Hossa Fight! :) Video

[seeinred 1,488]

No one is saying that so get that through your head. I think the majority of us would be completely satisfied with anything that even remotely resembles the toughness of a professional North American hockey team. We are by far the least interested team when it comes to fighting that any pro team in North America has ever iced... NHL, AHL, ECHL... Literally.

I think the majority of us would be satisfied with this team regardless of how many fighting majors it has.

[elriqo28 2]

I didn't get to see the game last night but was wondering why he got a misconduct and now I know! Strap down that jersey Marian!

[Dominator2005 558]

Good for Hossa standing up for himself, but god this team is f***ing pathetic right now in the fighting department.

It's been a while since the JLA has seen some real entertainment when it comes to that part of the game.

I agree with you - it's SAD to see Hossa fighting but Holland will NEVER go after someone who can fight (Neil)...

"The fans at the Joe were so excited that they rose to their feet at the sight of Dan Hamhuis and Johan Franzen staring each other down moments before. The excitement in Mickey Redmond’s voice was evident as well."

http://www.hockeyfights.com/quickhits/qh/e...-fight-drought/

[SouthernWingsFan 854]

I think the majority of us would be satisfied with this team regardless of how many fighting majors it has.

Quoted for truth.

And spare me the droopy eyes or angry rants of "Why is it a crime to question what this organization does?" I get it.

This team does not scrap much. It is not sad or pathetic. It just means that this team does not scrap much, nothing more/less. It has been this way for a while now. I'll take consistent winning and winning a Cup here/there every few years as being more important than possibly having 10-15 more fights a year.

[henrik40 76]

I think his willingness to drop the gloves last night shows he wants to be on this team for a long time, or at least I hope. Can you tell he didn't plan on fighting last night, or probably any night for that matter.

[HOCKEY MATTERS 167]

Sounds good to me. Although I have Neil down as one of Lilja's victims already.

It'd be good to see Franzen become that legit power forward, but tonight he showed his willingness (or lack thereof) to drop the gloves.

Seriously? He just got back from a hand injury and you want him to drop the gloves? Seriously?

[Doc Holiday 0]

OMG WE NEED MORE ENFORCERS HOW BORING PATHETIC AND LAME DUCKS ROCK CAUSE THEY FIGHT NO SELL OUTS.

Yeah, I think we already know that you do not like to watch puck possession hockey, and that you would rather see more fighting.

[thedisappearer 291]

Any one else notice that since the mid 90's the Wings don't fight much... AND are the most successful organization in the league? Face it, fighting majors don't win, the Red Wings do.

[Zeta Power 40 1]

SIGN HIM NOW KENNY!!!!!

[Spinner 6]

I was conflicted last night. I was excited to see Hossa fight and stand up for the team at the same time during the whole fight saying, don't get hurt, don't get hurt. Personally, I don't care if we have fights or not. I like a good scrap on the ice now and then. The Wings do just fine without them but it is good to see an occasional reminder that we don't back down from them either. I still would like to see Downey in the lineup. He doesn't have to fight all the time, but knowing he's there would give some of these players who think dirty hits on the Wings will come without retribution a little pause to think before they hit. I was totally impressed with Hossa last night. First by getting the puck for Huds on his first milestone of 20 goals, then standing up for the little guy when he received a face into the boards. To me this shows that he is not here for just himself, but for the team.

[Guest E_S_A_D]

See why we need an enforcer?

Kopecky, Lilja, and basically 80% of the team should be ashamed for letting one of our superstars handle his own business last night. That being said, hats off to Marian! Terrific job standing up for the team... Things are a little different in Detroit than having Laraque last year as the enforcer, Marian.

Here's a good article posted last night, highlights the excitement Detroit fans felt for a fight.

Hossa Ends Wings’ Fight Drought

Feb 19, 2009 1:29 AM John Chandler0 Comments

If someone was going to break the Red Wings’ fighting drought, you wouldn’t expect it to be Marian Hossa. However Detroit’s biggest offseason acquisition did just that when he exchanged punches with Predators defenseman Ryan Suter last night.

It was the first fight that the Wings had been involved in since Andreas Lilja took on Jared Boll on November 28. That’s over 30 games ago. The fans at the Joe were so excited that they rose to their feet at the sight of Dan Hamhuis and Johan Franzen staring each other down moments before. The excitement in Mickey Redmond’s voice was evident as well.

Detroit fans aren’t advised to expect this kind of thing more often now, that’s for sure. But I’m sure some will take solace in the fact that Darren McCarty expects to start a conditioning stint with the Grand Rapids Griffins within the next week.

Lovely.

[Louisville 112]

Sounds good to me. Although I have Neil down as one of Lilja's victims already.

It'd be good to see Franzen become that legit power forward, but tonight he showed his willingness (or lack thereof) to drop the gloves.

Hmmm

Didn't he just come back from a hand injury? I don't think I'd be dropping gloves (in a contract year) the game I got back from a hand injury. Plus, if your looking for Franzen to fight and win on a consistent basis then your barking up the wrong tree.

[Guest E_S_A_D]

Lidstrom had HIGH praise for Hossa... Obviously Wings management doesn't see the point that Wings players appreciate having someone to have their backs.

"He jumped in there and was defending his teammates, and I think that's great to see, even though we don't want to see him get hurt," Lidstrom said. "He does it all."

[Guest E_S_A_D]

Where's all the anti-enforcer people now? Don't you realize that this will happen more and more as games get out of hand in the scoring department? Wake up people. We had our top star fight last night and could've injured his hand or worse, because Jiri Hudler one of the smallest NHL players was getting abused. That's why you need a 'tough guy', Downey's waiting in GR.

Oh, btw, can we officially cut Kopecky now for God's sakes!?

[Guest E_S_A_D]

No, no it's not. You want fighting that bad, go watch a boxing match. To even suggest that there's something wrong with this team because they aren't Tyson on skates is almost ludicrous to me. There's a difference to me between being more physical and flat-out fighting all the damn time.

This attitude people here have about how the Red Wings suddenly need to turn into the Broad Street Bullies circa 1976 is puzzling at best and mind-numbing at worst. Shouldn't the overall objective be that we win games? As long as we're winning games, I don't give rat's patoot how we do it. Well, as long as we're winning fair and square. No hanky-panky needed.

Are you serious?

THIS IS HOCKEY... Don't you read the cliche' bumper stickers, "give blood play hockey". I think you were raised on figure skating and are having some internal issues, Electrophile, wow... horrible post.

[Louisville 112]

I'm curious, when a team "calls a player up" who is actually doing the calling? If it's Babcock then I am suprised he hasn't had Downey in more games. I really thought the second we had an injury it would have been Downey or Helm getting the call.

[Guest E_S_A_D]

I'm curious, when a team "calls a player up" who is actually doing the calling? If it's Babcock then I am suprised he hasn't had Downey in more games. I really thought the second we had an injury it would have been Downey or Helm getting the call.

It's Holland or Al Avila, the Detroit coaches over the years have had little say who gets call ups. The only one that had some say was Scotty Bowman, but that's because Holland actually repsected him. Holland and Avila have always been big proponents of Euro-hockey and marketing. I give them credit, they find a lot of diamonds in the rough; however, they lack the balls to make the big call ups of physical players.

There's no reason Abdelkader and Downey should not be on the Detroit roster, even if Downey is a healthy scratch against weak teams.

[Reds4Life 51]

It's Holland or Al Avila, the Detroit coaches over the years have had little say who gets call ups. The only one that had some say was Scotty Bowman, but that's because Holland actually repsected him. Holland and Avila have always been big proponents of Euro-hockey and marketing. I give them credit, they find a lot of diamonds in the rough; however, they lack the balls to make the big call ups of physical players.

There's no reason Abdelkader and Downey should not be on the Detroit roster, even if Downey is a healthy scratch against weak teams.

Yeah, you must be really really tough guy and I mean like VERY tough guy to call up Aaron Downey. Not everyone can do that. Too bad you don't run the team because I am sure you would build a VERY tough team consisting of true North Americans. And just FYI I hate Kopecky and I would take Downey over him any day. But you play a tough internet guy. wow. Beware of the Tough Internet Guys. They can beat you up

Edited February 19, 2009 by Reds4Life

[ManLuv4Clears 7]

Any one else notice that since the mid 90's the Wings don't fight much... AND are the most successful organization in the league? Face it, fighting majors don't win, the Red Wings do.

This is truly news to me. I've been watching the Wings since the late 80's and they have always had full-time enforcers and grit in the line-up until after they won the cup in '02. Don't know where you're getting your information. But then again, this is just another ignorant anti-enforcer poster who assumes the pro-enforcer crowd wants brawls on every line change, when really most of us just want someone in the lineup to stick up for teammates when s*** happens. Having Hossa have to do the dirty work, while awesome and respectful, is just not worth it because of the potential for injury.

[Guest E_S_A_D]

This is truly news to me. I've been watching the Wings since the late 80's and they have always had full-time enforcers and grit in the line-up until after they won the cup in '02. Don't know where you're getting your information. But then again, this is just another ignorant anti-enforcer poster who assumes the pro-enforcer crowd wants brawls on every line change, when really most of us just want someone in the lineup to stick up for teammates when s*** happens. Having Hossa have to do the dirty work, while awesome and respectful, is just not worth it because of the potential for injury.

Well said.

Mid 90s Wings didn't fight?

McCarty in his prime, Kocur, Probert in early 90s... what is this guy talking about?

[Guest E_S_A_D]

Yeah, you must be really really tough guy and I mean like VERY tough guy to call up Aaron Downey. Not everyone can do that. Too bad you don't run the team because I am sure you would build a VERY tough team consisting of true North Americans. And just FYI I hate Kopecky and I would take Downey over him any day. But you play a tough internet guy. wow. Beware of the Tough Internet Guys. They can beat you up

Here you go, you'll have more interesting things to read about here-

http://www.eurohockey.net/leagues/national.../eht/home.shtml

[Kevvie 0]

More and more we are going to see what happened here. Our good players are going to be fighting just so that there will be someone getting the backs of their teammates. I enjoyed the rough and tough hockey from days of yore (very poetic,huh?), but I prefer a good hockey game. When this team comes together, they can out-play any team out there. We don't have an enforcer...all of our skaters are good hockey players. That means that someone is going to have to man up once in a while. When other teams are being beat down by a superior Detroit team, things are going to get ugly. They get frustrated and want to change the pace of the game. With no skull cracker on the ice, someone will have to throw down the mitts just to keep the cheap shots from entering the equation. Cheap shots, quite often, are the ones that injure, by the way, because you don't see them coming and you can't prepare for it.

Do we need an enforcer? Definitely maybe. Do we need a tough guy to settle things down? Absolutely yes. Until we have that tough guy out there to bring other teams back to reality, our good players will have to drop the mitts so the rest don't get treated like a bunch of *******.

The problem is that they are all good players...we're just too good!

Edit: got a little bit of Man Love for Hossa after that scrap. He stepped up to the plate, good for him.

Edited February 19, 2009 by Kevvie

[Reds4Life 51]

Here you go, you'll have more interesting things to read about here-

http://www.eurohockey.net/leagues/national.../eht/home.shtml

Thanks, tough guy.

Edited February 19, 2009 by Reds4Life

[ManLuv4Clears 7]

Another quick thought, I've been listening to 97.1 all morning at work and they're giving a lot of attention to the Hossa "fight." Mind you, this is the flagship station for the Wings, which usually gives them about 5% coverage during the day, which is probably close to half of the conversation thus far today. People are calling and emailing in about the scrum and they talked about the fans at the Joe chanting Hossa's name when exiting. My point here is to reiterate that the Detroit market loves this type of hockey, and if the Wings played a slightly more physical game, there would be a lot less empty seats at the Joe.

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

No, no it's not. You want fighting that bad, go watch a boxing match. To even suggest that there's something wrong with this team because they aren't Tyson on skates is almost ludicrous to me. There's a difference to me between being more physical and flat-out fighting all the damn time.

This attitude people here have about how the Red Wings suddenly need to turn into the Broad Street Bullies circa 1976 is puzzling at best and mind-numbing at worst. Shouldn't the overall objective be that we win games? As long as we're winning games, I don't give rat's patoot how we do it. Well, as long as we're winning fair and square. No hanky-panky needed.

Without sugar coating it for you, you're shortsightedness is troublesome.

I'm not a proponent of enforcers. But I would love to have at least 1, maybe 2 capable players who can actually throw punches.

Dan Hamuis (not exactly a tough guy) rams Hudler's face into the boards. Ryan Suter (not exactly a tough guy) puts a forearm shiver into Hossa's face and then Hossa has to fight him.

It's puzzling to me that you would be ok with this. I wonder what we'd be saying if Hossa broke his hand in that fight.

It's fecking absurd to have Marian Hossa throwing punches with anybody. It's absurd that guys on other teams who aren't really that tough go ahead and take as many liberties as they want with our offensive players b/c they don't have to worry about anybody stepping up to fight them.

IMO, it's nice to see Hossa stick up for himself and the team. But I'd much rather it be somebody else throwing the punches. In the end it is about winning. And with that, its probably not a good idea to let your best players get pushed around, cheap shotted and forced into fighting.