Kevin182 1 Report post Posted March 31, 2009 I know this is kinda last second but Lidstrom is going to be on in a few minutes. Thought I would pass the word around for all you Wing fans Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin182 1 Report post Posted March 31, 2009 I'm glad they talked about enforcers. Basically Lidstrom said he appreciates fighting as part of the game, but a skilled team like Detroit doesn't need enforcers because, as a team, they respond by punishing the goof-ball players (and teams) in other ways. - Paraphrased Yea I thought the interview was actually pretty good. It hit alot of good points such as fighting, taking less money, and being the first european trained captain to win the cup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted March 31, 2009 any chance it will be up on YouTube? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MannyK 16 Report post Posted April 1, 2009 is there a link to the video of this somewhere? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted April 1, 2009 (edited) I'm glad they talked about enforcers. Basically Lidstrom said he appreciates fighting as part of the game, but a skilled team like Detroit doesn't need enforcers because, as a team, they respond by punishing the goof-ball players (and teams) in other ways. - Paraphrased Edit: Listrom also said Ozzie will be fine and he continues to work hard. Dissing enforcers being needed on this team AND praising/showing confidence in Ozzie (a fellow Red Wing) ? A few people here might learn from our new captain (I still think it'll go over their heads). Or maybe he just doesn't know s*** despite being on this team. Way to go Lids. Edited April 1, 2009 by Shoreline Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kylee 727 Report post Posted April 1, 2009 first there is NCAA hockey on ESPN...then this? maybe ESPN is expanding hockey coverage? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lets go pavel 2 Report post Posted April 1, 2009 Dissing enforcers being needed on this team AND praising/showing confidence in Ozzie (a fellow Red Wing) ? A few people here might learn from our new captain (I still think it'll go over their heads). Or maybe he just doesn't know s*** despite being on this team. Way to go Lids. Doesn't sound like he's "dissing" enforcers, Shoreline, but I guess if you want to stir s*** up you can run with that ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted April 1, 2009 Dissing enforcers being needed on this team AND praising/showing confidence in Ozzie (a fellow Red Wing) ? A few people here might learn from our new captain (I still think it'll go over their heads). Or maybe he just doesn't know s*** despite being on this team. Way to go Lids. If that's what he meant (which I'm sure he didn't), then that's pathetic, considering how Downey stood up for him getting leveled last year by Lapperiere. He didnt' say enforcers aren't needed at all, he's just going with the flow of the team. If we had a roster full of enforcers, he'd say that it was needed. Of course he's going to back up what the management and coaching staff do. Is that really so hard for you to figure out? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken 16 381 Report post Posted April 1, 2009 Dissing enforcers being needed on this team AND praising/showing confidence in Ozzie (a fellow Red Wing) ? A few people here might learn from our new captain (I still think it'll go over their heads). Or maybe he just doesn't know s*** despite being on this team. Way to go Lids. Ya... because Lidstrom is going to do an interview on national TV and say exactly what he feels. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xBrave_Heartx 0 Report post Posted April 1, 2009 first there is NCAA hockey on ESPN...then this? maybe ESPN is expanding hockey coverage? If i remember right.. Jim Rome is a hockey fan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted April 1, 2009 If i remember right.. Jim Rome is a hockey fan. Yet he always invites douchebag analysts on his show who know nothing about hockey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xBrave_Heartx 0 Report post Posted April 1, 2009 When ESPN signs your check.. you do what ESPN Tells you to do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted April 1, 2009 Dissing enforcers being needed on this team AND praising/showing confidence in Ozzie (a fellow Red Wing) ? A few people here might learn from our new captain (I still think it'll go over their heads). Or maybe he just doesn't know s*** despite being on this team. Way to go Lids. Haha right. Lidstrom is going to go on National TV and suggest that both his GM and his teammate have dropped the ball in one fell swoop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted April 1, 2009 If that's what he meant (which I'm sure he didn't), then that's pathetic, considering how Downey stood up for him getting leveled last year by Lapperiere. He didnt' say enforcers aren't needed at all, he's just going with the flow of the team. If we had a roster full of enforcers, he'd say that it was needed. Of course he's going to back up what the management and coaching staff do. Is that really so hard for you to figure out? He didn't say anything about a roster full of enforcers, but a roster full of enforcers couldn't win s*** anyways. This team has other ways of winning that doesn't involve enforcers, they just proved it this year. In their shortfalls during the season, they have yet to involve enforcers -- and with only a small handful of games left, I doubt it's going to rear it's ugly head. Lidstrom obviously agrees, and being the leader of this team, he really has no one's ass to kiss. But that was a fantastic bulls*** explanation. The captain said this team doesn't need enforcers. You say they do. You're obviously wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MannyK 16 Report post Posted April 1, 2009 so..... no video then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mickey Redmond 15 Report post Posted April 1, 2009 He didn't say anything about a roster full of enforcers, but a roster full of enforcers couldn't win s*** anyways. This team has other ways of winning that doesn't involve enforcers, they just proved it this year. In their shortfalls during the season, they have yet to involve enforcers -- and with only a small handful of games left, I doubt it's going to rear it's ugly head. Lidstrom obviously agrees, and being the leader of this team, he really has no one's ass to kiss. But that was a fantastic bulls*** explanation. The captain said this team doesn't need enforcers. You say they do. You're obviously wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ben_usmc 253 Report post Posted April 1, 2009 He didn't say anything about a roster full of enforcers, but a roster full of enforcers couldn't win s*** anyways. This team has other ways of winning that doesn't involve enforcers, they just proved it this year. In their shortfalls during the season, they have yet to involve enforcers -- and with only a small handful of games left, I doubt it's going to rear it's ugly head. Lidstrom obviously agrees, and being the leader of this team, he really has no one's ass to kiss. But that was a fantastic bulls*** explanation. The captain said this team doesn't need enforcers. You say they do. You're obviously wrong. I could have sworn Downey played quite a bit last year, didn't make have a few games including a fight in the playoffs. Lets also not forget both Drake fought quite a few times and even Lilja/Kopecky had a few fights last year. So this year we've had Hossa/Downey/Lilja fight.......... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted April 1, 2009 He didn't say anything about a roster full of enforcers, but a roster full of enforcers couldn't win s*** anyways. This team has other ways of winning that doesn't involve enforcers, they just proved it this year. In their shortfalls during the season, they have yet to involve enforcers -- and with only a small handful of games left, I doubt it's going to rear it's ugly head. Lidstrom obviously agrees, and being the leader of this team, he really has no one's ass to kiss. But that was a fantastic bulls*** explanation. The captain said this team doesn't need enforcers. You say they do. You're obviously wrong. Of course Lidstrom is going to kiss ass. When have you ever heard him criticize the coaches or management? You're either ignorant of that fact or in denial. Did Lidstrom last year say that Downey or McCarty weren't needed? I don't seem to remember him saying anything about it. Your interpretation of the importance of this interview is just pitiful. And last I checked, this team has still never won the Cup without enforcers. They haven't proven anything this year, except that they can have a good regular season without toughness, which we already know since they've done it many times before. Why would you even bring that up? Basically, everything that you've said in this topic is wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted April 1, 2009 (edited) I could have sworn Downey played quite a bit last year, didn't make have a few games including a fight in the playoffs. Lets also not forget both Drake fought quite a few times and even Lilja/Kopecky had a few fights last year. So this year we've had Hossa/Downey/Lilja fight.......... Here's a lot of irony. If you go back and read posts of mine for the last 2 years you will see I made the case for an enforcer. However, I'm humble enough to admit I was wrong and go with the team that is winning without one. This season proves that the Red Wings do not need an enforcer when they can win with skill and the chincy extracurricular/cheap s*** doesn't get overlooked by the refs, and our captain's assertions are only icing on the cake. Remembering that despite how good it felt for fans when Downey got back at Lappy, it still didn't un-do Lids' injury. But, that won't mean s*** to those who have this wishful thinking, perfect world idealistic Red Wings (with visions back from the 80s/early 90s) who kick everyone's ass when they mess with a Wing, even though that doesn't help win games. Wish someone (a very obvious someone) would just admit that kicking ass is merely fun to watch, along with good hockey, not a necessary element in this team. The team this season has done perfectly fine without one, and Lids admission is only a reality a few one-dimensional fans still whining about enforcers will have to come to, but I'd love to see how they spin this. Basically, everything that you've said in this topic is wrong. This, itself, is incorrect. Read above. You're one of the biggest whiners here about enforcers, and yet you're not smart enough to feel a slap on the face to your enforcer wet dream. Damn that must suck. Edited April 1, 2009 by Shoreline Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsyerberger 279 Report post Posted April 1, 2009 I could have sworn Downey played quite a bit last year, didn't make have a few games including a fight in the playoffs. Lets also not forget both Drake fought quite a few times and even Lilja/Kopecky had a few fights last year. So this year we've had Hossa/Downey/Lilja fight.......... And yet we're still among the top 3 teams in the league with arguably the toughest division in hockey this year (3 super hot goaltenders, 2 really skilled young teams, 2 really physical teams, all 4 others currently sitting in a playoff position). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted April 1, 2009 (edited) And yet we're still among the top 3 teams in the league with arguably the toughest division in hockey this year (3 super hot goaltenders, 2 really skilled young teams, 2 really physical teams, all 4 others currently sitting in a playoff position). It's a lot like the people who've trashed Osgood all season long. If they don't have their Wings they way they want them, even if they're winning, even if they are at the same point as they were last season, having the same chance to win the cup, they whine. This team has a good handful of spoiled and unappreciative fans, that's for sure. Edited April 1, 2009 by Shoreline Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ManLuv4Clears 7 Report post Posted April 1, 2009 He didn't say anything about a roster full of enforcers, but a roster full of enforcers couldn't win s*** anyways. This team has other ways of winning that doesn't involve enforcers, they just proved it this year. In their shortfalls during the season, they have yet to involve enforcers -- and with only a small handful of games left, I doubt it's going to rear it's ugly head. Lidstrom obviously agrees, and being the leader of this team, he really has no one's ass to kiss. But that was a fantastic bulls*** explanation. The captain said this team doesn't need enforcers. You say they do. You're obviously wrong. I agree with you on a lot of things Shoreline, but I'm going to have to respectively disagree with you on this. This team has NEVER won a cup without the grit/enforcer/role player type in the lineup. Until that happens, GMR in fact, is not wrong. Again, unless you are measuring success on president’s trophies and early round playoff exits. Another note, he was praising Downey last year for sticking up for him and made some sort of statement referencing that there is a place for enforcers in the game, so was he BS'ing then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsyerberger 279 Report post Posted April 1, 2009 It's a lot like the people who've trashed Osgood all season long. If they don't have their Wings they way they want them, even if they're winning, even if they are at the same point as they were last season, having the same chance to win the cup, they whine. This team has a good handful of spoiled and unappreciative fans, that's for sure. The price of success. I can live with it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsyerberger 279 Report post Posted April 1, 2009 I agree with you on a lot of things Shoreline, but I'm going to have to respectively disagree with you on this. This team has NEVER won a cup without the grit/enforcer/role player type in the lineup. Until that happens, GMR in fact, is not wrong. Again, unless you are measuring success on president’s trophies and early round playoff exits. Another note, he was praising Downey last year for sticking up for him and made some sort of statement referencing that there is a place for enforcers in the game, so was he BS'ing then? Well, personally, I measure success by playoff performance and that Stanley Steamer Cup thing, and unless you're counting Mac and his couple of appearances last playoffs... well, we've still got him and/or Downey available if we need him, but given even Mac's very limited game time last playoffs, I don't expect we'll see anything more than that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted April 1, 2009 It's a lot like the people who've trashed Osgood all season long. If they don't have their Wings they way they want them, even if they're winning, even if they are at the same point as they were last season, having the same chance to win the cup, they whine. This team has a good handful of spoiled and unappreciative fans, that's for sure. Here you go again talking about real fans and whiners and crap like that. Just because I want an enforcer on this team and will continue to want one doesn't mean I'm whining. I appreciate the regular season success, but I also realize that soft teams don't translate into playoff success. Somehow that makes me a whiner and you a real fan. Once again, you're engaging in self-aggrandizement, like many posters here unfortunately do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
