We need to get inside Turco's Head

[Kcjacoby 10]

But anyone who is going to games one and two really need to get things buzzing at the Joe. I don't care how many time I hear, "TTTTTUUUURRRRRCCCCCOOOOOO" but we need to rattle his cage and take advantage of his temperment. I saw a few times where he got rattled during the San Jose series... and guess what, SJ won those games.

Is it Thursday yet?

Personally, I want to see Dats do this again...

Yeah... that will shut them up...

[interminded 1]

I think San Jose won those games, because they were the better team in those games.

Turco seems very even-keeled in Dallas' run to the Cup... so gettin' inside his head will be very difficult and quite frankly, won't get the job done.

Wings will have to beat Dallas as a team, not only Marty Turco.

[ifonlyicouldskate 11]

I agree beating Dallas will have to be a team effort. But it can't hurt, if we can knock Turco off his game, then our % of winning goes up! He is without a doubt why they are in the WCF!

I will be at game 2, I will see what I can do :beerbuddy:

Edited May 7, 2008 by ifonlyicouldskate

[timothy1997 0]

Turco is 0-7-2 at the Joe. I think whatever we are doing is working. Don't fix it if it ain't broken.

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

TBH, Turco is seeing the puck really well right now. Now the way to get into a goalie's head when they are seeing it that well is moving him side-to-side. The Wings PP will turn out to be crucial in this series, and if Dats and Z can make plays like they did on the fourth goal in Game 3 of the Colorado series, it'll just be a matter of time before Turco's confidence goes with it. He obviously struggles at the Joe (and against Detroit in Dallas for that matter), but he is playing with more confidence than we've ever seen him.

That being said, if the Wings can make those neutral zone plays, spring a couple odd-man rushes together then they should have no problem putting some pucks in the net given how successful they are running their 2-on-1's right now. If/when that happens, it should be enough to rattle Turco and hopefully open the flood gates.

The difference here though is the defense will be much stronger than the Wings have faced in the first couple rounds. If they can get around that, I think they'll not only score some goals, but Turco will fold as he has in the past against Detroit.

Edited May 7, 2008 by Never Forget Mac #25

[Kcjacoby 10]

That being said, if the Wings can make those neutral zone plays, spring a couple odd-man rushes together then they should have no problem putting some pucks in the net given how successful they are running their 2-on-1's right now. If/when that happens, it should be enough to rattle Turco and hopefully open the flood gates.

The difference here though is the defense will be much stronger than the Wings have faced in the first couple rounds. If they can get around that, I think they'll not only score some goals, but Turco will fold as he has in the past against Detroit.

Agreed. Based on how hot he is right now, how he's seeing everything as it needs to be... We get him rattled... we get those chances, work past those defensemen...

And I believe those gates shall open. I think this series will also be a big test for our defense. Everyone keeps on saying that Osgood wasn't tested much the past 2... well I think that will change this time around.

[OsGOD 3]

There is only one way... put in Downey for "one night and one night only" and let him it up in front... we can weather the storm and Downeys "lack of mins" won't be lost anyways... as his ass never plays when it matters.

[grimace1970 81]

Throw an octopus into his crease. Pucks will be attracted to it.

[puckloo39 5,686]

TBH, Turco is seeing the puck really well right now. Now the way to get into a goalie's head when they are seeing it that well is moving him side-to-side. The Wings PP will turn out to be crucial in this series, and if Dats and Z can make plays like they did on the fourth goal in Game 3 of the Colorado series, it'll just be a matter of time before Turco's confidence goes with it. He obviously struggles at the Joe (and against Detroit in Dallas for that matter), but he is playing with more confidence than we've ever seen him.

That being said, if the Wings can make those neutral zone plays, spring a couple odd-man rushes together then they should have no problem putting some pucks in the net given how successful they are running their 2-on-1's right now. If/when that happens, it should be enough to rattle Turco and hopefully open the flood gates.

The difference here though is the defense will be much stronger than the Wings have faced in the first couple rounds. If they can get around that, I think they'll not only score some goals, but Turco will fold as he has in the past against Detroit.

You win the Most Intelligent Fan award for the day, Mac. Very good analysis. Turco has a bit of confidence right now, but it won't take much to get him off his game. His D is doing an amazing job of protecting him, but he's also has a nice run of seeing the puck well, as you say.

I agree with Interminded, the Wings will have to beat the entire Dallas team... not just Turco. The whole team (esp. Morrow) is on a mission. It's Detroit's job to deny them.

[GMRwings1983 8,804]

We need Hudler to do a Sean Avery type of goalie screen.

[Spinner 6]

I think Homer and Franzenstein have it covered.

[puckloo39 5,686]

We need Hudler to do a Sean Avery type of goalie screen.

Turco would go ballistic. You thought Noodles' two-hander on Mule was atrocious?

[Yemack 1]

Screening is important but I think if Wings just need to score on some chances early in the series/game.

Also Datsyuk seemed to figure out how Turco's brain works so it might be good idea to set Pavel up for the trigger man?

[12Newf 0]

i made the turco voodoo doll, so ill do my part okay?

[irishtemper14+25 11]

ill be yellin at him on thursday but theres no way he hears me

[DallasStars 0]

He is without a doubt why they are in the WCF!

While he has been a huge part of our success, you can not take away the fact that we have been scoring almost at will.

In 6 games against Anaheim we scored 20 goals. Thats 3.33 goals a game against arguably one of the best blue lines ever.

In 6 games against San Jose we scored 15 goals. Thats 2.5 goals a game against perhaps the Vezina winner.

Yes, Marty is playing off the charts this playoff year, but look at what he did last year. Even better in some regards. The difference between this years team and last years team is that we are getting goals when we need them. Last year we couldnt score that go ahead goal, much less the nail in the coffin 3 goal lead type scoring. This year we can and have been. I just hope we can keep it up. You guys are different team than we've been playing.

Edited May 7, 2008 by DallasStars

[wingslogo19 281]

I think a big difference is we have Homer and the Mule to screen Turco

[interminded 1]

While he has been a huge part of our success, you can not take away the fact that we have been scoring almost at will.

In 6 games against Anaheim we scored 20 goals. Thats 3.33 goals a game against arguably one of the best blue lines ever.

In 6 games against San Jose we scored 15 goals. Thats 2.5 goals a game against perhaps the Vezina winner.

Yes, Marty is playing off the charts this playoff year, but look at what he did last year. Even better in some regards. The difference between this years team and last years team is that we are getting goals when we need them. Last year we couldnt score that go ahead goal, much less the nail in the coffin 3 goal lead type scoring. This year we can and have been. I just hope we can keep it up. You guys are different team than we've been playing.

Anaheim wasn't the Anaheim it should have been.

Niedermayer, Pronger, Beauchemin and Schneider were mediocre at best.

Giguere was just bad...

Scoring 2.5 goals a game against a possible Vezina winner doesn't mean anything.

Lundqvist and Brodeur are finalist too and they are at home watching Family Guy right now..

A goalie is just a goalie.

[DallasStars 0]

So I guess we got here by beating a mediocre Anaheim team, and just another Vezina finalist(probably the winner). Just like you guys got here by struggling with an over-achieving 8th seed about as deep as a spoon, and beating an injury devastated team.

I guess a WCF is just an WCF.

[Yemack 1]

So I guess we got here by beating a mediocre Anaheim team, and just another Vezina finalist(probably the winner). Just like you guys got here by struggling with an over-achieving 8th seed about as deep as a spoon, and beating an injury devastated team.

I guess a WCF is just an WCF.

What would you like to hear from us?

[interminded 1]

So I guess we got here by beating a mediocre Anaheim team, and just another Vezina finalist(probably the winner). Just like you guys got here by struggling with an over-achieving 8th seed about as deep as a spoon, and beating an injury devastated team.

I guess a WCF is just an WCF.

Absolutely.

It's all about the Cup.

Nobody cares about a quadruple overtime win with 61 saves or a 4-0 sweep over the Avalanche if it doesn't lead you to hoisting the Stanley Cup. It's meaningless..

[DallasStars 0]

haha nothing. We've over talked this already. Im just ready for this series to start already haha.

[ifonlyicouldskate 11]

While he has been a huge part of our success, you can not take away the fact that we have been scoring almost at will.

In 6 games against Anaheim we scored 20 goals. Thats 3.33 goals a game against arguably one of the best blue lines ever.

In 6 games against San Jose we scored 15 goals. Thats 2.5 goals a game against perhaps the Vezina winner.

Yes, Marty is playing off the charts this playoff year, but look at what he did last year. Even better in some regards. The difference between this years team and last years team is that we are getting goals when we need them. Last year we couldnt score that go ahead goal, much less the nail in the coffin 3 goal lead type scoring. This year we can and have been. I just hope we can keep it up. You guys are different team than we've been playing.

This is all true, I will give you that. But if you put Theodore in net for the stars, would the goals a game be so high? Probably not, because timely saves can feed momentum to your team. Without Turco I do not believe the stars would be in the WCF, and I'm not trying to take anything away from the rest of the team because you obviously have to put the puck in the net to win. Hopefully all that winning stuff for the stars is over :beerbuddy:

[DallasStars 0]

haha Hopefully not. I understand where you are coming from. I think it speaks to the need for a complete team come this time of year. If you're missing a link, everything folds.

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

So I guess we got here by beating a mediocre Anaheim team, and just another Vezina finalist(probably the winner). Just like you guys got here by struggling with an over-achieving 8th seed about as deep as a spoon, and beating an injury devastated team.

I guess a WCF is just an WCF.

I have to agree with DS. The Wings (or their fans) are in no place to rip on Dallas for who they've knocked out considering who the Wings have disposed of.

Bottom line, both teams deserve to be where they are. The Wings struggled a little out of the gate, but that was due some mediocre goaltending and a goalie that was standing on his head, and then destroyed an injury-riddled team (which BTW, is what good teams do...finish off weaker opponents in 4 games).

I don't fault the Wings for this, nor do I fault the Stars for playing the defending champs who couldn't a buy a goal. The fact of the matter here is that both teams have solid clubs and both are scary when they are "on". Right now, both teams seem to be which should make for a great series.

All this bickering back and forth is nothing more than people trying to cover theirs fears and respect for the other team.