Opie 308 Report post Posted November 17, 2008 Anybody think this team is looking similar to the '08 Tigers? By means of trying to load up on all star players and not enough on defense or team chemistry? maybe too many egos in the locker room?? Before asking this question shouldn't we wait until the Wings record at least begins to resemble that of the tiger? Why worry now, simple so that if the Team doesn't win people can say, see I knew it all along. It is easier to predict doom and gloom and that the world is falling than it is to say, well at least they are winning and I believe the coaching staff and the team will figure this out. And if you do the former no one labels you a homer for having faith in your team. Now let the yelling at me begin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puckloo39 5,686 Report post Posted November 17, 2008 Anybody think this team is looking similar to the '08 Tigers? By means of trying to load up on all star players and not enough on defense or team chemistry? maybe too many egos in the locker room?? Maybe. Babs ought to be able to handle that, though. I have faith in him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johnny Law 15 Report post Posted November 17, 2008 Part of it is poor play defensively and not wanting to do the work necessary to dominate. The other part is unbelievably high expectations, you win the Stanley Cup and then nab the best free agent in the game. Unless they win every game 20-0, someone would be disappointed. Some people like to head off any major disappointments early on, so when a team they have bought into and become a full %100 supporter looks like it may be headed for major disappointment some will jump off early to try to avoid the full impact. Its human nature. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saran 1 Report post Posted November 17, 2008 The funny thing I've been thinking about is over the last couple years, before we won the cup, we were complaining about how the Red Wings just cruised through the regular season. A lot of us hoped that they would face some adversity; forcing them to improve their game and be in more "playoff like" games. Now that we are facing some adversity (3rd in the League isn't much adversity) most of us (including me) are just losing it and snapping. This is what we asked for in years before. Our team will just improve to get better in the areas they are suffering. Hopefully this adversity will make our team stronger and warm them up for playoff battles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NEpats1028 1 Report post Posted November 17, 2008 Maybe. Babs ought to be able to handle that, though. I have faith in him. I have faith in him as well. However not all All-Star teams succeed. The '02 Wings were filled with vets that knew how to spread the puck around. can this team do it? Ozzie needs to get his head in the game, 7 goals vs. Pitt aint gonna cut it. Is Conks starting tonight vs EDM? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redwing_sparty 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2008 i worry because i dont want to see this giving up 3 goals + a night turn into the story of the season. On paper the wings have what ought to be one of the top defensive units in the nhl. but lately the defense and goaltending has been more like what fans in toronto are used to then what wings fans expect to see. and its not like the wings played great defense for one season and then are falling back into an old pattern. we are used to seeing excellent d. I can't recall seeing this many high scoring games in years. Hossa has been a beast. If we had not signed him we very likely would not have the relatively impressive record that we do. (apologies for the "we's" to those of you who are offended) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoWings1905 2,694 Report post Posted November 17, 2008 "To Whom Much Is Given, Much Is Expected." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gutierrez 7 Report post Posted November 17, 2008 As someone mentioned , this team reminds me of the 05-06 team. Great power play, a lot of talent, but too much pressure on the offense and decent goaltending but nothing spectacular. Hopefully this season doesn't end the same as that one did. It just feels like guys are relying on their talent too much and not working. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CaliWingsNut Report post Posted November 17, 2008 Before asking this question shouldn't we wait until the Wings record at least begins to resemble that of the tiger? Why worry now, simple so that if the Team doesn't win people can say, see I knew it all along. It is easier to predict doom and gloom and that the world is falling than it is to say, well at least they are winning and I believe the coaching staff and the team will figure this out. And if you do the former no one labels you a homer for having faith in your team. Now let the yelling at me begin. QFT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Crazy 201 Report post Posted November 17, 2008 Not to take anything away from them, but they've been a scary scary team for the past 4 years and nothing really happened when it mattered most. We're worried because our 11 wins are 1-goal wins (empty net goals count as 1 goal win for me) and mostly against bottom feeders. When we faced a true test again SJ, Anaheim and Pitt we failed. We haven't showed the kind of puck possession dominance we're used to seeing the last couple of years in any one game so far. This is so true. when faced against a playoff team we have been beat 0-3. The teams we have been beating by a goal or two are the ones we should be killing. As Detroit fans we have come to trust that our defence will be awesome night in and night out. So far this year they have been just average so we become concerned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheBigRedMachine 2 Report post Posted November 17, 2008 I'm not worried. The team will get it together. I think Conklin coming in will aid in lighting the proverbial fire under Osgood's arse. As well, having the goalie switch will let the players know to pick up the slack. As for the defense, Lids is the King of D and I will leave it in his hands confidentely. Perhaps I should ask myself, "Why am I not worrying?" Slainte, TheBigRedMachine Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heroes of Hockeytown 694 Report post Posted November 17, 2008 maybe too many egos in the locker room?? It's the same team as last year, plus Hossa and minus Hasek. That's a net gain, yo. The Wings locker room oozes leadership and discipline and class, there's no way ego's got anything to do with anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrossoverThrash 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2008 Anybody think this team is looking similar to the '08 Tigers? By means of trying to load up on all star players and not enough on defense or team chemistry? maybe too many egos in the locker room?? this is a hockey forum...baseball sucks dont talk about it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted November 17, 2008 this is a hockey forum...baseball sucks dont talk about it Chill man it is called a comparison. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OsGOD 3 Report post Posted November 18, 2008 not only a comparison... a comparison between team owned by the same person. I think its a valid statement Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thedatsyukian 7 Report post Posted November 18, 2008 I'm more worried about their constant third period failures than anything else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted November 18, 2008 When the Wings regress to a borderline playoff team like Edmonton my expectations will change accordingly, but for now you'll have to excuse me if watching the team that dominated the league last year + Marian Hossa eke out mistake-laden 1-goal slopfests against teams they should be soundly defeating on a fairly regular basis does not meet my expectations. Then alter your expectations. I'm sure you'll find the games much more enjoyable if you're not being constantly disappointed. That's well within your control; don't act as if your expectations are somehow absolute, because they entirely hinge upon your choice of perspective. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HadThomasVokounOnFortSt 878 Report post Posted November 18, 2008 Because Osgod is no God right now. Our defense is in a struggle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cnot19 191 Report post Posted November 18, 2008 Three things that worry me Defense Goaltending The Sharks- right now we are no where physical enough or good enough defensivly to beat them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted November 18, 2008 The Sharks- right now we are no where physical enough or good enough defensivly to beat them. Deja Vu... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StaticWithABeat 0 Report post Posted November 18, 2008 Then alter your expectations. I'm sure you'll find the games much more enjoyable if you're not being constantly disappointed. That's well within your control; don't act as if your expectations are somehow absolute, because they entirely hinge upon your choice of perspective. I don't expect perfection from the Wings, but I did think they would keep more pucks out of the net then they have given up. I probably would enjoy games more if I expected flaky defense and blown third period leads all the time, but somehow I think the Wings are capable of better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrossoverThrash 0 Report post Posted November 18, 2008 Chill man it is called a comparison. You dont compare baseball to hockey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted November 18, 2008 You dont compare baseball to hockey Actually I do, and don't call me shirley. You may not, but then again your opinion is not the same as the rest of the world. But that is our opinion we welcome yours. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrossoverThrash 0 Report post Posted November 18, 2008 Actually I do, and don't call me shirley. You may not, but then again your opinion is not the same as the rest of the world. But that is our opinion we welcome yours. Well its not my opinion that this is a hockey forum Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted November 18, 2008 Anyone who thinks a regular season record means anything has not been a Wings fan for very long. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
