GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted January 18, 2009 He's like the anti-you! That's by far the most accurate description of me that either you or anyone else has ever posted on LGW. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Never_Retire_Steve 35 Report post Posted January 19, 2009 Seriously, how does this guy keep his job? 95% of the people I know or comment on Pierre hate him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Son of a Wing 1,644 Report post Posted January 19, 2009 Heres a link to the video if anyone is interested.... NHL on NBC So go here then click on the "To Fight or Not to Fight" video link. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elriqo28 2 Report post Posted January 19, 2009 he just wants to get in bed with Bettman. what a Kiss a$$! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtomicPunk 296 Report post Posted January 19, 2009 If I ever see him, I will fight him. Wish Milbury would have pulled his suit jacked over his head and commenced wailing on him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
imisssergei 0 Report post Posted January 19, 2009 I think that Milbury and Pierre genuinely dislike each other. I've gotten that vibe before, and my friend mentioned that's what he thought about this exchange too. I don't think that a producer could have picked a better pair to talk about this topic if they had to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
up2here 41 Report post Posted January 19, 2009 I actually beleive the NHL needs to seriously curtail fighting in order to survive. A big reason the NHL lacks a major TV deal is the lack of exposure in the Southern states. There are 30 million people in Southern California, 24 million people in Texas, 18 million in Florida and 10 million people in Georgia and a vast majority of these people (Over 80 million potential fans)dont understand fighting. They watch football,basketball and baseball religously,none of which have fights on a regular basis.While I myself dont mind seeing a good fight I can also understand how it could also be difficult to explain to young child why these men are fighting. Pierre Maguire is a tool for sure but he may have a misguided point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted January 19, 2009 I actually beleive the NHL needs to seriously curtail fighting in order to survive. A big reason the NHL lacks a major TV deal is the lack of exposure in the Southern states. There are 30 million people in Southern California, 24 million people in Texas, 18 million in Florida and 10 million people in Georgia and a vast majority of these people (Over 80 million potential fans)dont understand fighting. They watch football,basketball and baseball religously,none of which have fights on a regular basis.While I myself dont mind seeing a good fight I can also understand how it could also be difficult to explain to young child why these men are fighting. Pierre Maguire is a tool for sure but he may have a misguided point. You can't teach elephants how to fly. The league should not try to cater to people in the South, especially if they have to get rid of fighting to do it. Basketball and baseball are for *******. No reason the NHL should be the same. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mors 201 Report post Posted January 19, 2009 Anything Pierre McGuire says should be taken with a grain of salt...this guy is a complete idiot and a ******. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
up2here 41 Report post Posted January 19, 2009 So you feel the NHL/Bettman need to reduce fighting in order to recruit new fans/more revenue thru tv deals - while pi$$ing off us long-time diehard hockey fans whom enjoy a good scrap? Not a good idea IMHO; I'd rather hockey remain a "niche" sport, & stick to it's roots rather than to alter the game in order to acquire more fans/revenue. Basically yes but I dont think the NHL will survive as a niche sport. I think most of us long time fans will still watch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thedisappearer 291 Report post Posted January 19, 2009 Basically yes but I dont think the NHL will survive as a niche sport. I think most of us long time fans will still watch. It's survived for a few years as a niche sport. Like, a hundred or so, give or take a decade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
up2here 41 Report post Posted January 19, 2009 It's survived for a few years as a niche sport. Like, a hundred or so, give or take a decade. Times and salaries have changed,and now were in a recession. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DMAC 25 18 Report post Posted January 19, 2009 i relize fighting has gone down but havent they relized since the strike the NHL hasnt been the same as it was before, i remember watching red wings games when i was a kid and seeing the fights between colorado and detroit its not the same without the fighting, so i'm sorry if they want to make the league worse then take it out but it just would not be the same and they'll lose more fans Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest micah Report post Posted January 19, 2009 Pierre cannot possibly be as much of a f***tard as he comes off as. I suspect the joke is on anyone who tunes in and talks about anything he says. There's no such thing as bad publicity - and all his handlers care about is that people watch and talk, crating a buzz and name recognition. As long as he isn't such an ass that he makes people quit watching en masse, he's doing his job. He's an agitator, no different than the hockey players he pretends not to like. He'll do whatever he can get away with to get under your skin. There are two ways to deal with him. either pretend he's Jordin Tootoo and ignore him, or pretend he's Jordin Tootoo and pound the snot out of him. Beat-downs are hard to deliver through the TV, so option #1 seems best. If we all ignore this pos, he will not be effective and he'll eventually be replaced by someone better:) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted January 19, 2009 You can't teach elephants how to fly. The league should not try to cater to people in the South, especially if they have to get rid of fighting to do it. Basketball and baseball are for *******. No reason the NHL should be the same. Just because you don't like baseball or basketball means that it is a p***y sport. I can bet you that many people who enjoy or play those sports don't understand hockey that much, and falsely label hockey as a stupid sport as well. I like hockey, plus I like watching baseball and basketball as well. Used to play baseball and basketball a good bit when I was younger and enjoyed them both. Does that make me a p***y? Does liking sports outside of hockey make me a p***y? And there is plenty of good basketball up north in your neck of the woods in the Pistons, Big Ten basketball with schools like Ohio State and Michigan State and Purdue usually consistently good for example. Are you going to call basketball a p***y sport to those that like basketball up north there or people who play on those teams? Basketball and baseball aren't limited to just being popular in the South. What does basketball and baseball have to do with this whole thread anyways? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
up2here 41 Report post Posted January 19, 2009 Just because you don't like baseball or basketball means that it is a p***y sport. I can bet you that many people who enjoy or play those sports don't understand hockey that much, and falsely label hockey as a stupid sport as well. I like hockey, plus I like watching baseball and basketball as well. Used to play baseball and basketball a good bit when I was younger and enjoyed them both. Does that make me a p***y? Does liking sports outside of hockey make me a p***y? And there is plenty of good basketball up north in your neck of the woods in the Pistons, Big Ten basketball with schools like Ohio State and Michigan State and Purdue usually consistently good for example. Are you going to call basketball a p***y sport to those that like basketball up north there or people who play on those teams? Basketball and baseball aren't limited to just being popular in the South. What does basketball and baseball have to do with this whole thread anyways? My original point was that fans in Southern States love Football,Baseball and Basketball,none of which have fights on a regular basis, and that the NHL may need these fans to survive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted January 19, 2009 My original point was that fans in Southern States love Football,Baseball and Basketball,none of which have fights on a regular basis, and that the NHL may need these fans to survive. Gotcha. To some degree they might need fans like those to survive, and that's entirely debatable and it could be gone about all day endlessly without getting anywhere. Basically where I'm trying to come from is it's pretty ridiculous to dog on other sports just because you don't like them, cause plenty of people do the same thing to hockey unfairly, and it doesn't matter what sport you play, to excel at it takes a lot of practice and dedication. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest micah Report post Posted January 19, 2009 ridiculous to dog on other sports just because you don't like them, cause plenty of people do the same thing to hockey unfairly, and it doesn't matter what sport you play, to excel at it takes a lot of practice and dedication. So? It takes lots of practice and dedication to be a male figureskater, that doesn't mean figureskating isn't a ***** sport. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted January 19, 2009 So? It takes lots of practice and dedication to be a male figureskater, that doesn't mean figureskating isn't a ***** sport. It isn't. Just because a sport isn't as physical as hockey or football means it is p***y-like. It just means that it isn't as physical of a sport as hockey or football. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heroes of Hockeytown 694 Report post Posted January 19, 2009 I'd love to see this guy put up with the intense physical regimen it takes to be any kind professional athlete and then come back and say it's for *******. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest micah Report post Posted January 19, 2009 (edited) Hi there. I shot trap professionally. It's a ***** sport too. So there. I also raced motorcycles semi-professionally. It is not a ***** sport, despite the fact that little physical conditioning was necessary. ***** sports are sports with little or no bravery required. Playing basketball isn't ever scary, unless you're playing in a park in East St Louis. Playing hockey, boxing, racing motorcycles, cliff-jumping, cannot be argued to be ***** sports. I also used to date an olympic hopeful, and later succesful colligiate, swimmer. Swimming is a ***** sport (unless you're swimming accross the English Chanel...and there are sharks with frickin' laser beams on their heads chasing you, and you're forced to eat less than an hour before you swim...and that meal is poisoned with arsenic - that wouldn't be *****. That girl was in amazing shape and tough as nails, but the sport required no balls, and really no risk. Certainly it required training and condidtioning and practice, but no real risk. That's what makes it pusy, not the lack of physical skill. Edited January 19, 2009 by micah Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heroes of Hockeytown 694 Report post Posted January 19, 2009 ***** sports are sports with little or no bravery required. What a fanciful definition you've invented. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted January 19, 2009 Hi there. I shot trap professionally. It's a ***** sport too. So there. I also raced motorcycles semi-professionally. It is not a ***** sport, despite the fact that little physical conditioning was necessary. ***** sports are sports with little or no bravery required. Playing basketball isn't ever scary, unless you're playing in a park in East St Louis. Playing hockey, boxing, racing motorcycles, cliff-jumping, cannot be argued to be ***** sports. I tore my ACL playing basketball after getting run into on a play, so you might want to re-consider your thought there. You are still missing the point, just because some sports don't have as much contact as others doesn't make them p***y-like. It just means they don't have as much contact. And given how it isn't uncommon here for people to get up in arms when people dog on hockey without understanding it, maybe consider not doing the same to other sports just because you don't like them or think they are as cool as hockey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ms_Hockey 0 Report post Posted January 19, 2009 (edited) I actually beleive the NHL needs to seriously curtail fighting in order to survive. A big reason the NHL lacks a major TV deal is the lack of exposure in the Southern states. There are 30 million people in Southern California, 24 million people in Texas, 18 million in Florida and 10 million people in Georgia and a vast majority of these people (Over 80 million potential fans)dont understand fighting. They watch football,basketball and baseball religously,none of which have fights on a regular basis.While I myself dont mind seeing a good fight I can also understand how it could also be difficult to explain to young child why these men are fighting. Pierre Maguire is a tool for sure but he may have a misguided point. I'm failing to understand the logic here. Fighting is a part of hockey and it has been since way back in the day. Taking it out of the game simply because people who don't watch hockey don't understand it doesn't make sense. If they don't understand the reason for the fighting - chances are they don't understand all that much about hockey. I don't, for the life of me, understand basketball. Doesn't mean they should start removing aspects of the game just to get me interested. If those people you're referring to want to watch a hockey game, that's up to them. If they watch it enough, they'll understand it more. Anybody who follows hockey knows it's an emotional sport. If a young child asks why the men are fighting, the parent can tell them that's their job on the team or whatever else they'd like to say. However, hockey is hockey. You may pull in some more viewers by eliminating the fighting, but you'll lose a bunch of others entirely for changing the sport itself. EDIT: And just on a side note (I could be entirely wrong), comparing southern states to northern states - there's really not a whole lot who HAVE hockey teams in the NHL. Texas does, but Texas is dominated by their football team so it's natural that the football team would get more publicity. Florida does, but they aren't exactly anything to tune in to watch. Some other southern states do, but there's not a whole lot you could add to that list. Edited January 19, 2009 by Ms_Hockey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest micah Report post Posted January 19, 2009 (edited) I tore my ACL playing basketball after getting run into on a play, so you might want to re-consider your thought there. Impressive, I guess bkb isn't a ***** sport. Once I hurt my foot when I stepped in some jacks. It's not a ***** sport either I guess. Edited January 19, 2009 by micah Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
