous series means nothing in the next series. I am sure that some Avalanche fans thought that Theodore was the second coming after he slammed the door on the Wild in Game 5. The "momentum" the Avalanche had really had nothing to do with what happened in the second round. That momentum can or cannot carry over to the next round.

Not trying to be combative here, just merely explaining my stance a little further. Glad we at least agree that my answer isn't a bad one.

[chrisdetroit 189]

Dallas

1. They have tons of speed and offensive punch. Brad Richards being added to that lineup was just a sick, sick move.

2. They are playing as a cohesive unit, all for one, chip on their shoulder

3. They have some big boys who play a physical game yet contribute in other ways as well, unlike the McLeod's, McCormick's and Lappy's of Colorado.

What I like about Dallas is that we own Turco. So he's either going to buckle under the weight of never being able to beat us or he's going to rise up to some superhuman level b/c his desire to beat us is so great.

I think offensively they can match up with us. I think speedwise they are sick and we are going to realize we're not as fast pretty friggin' quick. Our lack of speed on the blueline has me a little worried b/c they've got some blazers over there.

I think they have an edge physically albeit a slight one.

Defensively they don't have the depth or talent all around that we do.

I think it will be an extremely close series.

Both teams have the talent to win games. But I think the Stars have more grit to them to win games. Even though we could be as gritty as the next team, we rely so much on puck possession and talent that our grit doesn't always come to the surface. And all it takes is a couple of grittier shifts here and there by the opposition to see us lose games 3 to 2 or 4 to 3, etc...

I like our chances. I will take us in 7 games though. That's how close I think it is.

Have you been listening to Barry Melrose to much?

Not as quick? Are you serious? Lack of speed on the blue line? What?

Our Blueline is far superior to theirs and that's when Zubov is in game shape which he clearly isn't yet.

Brad Richards - how does 1 Brad Richards compare to Zetterburg, Dats and Franzen?

I don't see us losing a 7 game series to these guys. They are honestly playing over their heads. They do have some talent and they are definitely making the most of what they got but the depth just isn't there.

On paper, the Avs series was close and the Avs were coming off of a very good effort against Minny. The talking heads even were talking about Theodore being a Conn Smyth canidate. Then they ran into the Wings. Now there is no way that we are going to dominate Dallas, but I just can't see them winning

[McCartyFanForLife 17]

Sorry man, its a very true statement. Just take a look at both of these teams and just how good they really are. To fear both teams no matter what the outcome of the series is the stance I am taking.

Oh, and if you haven't been playing attention to the playoffs, you aren't in a position to answer the question. Especially with the way you worded it. Oh, and the momentum you have from winning a previous series means nothing in the next series. I am sure that some Avalanche fans thought that Theodore was the second coming after he slammed the door on the Wild in Game 5. The "momentum" the Avalanche had really had nothing to do with what happened in the second round. That momentum can or cannot carry over to the next round.

Not trying to be combative here, just merely explaining my stance a little further. Glad we at least agree that my answer isn't a bad one.

Sorry, I'm throwing a BS redcard on that one. If a team comes back down 0 - 3 and wins a series, there will be a HUGE momentum swing for them. It's only been done twice before. Avs momentum was nothing like that.

[chrisdetroit 189]

nice........

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

Have you been listening to Barry Melrose to much?

Not as quick? Are you serious? Lack of speed on the blue line? What?

Our Blueline is far superior to theirs and that's when Zubov is in game shape which he clearly isn't yet.

Brad Richards - how does 1 Brad Richards compare to Zetterburg, Dats and Franzen?

I don't see us losing a 7 game series to these guys. They are honestly playing over their heads. They do have some talent and they are definitely making the most of what they got but the depth just isn't there.

On paper, the Avs series was close and the Avs were coming off of a very good effort against Minny. The talking heads even were talking about Theodore being a Conn Smyth canidate. Then they ran into the Wings. Now there is no way that we are going to dominate Dallas, but I just can't see them winning

You are sort of all over the place in your response to me so I'll take this one comment at a time.

1. "Not as quick, are you serious?" Yes, I am serious. I think overall they are a faster team at the forward position. My statement doesn't mean I think we're going to lose or that water is not wet. It's simply my opinion that they are faster and you should not equate that to mean i'm saying anything other than such.

2. "Our blueline is far superior to their" Well, thank you Captain Obvious. Where did I say that our blueline was weaker? I guess you were just stating a fact but I don't see the necessity of doing such as nobody, and certainly not I was insinuating such.

3. "1 Brad Richards, how does that compare to Z, Dats, Franzen?" Is anybody else kind of chuckling at how funny this comment is? Maybe its just me. Let me clarify it for you. The Stars had a pretty nice, potent offense to begin with. So when they added Brad Richards to it I thought that was a pretty darn good move. And 1 Brad Richards does not = an entire forward line of Redwings. But Brad Richards added to Mike Modano, Mike Ribeiro, Nick Hagman, Brendan Morrow, Jere Lehtinen and Louis Eriksson gives them a nice offensive punch.

4. "I don't see us losing a 7 game series to these guys". Neither do I. Which is why I said I think we'll take them in 7 games.

Edited May 2, 2008 by GordieSid&Ted

[GiantRobot 0]

If San Jose came back from a 3-0 deficit, and headed into the WCF with a head of steam and confidence, theyd scare me more.

[RedLightGoesOn 81]

Neither, Dallas wont go easy, but I think we have the fuel in the tank to finish them in 5. If we face the Pens, our defense needs to show up to win that series. IF by some miracle San Jose wins in 7, they wont last against the Wings, right now we are rested and healthy and ready.

[motorcitykid 42]

Even if San Jose comes back to win, which I don't see happening, they would be beat up and tired out in the process and then have to make the big trip to the Joe to face a rested and healthy Wings team. Dallas has looked really good in the playoffs but of all the goaltenders in the West, Turco scares me the least. For whatever reason, Detroit just owns him. If Detroit plays with the focus they played with over the past six games and keeps getting timely goaltending from Ozzie, I can't see fearing either team.

^^ What he said.

Even if the Sharks somehow comeback and win their series [momentum or not], they are going to be exhausted. Mentally and otherwise. Now I might throw them a bone and say they could win 1, maybe a 2nd. But after grinding out a series win, the LAST thing they need to see, the last thing they want to see down the other end of the ice is THIS Detroit team.

No way in hell they win WCF series. Nope. Never gonna happen.

And as some people have already stated .. Marty Turco vs. The Wings? Hahaha. I can't wait.

I do hope the Stars get banged, bruised and bloodied on their way out, though.

Edited May 2, 2008 by motorcitykid

[redwinger4747 6]

I think this thread needs to be expanded more to include the different situations involving how long it takes Dallas to close out the series. Overall, San Jose winning 4 straight to be the 3rd team to come back from a 0-3 deficit scares me the most but a Dallas team that beats San Jose in 5 games is not far behind. On the other hand, a Dallas team that gets up 3-0, then lets San Jose win 3 before they (Dallas) finally win the series in 7 games is not as scary as the Dallas team that won in 5 games.

[RedFX 48]

Neither team will be a walk in the park. I want to see Dallas, and in my opinion they are the tougher team. That top line is heating up and Turco has been fantastic.

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

Sorry man, its a very true statement. Just take a look at both of these teams and just how good they really are. To fear both teams no matter what the outcome of the series is the stance I am taking.

Than don't bother posting in this thread. The thread asked which team would you fear more given the specific situation I gave. If you don't have an answer that relates to the question, why bother posting? It has nothing to do with what we're talking about.

Oh, and the momentum you have from winning a previous series means nothing in the next series. I am sure that some Avalanche fans thought that Theodore was the second coming after he slammed the door on the Wild in Game 5. The "momentum" the Avalanche had really had nothing to do with what happened in the second round. That momentum can or cannot carry over to the next round.

Nice contradiction there. You've lost the small amount of credibility you had with this statment.

Oh, and if you haven't been playing attention to the playoffs, you aren't in a position to answer the question.

Where do you come up with this stuff?

I said, I've watched pretty much every minute of the playoffs minus when multiple teams are playing at the same time.

Not trying to be combative here, just merely explaining my stance a little further. Glad we at least agree that my answer isn't a bad one.

It's not a good one.

[GMRwings1983 8,804]

Well, we already proved we can beat Nashville without Robert Lang, so I'm sure we can beat the Sharks without him too.

Dallas, I'm not afraid of in the least bit. We've owned them just like we've owned the divealanche in recent memory. They just don't match up well against us, and I still think Turco is 1 or 2 bad goals away from regressing to his former playoff woes.

[WunderfulWorldOFOzzie 0]

<_<

Wow, that is tough one...Well Samuellson (sp) Seemed to play well against San jose and we had a Really good regular season Versus Dallas ...We seemed to have owned Turco when he was in net anytime we played them ...And just a oberservation our puck posession game would give dallas some problems ...Either one or the other will be a good challenge from any stand point you could say ...Hope that we continue to shut down the nay sayers and the doubters of this team and Show them this year how the West is gonna be won ...That being said I believe who ever it is Im hoping we can stay healthy and continue playing as team like we do each game ....And hope our good fortunes continue though out the rest of the playoffs this year ...Go Wings ....!!!

WunderfulWorldOFOzzie

Edited May 2, 2008 by WunderfulWorldOFOzzie

[#96 16]

Well.. If San Jose can some how come back and beat Dallas then the Wings will surely beat San Jose. But if Dallas wins then you can say bye bye to the wings.

[Viperar 16]

Well.. If San Jose can some how come back and beat Dallas then the Wings will surely beat San Jose. But if Dallas wins then you can say bye bye to the wings.

you're counting them out that quick? Wow

[10 Minute Misconduct 104]

SHARKS!!!

When they play to there ability they can dominate. If you've watched every game this series game 1 and 2 the sharks actually outplayed them and lost. Except for the 3rd in game 2 when they blew it.

I think the Sharks are a better team then the Stars!

[Coolio Mendez 7]

The Sharks do. They play the tough dump and chase hockey. The Stars play simialr hockey to us, puck possesion. Marty Turco is a huge reason why the Stars are playing so well.

Marty Turco who is considered one of the best stick handling goaltenders in the NHL as of now. People wonder why he has had such success against teams like the Ducks and the Sharks who make a living off the dump and chase. But Turco leaves the crease takes control of the puck and passes it to a teammate with ease. He was the major reason why the Ducks are out at Round 1, and why the Sharks are struggling in Round 2. He cancels out there strategy, leaving them with nothing to work with. Also Explains why the Ducks were out shot badly every game. Chris Osgood aint no Marty Turco when it comes to stick handling. Just a little insight I have came up with.

So let us play the Stars.

Edited May 2, 2008 by Coolio Mendez

[Must Kill 0]

neither of them really scare me but momintium from a sharks come back and winning the series will. But in all honesty i was looking forward to meeting dallas more than SJ

[Inultus 12]

I'm not afraid of either team. As long as we bring our A-game, we're the best there is.

We just need Ozzie to play well, and everyone else keep on the current pace.

[Electrophile 3,554]

I'd rather play Dallas. That way we're not sitting for a long time and we don't have to worry about facing a team coming off a series win like that. They would have a ton of momentum and we would have been sitting the whole time. It's best to get back out there quickly so everyone stays fresh.

[HockeyCrazy3033 168]

They honestly both scare me. Whether it's the Stars or Sharks, it'll be a very tough/grinding series. Great to watch though!