Statts 4 Report post Posted February 1, 2009 (edited) Refs take away a goal from the Hawks because a high stick that was not called several minutes after the goal. Then score to tie the game 1-1. No explanation as to why. I would be PISSED if I was a Hawks fan. This game is getting good real quick. Edited February 1, 2009 by Statts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bluedevils_13 0 Report post Posted February 1, 2009 A very complex series of events happened in this game right now, it's hard for me to describe so I hope someone else saw this. But, what happened was Chechoo got high sticked by Kane, Bolland scored a goal to make it 2-0 and the play continued. After another whistle they decided to review the high sticking play, and for some reason gave the high sticking penalty (4 min major) to Versteeg, when it was clearly Kane. Sence the high sticking penalty occured before the goal, they took it off the board and the Sharks got the penalty, and than just scored on the powerplay, so the game is now 1-1. To add to the weirdness they didn't put the time back on the clock to the point where the high stick happened. I never knew a penalty could be reviewed like that, and it could disallow a goal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bluedevils_13 0 Report post Posted February 1, 2009 (edited) haha we made the same thread at the same time. Nice. That was certainly a weird play, it's very disgusting that refs can dictate the game THIS much. The game is really loosing its form because of the way thes refs are deciding to call these games. It's a damn shame. I will always love the NHL, but the game I used to love is slowly becoming something else that I just don't personally like. Edited February 1, 2009 by Bluedevils_13 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Statts 4 Report post Posted February 1, 2009 Yeah posted the same thing... never seen anything like it . No explanation from the ref or nothing... unbelievable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Statts 4 Report post Posted February 1, 2009 Wow. People here would be screaming bloody murder if this happened to the Wings, and for good reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bluedevils_13 0 Report post Posted February 1, 2009 Ya, to take away a goal from a team like that is ridiculous, and the fact SJ scored on the PP is just salt in the wound. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Statts 4 Report post Posted February 1, 2009 No doubt Not like Cheechoo got tomahawked, just a unintentional high stick should set up for a nice 2nd and 3rd though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted February 1, 2009 Reffing in this league is absolutely atrocious. What a joke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egroen 384 Report post Posted February 1, 2009 Did the ref get shot in Chicago or something? There has to be some recourse for Chicago on this one... this is beyond wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heroes of Hockeytown 694 Report post Posted February 1, 2009 A penalty is definitely not a reviewable play... What's the deal? Surely the referees know that...? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Statts 4 Report post Posted February 1, 2009 (edited) A penalty is definitely not a reviewable play... What's the deal? Surely the referees know that...? Apparently the linesman saw the high stick and the refs decided to call the penalty after more than 2 minutes of play and a hawks goal without putting time back on the clock. Thats my understanding so far. Edited February 1, 2009 by Statts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thedisappearer 291 Report post Posted February 1, 2009 Did the ref get shot in Chicago or something? ******* he-larry-us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edicius 3,269 Report post Posted February 1, 2009 Wow, I mean, I can understand a ref missing a call - it happens. But this? This is beyond completely blowing a call. This is a case of "Ah, screw the rulebook, we're doing what we want out here because we're the officials!". Someone needs to get disciplined over this one, hardcore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heroes of Hockeytown 694 Report post Posted February 1, 2009 Apparently the linesman saw the high stick and the refs decided to call the penalty after more than 2 minutes of play and a hawks goal without putting time back on the clock. Thats my understanding so far. Yeah, I just heard the breakdown on HNIC. Linesman isn't allowed to make the call but he told the referee after the next stoppage (which happened to be a goal...) and they decided to roll with that. That's the first time I've ever heard of that happening and I don't think it sets a very good precedent at all. The referee sees it or he doesn't. If linesman are going to make calls, let them make calls. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Statts 4 Report post Posted February 1, 2009 3-1 Hawks!! The fact that I am rooting for the Hawks is sickening , but they are controlling the play so far Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted February 1, 2009 Yeah, I just heard the breakdown on HNIC. Linesman isn't allowed to make the call but he told the referee after the next stoppage (which happened to be a goal...) and they decided to roll with that. That's the first time I've ever heard of that happening and I don't think it sets a very good precedent at all. The referee sees it or he doesn't. If linesman are going to make calls, let them make calls. It actually happens fairlyl often (linesman making calls), just not necessarily under these circumstances. If it was simply a high stick, nothing changes, but since it drew blood (double minor), the linesman is able to make that call. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Statts 4 Report post Posted February 1, 2009 It actually happens fairlyl often (linesman making calls), just not necessarily under these circumstances. If it was simply a high stick, nothing changes, but since it drew blood (double minor), the linesman is able to make that call. If that's the case, then the linesmen should be able to blow the play dead when the high stick occurred. Epic fail Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heroes of Hockeytown 694 Report post Posted February 1, 2009 Yes, I downloaded the rule book just to be certain and there is an eerily specific exception for linesman to make a call with regards to, "Double-minor penalty where it is apparent that an injury has resulted from the high stick that has gone undetected by the Referees," and "Should a linesman witness a foul (above) committed by an attacking player or goalkeeper (undeteced by the Referee) prior to the attacking team scoring a goal, the Linesman shall report what he witnessed to a Referee, the goal shall be disallowed and the appropriate penalty assessed." So, uh, nice followin' of the rulebook gang. How bizarre. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ComradeWasabi 109 Report post Posted February 1, 2009 I bet that after that happened, someone at NHL Headquarters in Toronto had to quickly run and edit the rulebook and upload it as soon as possible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike 0 Report post Posted February 1, 2009 I am happy/mad that the Blackhawks won. I am happy because the gap between the Wings and the Sharks remains at 8 and I am mad because the gap between the Wings and Chitown is down to 7. The Wings better get their asses moving and fast. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bluedevils_13 0 Report post Posted February 1, 2009 Ya but the sad thing is, they put the wrong guy in the box, and even from any angle they showed on the broadcast it was extremely clear it was Kane not Versteeg. What were they looking at? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MidMichSteve 1,115 Report post Posted February 1, 2009 Can't you just see O'Halloran rubbing his hands with glee? Ohhhh can't wait for the last 2 minutes of a playoff game to use that against the Redwings! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mindfly Report post Posted February 1, 2009 (edited) NHL Rulebook Rule 33.4 The linesman must report upon completion of play: Double-Minor penalty when it is apparent that an injury has resulted from a high-stick that has gone undetected by the referees So the call was correct imo, the san jose player did get injured did he not? Edited February 1, 2009 by mindfly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted February 1, 2009 Same thing in Montreal vs L.A. game... Ref's 4 - Kings 3 NHL is joke, I don't know what Buttman wants but this is ugly for fans... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted February 2, 2009 NHL Rulebook Rule 33.4 The linesman must report upon completion of play: Double-Minor penalty when it is apparent that an injury has resulted from a high-stick that has gone undetected by the referees So the call was correct imo, the san jose player did get injured did he not? Yes, good work mindfly. Have you looked up offsides yet? How about icing? I'm very pleased to see you're learning about hockey. This will particularly help you with your career. How long have you been playing again? Your whole life?? LOL!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
