sWINGED 0 Report post Posted May 27, 2008 his only post-game comments after the schooling the wings gave the pens in game 2 was how he couldn't believe the red wings don't retaliate. hey, you color-blind old f***: the name of the game is WINNING. lol... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted May 27, 2008 (edited) his only post-game comments after the schooling the wings gave the pens in game 2 was how he couldn't believe the red wings don't retaliate. hey, you color-blind old f***: the name of the game is WINNING. lol... I saw a hell of a lot of fighting back, including Datsyuk, Frazen, and Lilja INSTIGATING. Shock! Maybe he's just mad the Wings won't blow this series due to bad penalties and needless fighting? Fights are so much more exciting when they are rare and meaningful anyways. Edited May 27, 2008 by VM1138 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,803 Report post Posted May 27, 2008 He hates us because most of our players are European. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
McCartyFanForLife 17 Report post Posted May 27, 2008 Don Cherry is a hockey personality, not a hockey expert. I don't give anything he says a second thought. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Systemfel 33 Report post Posted May 27, 2008 Cherry is a racist bigot and EXTREMELY predictable. But he's fun to listen to sometimes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LadyWildcat 4 Report post Posted May 27, 2008 Yes, but he also said on Coach's Corner that we're going to win the Cup. He obviously doesn't care that much about our supposed lack of retaliation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sWINGED 0 Report post Posted May 27, 2008 He hates us because most of our players are European. i don't hate cherry because he's canadian...only because he's stupid and a bigot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted May 27, 2008 The guys who retaliated were Europeans. Do you really expect that Grapes will give them any credit? Heh, for all we know, he didn't even see it happen. He's blind when it comes to Europeans. Case and Point: he has never once referred to Anton Volchenkov of the Ottawa Senators by his actual name; he referrs to him as "the Russian guy". Yet, Volchenkov is Ottawa's toughest player behind only Neil and McGrattan. The guy just plain and simpily hates Europeans; he will never give them any credit. I think it's about time you guys get used to that, because that's the way things will be. It's like asking a St. Louis Blues fan to give the Wings credit, and say their a good team: it's never going to happen. Grapes is an old man anyways; I honestly don't see why his approval is so important to everyone. The guys a dinosaur; in a few years, he'll be out of the loop for good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueMonk 102 Report post Posted May 27, 2008 I agree with Cherry, the Wings didn't have to fight or take a penalty, just get in a guy's face. I'm glad they stuck up for Ozzie, but the irony is that that wasn't even really a big deal, because Ozzie appeared to initiate it and then dive, while the Franzen stuff was repetitive and blatant. Up 3-0, it's not like the Wings were going to lose the game if they took a penalty. Oh, well. Not that important right now. But if the Pens continue that type of thing, the Wings can't expect the refs to bail them out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted May 27, 2008 I didn't catch Grapes' comments so I'll reserve judgment on whatever he said, and instead just say this: If someone had gone after Roberts after his sucker punch, that scrum probably wouldn't have happened. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jedi 1,865 Report post Posted May 27, 2008 (edited) Well, he wasn't complaining that we didn't retaliate overall, because we clearly did with the shot on Ozzie. He was stating that he was surprised that we didn't retaliate to the shot on the 'Stein, since he's just coming off of the injury from concussion-like symptoms (which I tend to agree with). But in case you didn't hear it, in the very same segment he complimented Mike Babcock for keeping this team disciplined. *edit* grammar Edited May 27, 2008 by Jedi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
betterREDthandead 58 Report post Posted May 27, 2008 I agree with Cherry, the Wings didn't have to fight or take a penalty, just get in a guy's face. I'm glad they stuck up for Ozzie, but the irony is that that wasn't even really a big deal, because Ozzie appeared to initiate it and then dive, while the Franzen stuff was repetitive and blatant. Up 3-0, it's not like the Wings were going to lose the game if they took a penalty. Oh, well. Not that important right now. But if the Pens continue that type of thing, the Wings can't expect the refs to bail them out. I'd rather preserve the shutout. I think the Wings get a much better mental edge from it than taking some roughing penalty or getting up in somebody's grill. Sure, a power play goal making it 3-1 would be pretty harmless for this game. But then you get the Pens thinking to themselves, "Hey, all we need to do is start s***, draw a penalty, and we can get our edge back." The Penguins are hockey players; they've been facewashed before, yelled at, fought, all that stuff, they can handle it. Nothing the Wings can do in that department that they haven't seen before. What they haven't faced is being down 2-0 and being totally, totally blanked. That's where the mental edge comes in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted May 27, 2008 (edited) It's about more than power plays and shutouts -- it's about telling the opponent, "Don't f*** with our players or you'll pay a price beyond the scoreboard." If that message isn't made clear, then you're going to get what ultimately happened a few minutes later: someone runs Ozzie, Roberts decides to go after Dats (big mistake! EPIC LOL!) -- just a lot of garbage that you don't want to have to deal with. Or worse: someone could end Mule's career. I'm not saying anyone on the Wings should have resorted to full-on goonery, but come on. Edited May 27, 2008 by Dabura Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
betterREDthandead 58 Report post Posted May 27, 2008 It's about more than power plays and shutouts -- it's about telling the opponent, "Don't f*** with our players or you'll pay a price beyond the scoreboard." The Wings are two wins away from the ultimate prize. Nothing but the scoreboard matters now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted May 27, 2008 OK, let people punch Mule in the head the rest of the series. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
betterREDthandead 58 Report post Posted May 27, 2008 OK, let people punch Mule in the head the rest of the series. Gary Roberts is 42 years old. He is not gonna decide not to punch someone just because there's a chance he'll get facewashed for it. Been there, done that, got the t-shirt. You wanna know the best way to keep our players injury-free? Play as few games as possible. Finish this off early. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ILWingsFan1 0 Report post Posted May 27, 2008 I'm with Dabura. Somebody should have kicked Roberts' ass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted May 27, 2008 OK, let people punch Mule in the head the rest of the series. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
imisssergei 0 Report post Posted May 27, 2008 I just can't wait to hear Grapes eat some crown when Lids hoists the Cup. How many times has he said no team with a Euro captain would win the Cup? It's just a matter of time! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted May 27, 2008 Another thing -- people are generally way too hard on Cherry. The guy's old and borderline senile and he gets paid to have a personality. It's not like he's touted as the ultimate authority on hockey. And for what it's worth, he's said some very positive things about the Wings lately. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sergeiwasmyfav 0 Report post Posted May 27, 2008 I just can't wait to hear Grapes eat some crown when Lids hoists the Cup. How many times has he said no team with a Euro captain would win the Cup? It's just a matter of time! I don't really think he would be eating any crow if the Wings do win the Cup because he has been saying since at least the Dallas series that the Wings are going to win it, so it would be his prediction coming true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RockyMountainWingGal 108 Report post Posted May 27, 2008 Another thing -- people are generally way too hard on Cherry. The guy's old and borderline senile and he gets paid to have a personality. It's not like he's touted as the ultimate authority on hockey. And for what it's worth, he's said some very positive things about the Wings lately. You're exactly right, he's an entertainer and I think it's great that ESPN has him on with Melrose. Any spotlight the NHL can get can only be good. There are plenty of dry NHL commentators - Cherry is good for the sport even though he sticks his foot in his mouth sometimes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted May 27, 2008 his only post-game comments after the schooling the wings gave the pens in game 2 was how he couldn't believe the red wings don't retaliate. hey, you color-blind old f***: the name of the game is WINNING. lol... Take Cherry with a grain of salt. He's very passionate and likes the game to be played a certain way. He likes physical hockey. Sometimes that yields him making comments out of left field. It's not the first time it happened, it won't be the last. I like his passion and his entertainment, plus he's a pretty snappy dresser. I honestly do not get how/why he is hated by so many people in here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FireCaptain 563 Report post Posted May 27, 2008 If someone had gone after Roberts after his sucker punch, that scrum probably wouldn't have happened. There weren't any Wings close. By the time they get there to retaliate, it definitely becomes a penalty. That could possibly result in a power play and/or goal by the Deadbirds. Remember, the refs sometimes miss the 1st contact but they usually see the 2nd. The Wings to needs to stick up for each other, but in that instance (as s***ty as it was) the right move was to let it go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FireCaptain 563 Report post Posted May 27, 2008 Ditto. Maybe some people just like to have a villain? He's very passionate and likes the game to be played a certain way. He likes physical hockey. Sometimes that yields him making comments out of left field. It's not the first time it happened, it won't be the last. I like his passion and his entertainment, plus he's a pretty snappy dresser. I honestly do not get how/why he is hated by so many people in here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
