Penguins file for arbitration w/ Fleury

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

Penguins File For Arbitration with Fleury

Can't say I'm too surprised, but this would be an interesting ruling if it got that far.

Edited June 13, 2008 by Never Forget Mac #25

[10 Minute Misconduct 104]

Technically the Pens filed for arbitration, not Fleury

[omnipotent_hudler 0]

heres to hoping fleury gets screwed and is bitter for the rest of the season

[Opie 308]

Slight difference there, word order makes all the difference in the world!

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

Yeah, my bad. Mods, please make the correction.

[egroen 384]

He will only get a one or two year deal... if they do not sign him by the time it goes to arbitration.

Allows the Pens more time to sign him and keeps the RFA offers away for a while.

[akustyk 84]

here we go with the "dynasty"... let them fall apart and see

Sindy's bandwaggon clean up

[FinRedWing 172]

He will only get a one or two year deal... if they do not sign him by the time it goes to arbitration.

Allows the Pens more time to sign him and keeps the RFA offers away for a while.

Smart move...

[Opie 308]

He will only get a one or two year deal... if they do not sign him by the time it goes to arbitration.

Allows the Pens more time to sign him and keeps the RFA offers away for a while.

That my friend I think is the whole reason to this!!!!

[egroen 384]

Malkin said at the award show he is not interested in making more than Crosby ($8.7 million) and thinks they will come to an easy extension of 5-6 years.

Hossa has hinted he would take a pay cut to be with a cup contender...

I hope they keep both. $25 million on three forwards will ensure about half the team is made up of AHLers.

Go Pens, sign them all!

[norrisnick 1]

The Rangers did this last season with Lundqvist.

[Slave 31]

real smart move by shero me thinks

[Cicada 4]

looks like Malone is gone though, and no news about Staal yet...

i wonder how much a 19 year old 3rd line centre really expects to get

[Opie 308]

Malkin said at the award show he is not interested in making more than Crosby ($8.7 million) and thinks they will come to an easy extension of 5-6 years.

Hossa has hinted he would take a pay cut to be with a cup contender...

I hope they keep both. $25 million on three forwards will ensure about half the team is made up of AHLers.

Go Pens, sign them all!

So lets say in your scenario:

Crosby 8.7

Malkin 7 (at min)

Hossa 7 (at min)

Fluery at least 5 if not 6

At best they are looking at

27.7 mil there, you add 6 more for Gonchar (not sure if that is a full hit or not)

2.7 in sykora

36.4 mil tied up in 4 forwards, 1 netminder and one D-man OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They still have to sign Orpik and Malone, How with that kind of money already sewn up in those 6 players!!!

Then you add

Ryan Whitney at 3

Sydor 2.5

Gill 2.1

44 mil

Scuderi and Letang barely make a mil combined so there d is full, in terms of having enough warm bodies;

Staal, Kennedy, talbot are about another 2.5 mil

47.5 mil in 14 players and still no Orpik or Malone.

With a 56 mil cap they are hurting badly they need atleast another 7 players at bare minimum!!

And no backup!

Granted my numbers for Fluery, Malkin, and Hossa are guesses but I would say accurate guesses, seeing as Hossa made 7 last year maybe he goes to 6, still that is over 46mil for 14 players they will need a bunch of players signed at about 500k.

[norrisnick 1]

looks like Malone is gone though, and no news about Staal yet...

i wonder how much a 19 year old 3rd line centre really expects to get

He's only a 3rd line center because guys like Crosby and Malkin are ahead of him.

He'd be a solid #2 on a LOT of teams.

[norrisnick 1]

So lets say in your scenario:

Crosby 8.7

Malkin 7 (at min)

Hossa 7 (at min)

Fluery at least 5 if not 6

At best they are looking at

27.7 mil there, you add 6 more for Gonchar (not sure if that is a full hit or not)

2.7 in sykora

36.4 mil tied up in 4 forwards, 1 netminder and one D-man OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They still have to sign Orpik and Malone, How with that kind of money already sewn up in those 6 players!!!

Then you add

Ryan Whitney at 3

Sydor 2.5

Gill 2.1

44 mil

Scuderi and Letang barely make a mil combined so there d is full, in terms of having enough warm bodies;

Staal, Kennedy, talbot are about another 2.5 mil

47.5 mil in 14 players and still no Orpik or Malone.

With a 56 mil cap they are hurting badly they need atleast another 7 players at bare minimum!!

And no backup!

Granted my numbers for Fluery, Malkin, and Hossa are guesses but I would say accurate guesses, seeing as Hossa made 7 last year maybe he goes to 6, still that is over 46mil for 14 players they will need a bunch of players signed at about 500k.

Malkin will make no less than $8M.

Hossa will likely hit real close to $8M.

Whitney's cap hit is $4M.

Gonchar's cap hit is $5M.

[toby91_ca 620]

He's only a 3rd line center because guys like Crosby and Malkin are ahead of him.

He'd be a solid #2 on a LOT of teams.

Both Malkin and Staal are under contract for another year, both are due to be RFA's after next season. I think Malkin will sign an extension this summer, not sure about Staal, but if he doesn't, not a big deal for the Pens. I think the Pens would love to sign Staal to an extension now as I suspect it may be more costly for them next year.

[Echolalia 2,961]

So how does the arbitration affect his RFA status?

[norrisnick 1]

So how does the arbitration affect his RFA status?

It is my understanding that other teams cannot tender an offer.

[Echolalia 2,961]

It is my understanding that other teams cannot tender an offer.

So are we going to see a trend where every RFA will go through arbitration

[norrisnick 1]

So are we going to see a trend where every RFA will go through arbitration

No. There's a limit to how many players a team can take and how often. I'm firing up the CBA I'll have a definitive answer shortly.

The big limits are as follows.

A player can only be taken to club initiated arbitration once.

A team can only take two players to arbitration per year.

[LeftWinger 5,152]

No. There's a limit to how many players a team can take and how often. I'm firing up the CBA I'll have a definitive answer shortly.

The big limits are as follows.

A player can only be taken to club initiated arbitration once.

A team can only take two players to arbitration per year.

...just a comment on your sig pic. SWEET! If those guys are up next year that is a total of 9 Swedes on an 18 skater roster! I do believe that would be a record and an NHL high! If they sign Sundin or Naslund... WHEW! Team Sweden for sure!

...ok, back to the regularly sceduled topic...

...just my naivity, but who is the Swede next to Holmstrom?

Edited June 13, 2008 by LeftWinger

[SnipeShow 0]

ritola

[Z and D for the C 712]

What exactly is arbitration? I know the definition of the world, but when happens when they enter arbitration? Does the league just step in and say "okay is how much the contract is going to be."?

Edited June 14, 2008 by Z and D for the C

[Cicada 4]

basically, yeah..

or an independent arbitrator does anyway

Edited June 14, 2008 by Cicada