DatsyukownzU13 1 Report post Posted August 27, 2008 Whenever the time comes that Osgood isn't starter-quality anymore, it looks like we have some options in net. A lot of people are already on the Jimmy Howard bandwagon and I don't necessarily disagree with them, but he is yet to really prove himself at a high level (he has been above-average at best in the AHL). I really think that Daniel Larsson could be our goalie of the future. If he can translate his game to NA then we have a good one. For those of you who don't know him, he played in the Swedish Elite League and nabbed the rookie of the year alongside the goaltender of the year in 2008. Pretty impressive. If he comes out of the SEL anything like Henrik Lundvquist did that would be amazing. With that said, we sure have a bright future in goal with the likes of Larsson, Howard, Conklin and newly-drafted McCollum. Discuss. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted August 27, 2008 (edited) So you don't think Howard is ready even though he has been better than average in the AHL and shown signs of being very solid in the NHL (Dallas game when the top 4 D were all out), yet some one that has not played any NA hockey, isn't used to the rink sizes (which changes angles) is? If J-Ho is ready, he will be the man, if not then Holland and Co will fix the problem whether that be internally or via trade. Is Larssen / J-Ho going to be the new goalie controversy thread now? Edited August 27, 2008 by Opie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PROBIE4PREZ 58 Report post Posted August 27, 2008 j-ho is the future .. Laarson goin to need a couple of years in GR to get used to the angles and he has already said that the NA game consists of shooting from anywhere and everywhere where as the Euro thing is cycling and quality shots .. After Ozzie is gone i want to see a vet and j-ho .. with J-ho having the majority of the workload Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
imisssergei 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2008 Whenever the time comes that Osgood isn't starter-quality anymore, it looks like we have some options in net. A lot of people are already on the Jimmy Howard bandwagon and I don't necessarily disagree with them, but he is yet to really prove himself at a high level (he has been above-average at best in the AHL). I really think that Daniel Larsson could be our goalie of the future. If he can translate his game to NA then we have a good one. For those of you who don't know him, he played in the Swedish Elite League and nabbed the rookie of the year alongside the goaltender of the year in 2008. Pretty impressive. If he comes out of the SEL anything like Henrik Lundvquist did that would be amazing. With that said, we sure have a bright future in goal with the likes of Larsson, Howard, Conklin and newly-drafted McCollum. Discuss. You had me thinking about it until you mention Conklin. You have to be kidding. The guy is, at his best, a career backup. He will be lucky to make the team. Yeah, he had a good run with the Pens when MAF went down, but that's it. Conklin was brought in to really push Howard. That's all. By no means is Conklin in Hollands long term plans. Right now, the Wings don't need an elite goaltender. And no, IMHO Osgood isn't an elite goaltender. I'm not knocking him, but he just isn't on the same level as Luongo, Brodeur, or Roy. The Wings will need to find a replacement for Osgood soon. He isn't exactly a spring chicken. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CAredwingsfan91 28 Report post Posted August 27, 2008 i dont know about howard yet i know he did good in that dallas game but really i dont think ive ever been a fan i know we've had this discussion before so it may take a lot longer for me to get used to him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsyukownzU13 1 Report post Posted August 27, 2008 You had me thinking about it until you mention Conklin. You have to be kidding. The guy is, at his best, a career backup. He will be lucky to make the team. Yeah, he had a good run with the Pens when MAF went down, but that's it. Conklin was brought in to really push Howard. That's all. By no means is Conklin in Hollands long term plans. Right now, the Wings don't need an elite goaltender. And no, IMHO Osgood isn't an elite goaltender. I'm not knocking him, but he just isn't on the same level as Luongo, Brodeur, or Roy. The Wings will need to find a replacement for Osgood soon. He isn't exactly a spring chicken. I kinda just threw his name in because he's going to be on the team. He could amaze us but by me throwing him in the post, I'm not saying he's being considered as a franchise goalie or anything. Just to clarify... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted August 27, 2008 You had me thinking about it until you mention Conklin. You have to be kidding. The guy is, at his best, a career backup. He will be lucky to make the team. Yeah, he had a good run with the Pens when MAF went down, but that's it. Conklin was brought in to really push Howard. That's all. By no means is Conklin in Hollands long term plans. Right now, the Wings don't need an elite goaltender. And no, IMHO Osgood isn't an elite goaltender. I'm not knocking him, but he just isn't on the same level as Luongo, Brodeur, or Roy. The Wings will need to find a replacement for Osgood soon. He isn't exactly a spring chicken. If you truly believe Howard is going to make the team this year over Conklin you're kidding yourself. I agree that Conklin isn't in the Wings long-term plans but having him for the bargain price the Wings got him for, the fact that you know what you are getting in him at the NHL level, and being one that the team would probably feel more comfortable in front of come playoff time (in the event of an injury) are just a few of the reasons Conklin will be on the Wings this year while Howard spends this one last year in GR. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mindfly Report post Posted August 27, 2008 Larsson and McCollum ! They are this franchise future... but it will take a few years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shutemdown 23 Report post Posted August 27, 2008 Ever since we signed Howard, people have been saying to put him in net and let him play. Unfortunately, he really hasn't had THAT MUCH NHL experience yet, at least enough to deem him NHL ready. For this reason, I still think he'll be in GR this year. The more I hear about him, though, the more it seems like people are starting to doubt whether or not he'll ACTUALLY be the DRW goalie of the future. I understand that he'll need a chance to show he can compete, but doesn't it seem by now that we'd be hearing alot of good things about him? Whenever Babs or Holland is asked about Howard, they respond with a "we'll see" type answer, not a "Oh, yeah, he's ready to play. He's really going to make an impact, etc." I think I got more excited after I heard that we had signed Daniel Larsson, after reading about the awards he's recently earned himself. Also, McCollum seems like a really strong draft pick, and almost seems like he'll be VERY good once he puts on a little bit more size and gets a little bit more experience. I honestly DON'T see Howard being a long-term solution to our goalie situation, but hell... Ozzie is still kickin' ass, so I guess this would all just be speculation, anyways. We'll just have to wait and see. As with most other posts discussing individual players on the team, I'll end this by simply saying: I trust in Kenny Holland and Mike Babcock to make the right decisions and to play the player that deserves a spot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yzerfan1999 81 Report post Posted August 27, 2008 I like the sounds of this Larsson kid, but I think he is at least 5 years away. Osgood will be our goalie for the next couple of years, then I see Howard taking over for two seasons. If he can't prove himself then, it will be Larsson's turn. Howard will get the first shot at the starters position, but I think the Wings are sitting pretty being able to bank on Larsson if Howard never works out. One of those guys will turn into a starter capable of winning with the Wings, just like Osgood. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holiday 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2008 Hasek will change his mind on retiring and be back to take Osgood's spot for a couple years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dobbles 252 Report post Posted August 27, 2008 i always get baffled by topics like this... you hear folks say 'he was supposed to be really good but hasn't played yet' and then write the guy off... but if he hasn't gotten the chance to play, how do you know if he really was good or not??? i think howard has been a very good goalie in the ahl. at times, one of the best in that league. yet people write him off because he hasn't been given a chance. its not his fault that he doesn't get playing time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OsGOD 3 Report post Posted August 27, 2008 Tom McCollum looked pretty decent for Guelph... he played strong as the Whalers ate his team marching onto the champtionships in 07 but he wasn't the issue! I am pretty excited we picked him up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LIDDYGIBBY5 1 Report post Posted August 27, 2008 i always get baffled by topics like this... you hear folks say 'he was supposed to be really good but hasn't played yet' and then write the guy off... but if he hasn't gotten the chance to play, how do you know if he really was good or not??? i think howard has been a very good goalie in the ahl. at times, one of the best in that league. yet people write him off because he hasn't been given a chance. its not his fault that he doesn't get playing time. If he were a great goalie he would be getting time in Det. If he was better than the other options, he wouldn't be playing in GR. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OsGOD 3 Report post Posted August 27, 2008 If he were a great goalie he would be getting time in Det. If he was better than the other options, he wouldn't be playing in GR. Well he was playing 3rd fiddle to Osgood and Hasek.... not many teams would bench either of them to allow a third stringer to play.... He is a victim of circumstance here in Detroit, he would be playing in the big leagues on another team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dobbles 252 Report post Posted August 27, 2008 If he were a great goalie he would be getting time in Det. If he was better than the other options, he wouldn't be playing in GR. though osgod already replied, its because he isn't right now better than osgood or hasek was. though personally, i think he would be better served as primary backup this year, which i doubt will happen with conklin. but every goalie has to start somewhere. few and far between ar the guys that can get called up and instantly be a #1. that doesn't mean he doesn't have talent or that he won't have a great career. but in order for that to happen, or even for it to proven otherwise, he needs to actually play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsgnut_19 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2008 Lidstrom has 2 yrs left on his contract. If he hangs up his skates, i say we replace him with the only person who could come close to replacing him.. Roberto. who also has 2 yrs left on his contract. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z and D for the C 712 Report post Posted August 27, 2008 ^ what? o.O Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yemack 1 Report post Posted August 27, 2008 Howard has shown that he can be solid but then again, he hasnt done anything to prove that Wings should have kept him over Osgood and Hasek. Personally I thought he choked little bit when he was called up last season.. if he can just block out anxiety and whatever from his mind, I think he will be a GREAT goalie for us. Well I haven't seen Conklin play other than odd clips here and there but my gut feeling says Howard is going down to GR this season. However, with slight change in equipment regulation and all, who knows what's going to happen after camp and during season? I will be happy whoever gets the No1 job or No2, as long as he gives our team chance to win and save whatever he's supposed to save. (I know.. easier said than done in detroit) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted August 27, 2008 The future of the Wings goaltending after this upcoming season... Curtis Joseph Dominik Hasek Manny Legace That'll be fun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,153 Report post Posted August 27, 2008 The future of the Wings goaltending after this upcoming season... Curtis Joseph Dominik Hasek Manny Legace That'll be fun. ...don't laugh! I guarantee, if Osgood takes a poop/injured this year, Holland will NOT go into the playoffs with Conklin/Howard... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeeRYCE 2 Report post Posted August 28, 2008 Ken Holland doesn't care about goaltending. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miller76 463 Report post Posted August 28, 2008 Ray Emery is the future! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheCaptain19 49 Report post Posted August 28, 2008 why doesnt anyone ever mention conklin? he is a very good goalie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeeRYCE 2 Report post Posted August 28, 2008 why doesnt anyone ever mention conklin? he is a very good goalie. I have faith in the guy, but really his only great achievement in his NHL career was his absolutely solid run with the Pens when Fleury was hurt. Not to say it's a bad thing, I mean at 750K, he's a bargain... But we can't really look at 30 games as a reference for such great goaltending. As I say though, 750K, what the hell? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
