creedie 2 Report post Posted March 16, 2009 I know this doesn't matter one bit, however it irks me. TSN just came out with this week's NHL power rankings and Detroit is ranked 4th again with a 7-2-1 ten game record. San Jose is 1 with a 4-5-1 and Boston 3 with 4-5-1 ten game record - with the exception of the Devils, how does this make any sense? Not even to mention the fact that Detroit sit atop the NHL with the most points.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted March 16, 2009 Because its annoying to always see the Red Wings on top. Keep in mind that these are just personal opinions. 9 times out of 10, record as well as Last 10 hold the most weight in these rankings....this is one of those 1 out of 10. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted March 16, 2009 TSN doesn't like the Wings, or the WC for that matter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whitneydatsyukrox 0 Report post Posted March 16, 2009 TSN Rankings are always one of the greatest mysteries of life for me. Last year they were much kinder to the Wings, so the Wings kind of dug their own grave for those this year. But still, there are teams 'ahead' of them that are doing so much worse at the moment. What can ya do! The standings can do the rest of the talking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vladifan 680 Report post Posted March 16, 2009 “I don’t care who plays Detroit, if (the Red Wings) decide they’re going to play that way, nobody’s going to beat them. Nobody’s going to beat them in a (playoff) series if they’re going to play that way. Teams are going to be lucky to win games against them. “They played a deliberate game. They played with work ahead of skill, and when you have their skill level, it’s pretty devastating if you’re the opposition.” -Columbus coach Ken Hitchcock after losing to the Wings 4-0 yesterday. This is re-quoted from another board here and I totally agree with the pudgy puck professor. If the Wings decide they're going to play as well as they can, NObody can or will beat them. I have no idea what it's gonna take to keep 'em fired up, but if it happens, look out because the Wings will win it all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MaynardJKeenan 1 Report post Posted March 16, 2009 Well Espn has them 2nd behing the Devils. That would be a great finals series, Wings vs Devils. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mors 201 Report post Posted March 16, 2009 Well the Wings did get smoked in two of the worst losses suffered by any team in the league this season, so even if they're back on solid footing now that's going to drop them down a few notches for the two-week period... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MacK_Attack 108 Report post Posted March 16, 2009 I know this doesn't matter one bit, however it irks me. TSN just came out with this week's NHL power rankings and Detroit is ranked 4th again with a 7-2-1 ten game record. San Jose is 1 with a 4-5-1 and Boston 3 with 4-5-1 ten game record - with the exception of the Devils, how does this make any sense? Not even to mention the fact that Detroit sit atop the NHL with the most points.... It's just to piss you off. Besides, if you read at the bottom, it's not a ranking of the teams play solely since the last update, but more a compilation of various statistics and other secret formulas. Note: Power Rankings are produced using a formula that takes into account a compilation of individual player grades based on statistical production. More importantly, the team grades intend to take into account which players are in the lineup to replace those who are out due to injury or suspension and aim to reflect which team would win a seven-game series on neutral ice. Rankings Posted: March 16. http://www.tsn.ca/fantasy_news/feature/?ID=549 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wingsallwin 0 Report post Posted March 16, 2009 Why do people care about power ranking from TSN? TSN is the lover of canadien teams, they all suck though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted March 16, 2009 Well Espn has them 2nd behing the Devils. That would be a great finals series, Wings vs Devils. Didn't go well for us last time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mors 201 Report post Posted March 16, 2009 Didn't go well for us last time. Don't remind me, that "Wings get tough in 97" video in the other thread with the previous years finals brought back enough bad memories. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akustyk 84 Report post Posted March 16, 2009 (edited) It's just to piss you off. Besides, if you read at the bottom, it's not a ranking of the teams play solely since the last update, but more a compilation of various statistics and other secret formulas. except, this "formula" is pure bulls***. I mean... sure I'm not gonna argue with anyone that Wings are pure best in the NHL right now or earlier into this season but TSN does put them low all the time. I check their ranking basically each week and it hasn't happened for a good while that they had Wings on top other that when it was simpy impossible to refuse the facts. TSN has obvious bias towards Canadian team and I get it. and I'm very much aware there are a number of quality teams who play as good if not better than the Wings. the point is, TSN rankings do the justice to the other teams when it's possible but not much to the Wings. not that I really care, but I'm not a Wings homer but still got impression that this rankings quite consistently rate Wings below their actual competitive strength. might be, that fans of the other teams think the same way, though whatever... the only ranking I care is the number of playoff games won Edited March 16, 2009 by akustyk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Third Man In 2,091 Report post Posted March 16, 2009 All power rankings are different. Cullen's are less volatile than most (on the other end is Scott Morrison's rankings on CBC.com, which can fluctuate widely from week to week). Cullen also factors in key injuries, which he explained to me as "top six forwards, top four defenceman and starting goaltenders." I don't think Cullen is unjustified in having the Wings at 4 right now. Yes, they had a good weekend against two mid-range teams, but the recent poor games against Nashville, Columbus, and Calgary together are a good argument that the Wings shouldn't be #1 right now. Don't worry--if the Wings keep playing like the last two games, they'll move up soon enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Third Man In 2,091 Report post Posted March 16, 2009 Also, on the supposed Canadian-bias on TSN: where's the evidence that this is reflected in the power rankings? Vancouver's the highest Canadian team at 7, which sounds about right at the moment. Calgary held steady at 10, which again sounds defensible since they have a better record than the teams immediately in front of them but have struggled recently (except for our gift to them last week). Montreal is #14, appropriate for a middle of the pack team playing inconsistently but currently in the playoffs. The others three are in the bottom 10, even Edmonton, who is currently in a playoff spot and perhaps a bit low. Sorry, but I just don't see the evidence of bias. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MacK_Attack 108 Report post Posted March 17, 2009 Also, on the supposed Canadian-bias on TSN: where's the evidence that this is reflected in the power rankings? Vancouver's the highest Canadian team at 7, which sounds about right at the moment. Calgary held steady at 10, which again sounds defensible since they have a better record than the teams immediately in front of them but have struggled recently (except for our gift to them last week). Montreal is #14, appropriate for a middle of the pack team playing inconsistently but currently in the playoffs. The others three are in the bottom 10, even Edmonton, who is currently in a playoff spot and perhaps a bit low. Sorry, but I just don't see the evidence of bias. And their supposed "favourite" team - the Leafs - are 28th, despite pulling off some decent games lately. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SDavis35 140 Report post Posted March 17, 2009 TSN Rankings are always one of the greatest mysteries of life for me. Last year they were much kinder to the Wings, so the Wings kind of dug their own grave for those this year. But still, there are teams 'ahead' of them that are doing so much worse at the moment. What can ya do! The standings can do the rest of the talking. I've never understood the Power Rankings either, I just figure you put a few good weeks together, you find yourself moving up, can't keep the puck out of your own net, you don't get the luxury of being #1. Standings tend to show the better overall team, steady winning percentage wins them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yzersyukstromberg 0 Report post Posted March 17, 2009 (edited) Why do people care about power ranking from TSN? TSN is the lover of canadien teams, they all suck though Don't be a Canadian hater...no need for it. TSN is not biased at all in my opinion, and when you sit there and say that all the Canadian teams suck, you're absolutely wrong. Calgary and Vancouver are two very solid teams that could be very strong opposition for whomever they play come playoff time. Edited March 17, 2009 by Yzersyukstromberg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
up2here 41 Report post Posted March 17, 2009 The Toronto Sports Network has been and is jealous of the Wings success. They will take any little thing they can to knock the Wings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted March 17, 2009 TSN is not biased at all in my opinion TSN intrinsically leans towards all things Canadian in the sports world. Whether that's "good" or "bad" is up for debate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MannyK 16 Report post Posted March 17, 2009 The Toronto Sports Network has been and is jealous of the Wings success. They will take any little thing they can to knock the Wings. TSN doesn't stand for "Toronto" Sports Network, it stands for The Sports Network. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Winged 8 Report post Posted March 17, 2009 Who cares? Best record says it all. It means even more due to the fact they have been talking crap about us all season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellowknife Redwing 57 Report post Posted March 17, 2009 (edited) TSN doesn't stand for "Toronto" Sports Network, it stands for The Sports Network. That's a running gag that's been around as long as TSN has been on the air. They're extremely biased when it comes to the Leafs, Jays, Raps, Argos, etc. Edited March 17, 2009 by Yellowknife Redwing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
up2here 41 Report post Posted March 17, 2009 TSN doesn't stand for "Toronto" Sports Network, it stands for The Sports Network. I'm well aware of what its "supposed" to stand for,but like someone else said,that is a running gag. I remember when the Skydome was being built there were daily updates....."Today 157 rivets were added to the Skydome"...that drove me nuts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerseyDevil 0 Report post Posted March 17, 2009 I know this doesn't matter one bit, however it irks me. TSN just came out with this week's NHL power rankings and Detroit is ranked 4th again with a 7-2-1 ten game record. San Jose is 1 with a 4-5-1 and Boston 3 with 4-5-1 ten game record - with the exception of the Devils, how does this make any sense? Not even to mention the fact that Detroit sit atop the NHL with the most points.... ESPN's power rankings are usually better, I like how they don't just look at total points--because you could just come up with the rankings yourself in that case. They factor in who is hot as well...#1 is New Jersey, #2 is Detroit over there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akustyk 84 Report post Posted March 17, 2009 (edited) Also, on the supposed Canadian-bias on TSN: where's the evidence that this is reflected in the power rankings? Vancouver's the highest Canadian team at 7, which sounds about right at the moment. Calgary held steady at 10, which again sounds defensible since they have a better record than the teams immediately in front of them but have struggled recently (except for our gift to them last week). Montreal is #14, appropriate for a middle of the pack team playing inconsistently but currently in the playoffs. The others three are in the bottom 10, even Edmonton, who is currently in a playoff spot and perhaps a bit low. Sorry, but I just don't see the evidence of bias. LOL are we talking about this single ranking or about TSN rankings at all? because I fail to see how single sample speak about whole thing in general. it's totally against laws of statistics I can clearly remember a good number of rankings over the past 3 or 4 years which had Canadian teams higher or much higher than they really deserved to be. excellent example being them stubbornly keeping Senators on top of the ranking during Ottawa's lowly streaks of 2005-06 season while Wings were ripping every team in the league. just to name an example... anyway... TSN pressumable bias towards Canadian teams is perfectly understandible(sp?) to me and I'm OK with that. I'd rather expect my media to pump up my country's teams. but truth being said their rankings often differ from SI.com or Yahoo or ESPN ranking exactly in positioning of Canadian teams. sure, those 3 are US based media but those discrepancies are simply too often and too frequent... Edited March 17, 2009 by akustyk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
