GoalieManPat 1,007 Report post Posted May 12, 2008 Vladdy Discuss Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JayUp88 1 Report post Posted May 12, 2008 Great read! I think it was a respect thing. He was a really great player and would haven't got even better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hank 0 Report post Posted May 12, 2008 Bowman's also remarked on several occassions that he felt the Wings would have won at least 2 more Cups if Vlad was still around. Of course, not even the 1976 Montreal defense could have won us another cup in '99 with the horrible disappearing act Bill Ranford made. We could have had Tim Chevaldae in net that year and won a Cup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xitium 272 Report post Posted May 12, 2008 This is trial testimony, so Lindsay is obviously going to play up the potential and playing ability the Vladinator had. That being said, its not like I disagree with him... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingslogo19 281 Report post Posted May 12, 2008 I saw this articel in the morning, it's a great read Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miksteri 55 Report post Posted May 12, 2008 Great clips, Vladdy was brilliant hitter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LidstromIsASuperhero 29 Report post Posted May 12, 2008 Sounds to me like Lindsay kind of exaggerated to try and win the lawsuit for Vladdy to me... I mean, Vladdy was great, but you really can't say he was the best ever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xitium 272 Report post Posted May 12, 2008 Sounds to me like Lindsay kind of exaggerated to try and win the lawsuit for Vladdy to me... I mean, Vladdy was great, but you really can't say he was the best ever. He didn't say he was the best ever. He said Vladdy was the best player in the world at the time of his accident. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
up2here 41 Report post Posted May 12, 2008 This is trial testimony, so Lindsay is obviously going to play up the potential and playing ability the Vladinator had. That being said, its not like I disagree with him... How much do I love those videos? The first one because it Claude Lemieux and the second one because of the look on Lindros's face..."I thought we were better". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nev 1,085 Report post Posted May 12, 2008 Look, I love VLaddy as much as then next man, but to say he was the best player in the world - or even the best defencemen ever is just dumb. A good physical, defenceman, capable of huge hits, with offensive upside - yes. But any more than that is just hyperbole. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hank Dats 'N Homer 81 Report post Posted May 12, 2008 i know this is way off topic, and im not trying to take away from the post, but what is vladdy's status? I know his wife was divorcing him and that he was trying to sue the ford company, but how is he doing? The only thing i can find is that he needs constant care. I know he suffered serious head injuries, but is he legally retarded and slow? Or are his head injuries mearly injuries that affect aspects such as speach and movement? Can he still comprehend whats going on or what? Whenever i see him he has that look on his face like hes not sure whats going on, but i cant find any information as to whether he knows where he is and what hes going or not. Im just curious and im not trying to be rude or anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lfd250 1 Report post Posted May 12, 2008 As stated, he was the best at the time in the world. Meaning he could play here, or on the big rinks accross the pond. No one is saying he's the best ever, we all know that is Krupp. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted May 12, 2008 Vlady was an insane defensman. Theres definitely an argument for best at the time, and a gifted few would have enough evidence to argue best of all time. Unfortunately I think its ridiculous that the limo manufacturer is being sued for all of this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grim 5 Report post Posted May 12, 2008 Vlad was very skilled offensively. Dare I say, at the time he was on par if not better than anyone on the team at dead-stop puck handling. he was about as reliable as you could get on clear path breakaways. but his real attribute was his devastating hip checks... he was uncannily skilled at finding your center of gravity and would send you toppling. and he did it so subtly! I shed a tear in thought, everytime I see Nik get mentioned for all these awards. Oh what could have been Vladdy. terrible tragedy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dallas27 7 Report post Posted May 12, 2008 Richard Gnida, the biggest d-bag to ever live Discuss. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
servo 15 Report post Posted May 12, 2008 Best hip checker of all time!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
imisssergei 0 Report post Posted May 12, 2008 You know, the only thing I could think about while reading this article is the fact that the manufacturer is getting sued. How ridiculous is that? Think about it, if you made a product and the product was involved indirectly in someones death due to no actions of yours, how would you feel about being sued? It's ridiculous. I'm all for Vladdy getting paid and all, but that is what life insurance, and the NHLPA are for. He shouldn't get a dime out of the manufacturer. Ever. It makes me sick thinking about how people are trying to profit from his suffering. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
irishtemper14+25 11 Report post Posted May 12, 2008 i read that earlier....and i never argued against that if vladdy kept playing he would have the 5 norriss not nick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted May 12, 2008 You know, the only thing I could think about while reading this article is the fact that the manufacturer is getting sued. How ridiculous is that? Think about it, if you made a product and the product was involved indirectly in someones death due to no actions of yours, how would you feel about being sued? It's ridiculous. I'm all for Vladdy getting paid and all, but that is what life insurance, and the NHLPA are for. He shouldn't get a dime out of the manufacturer. Ever. It makes me sick thinking about how people are trying to profit from his suffering. I don't agree. If there's something wrong with the design or manufacture of a car, the manufacturer should be getting sued, even if some jackass caused the accident. Based on your reasoning, manufacturers of cars should never be sued, because when I think about it, most car accidents do occur because it was someone's fault. Cars should be designed with safety in mind, and even though serious damage to a person is often unavoidable, if there was a better alternative design that was available, or if the actual manufacture of the car was somehow defective, then litigants should absolutely have the right to sue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
homertime 0 Report post Posted May 12, 2008 You know, the only thing I could think about while reading this article is the fact that the manufacturer is getting sued. How ridiculous is that? Think about it, if you made a product and the product was involved indirectly in someones death due to no actions of yours, how would you feel about being sued? It's ridiculous. I'm all for Vladdy getting paid and all, but that is what life insurance, and the NHLPA are for. He shouldn't get a dime out of the manufacturer. Ever. It makes me sick thinking about how people are trying to profit from his suffering. The dealership is being sued because the car was not built safe enough and didnt even have front facing rear seat belts. As far as Vladdys wife goes (from what I heard from a family friend) she has never helpped him. After the accident she would swear at him and call him a "retard" and said that he was a waste. So I say good riddence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
travis08 3 Report post Posted May 12, 2008 (edited) Anyone know what he is suing Ford for? I always liked him, and wish him the best, but suing Ford seems real dirty to me. Though I am not sure of his mental faculties. Is it his idea or his handlers. Edited May 12, 2008 by travis08 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted May 12, 2008 Anyone know what he is suing Ford for? I always liked him, and wish him the best, but suing Ford seems real dirty to me. Though I am not sure of his mental faculties. Is it his idea or his handlers. Why not sue Ford if the car was designed improperly somehow? It contributed to their injuries even though the driver was drunk. Also, it may that they can't get anything from the family of the driver. I'm just confused as to why this lawsuit is so late. There has to be a statute of limitations in Michigan on this claim. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted May 13, 2008 Look, I love VLaddy as much as then next man, but to say he was the best player in the world - or even the best defencemen ever is just dumb. A good physical, defenceman, capable of huge hits, with offensive upside - yes. But any more than that is just hyperbole. Lidstrom is generally accepted as one of the all-time greats. Many on this board rank him as a no-brainer for #2. That he is in the top five is without question. Konstantinov was better than Lidstrom at the time of his accident, and is the same age. He was the best in the world, and getting better. His conditioning was, and is still, phenomenal. It's quite possible that Vladdy would be the owner of eight or nine consecutive Norris trophies had he not been in that limo. That is a pretty compelling argument to be considered to have 'potential to have been the greatest of all-time.' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted May 13, 2008 You know, the only thing I could think about while reading this article is the fact that the manufacturer is getting sued. How ridiculous is that? Then you need to try thinking again, because you are wrong. The manufacturer is NOT being sued. Ford is not being sued. A Ford DEALER is being sued. The argument is that Findlay FLM is liable because they provided the vehicle for modification when it was turned into a limousine, and they failed to ensure that the seat belts in the rear compartment were properly accessible and functioned correctly. If this is proven to be the case, Findlay FLM is absolutely liable for any injury resulting from the defect of modification if it can be shown that they could have caught the error and thusly had the vehicle fixed or replaced, ensuring safety of the occupants could be preserved. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings_fan_in STL 0 Report post Posted May 13, 2008 Then you need to try thinking again, because you are wrong. The manufacturer is NOT being sued. Ford is not being sued. A Ford DEALER is being sued. The argument is that Findlay FLM is liable because they provided the vehicle for modification when it was turned into a limousine, and they failed to ensure that the seat belts in the rear compartment were properly accessible and functioned correctly. If this is proven to be the case, Findlay FLM is absolutely liable for any injury resulting from the defect of modification if it can be shown that they could have caught the error and thusly had the vehicle fixed or replaced, ensuring safety of the occupants could be preserved. Eva you kind of amaze me at times. Tell the truth, are you really a computer? You seem to know all facts about hockey and even legal matters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites