Brashear's antics on Sunday (suspension coming)

[Vladifan 680]

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=420354

Seems I was right. He is suspended 5 games for his hit and one game for initiating contact during the pre-game skate for a total of six games.

Oh.

My.

Gawd.

There may be hope for the NHL after all!

.....naw.....

[Electrophile 3,554]

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=420354

Seems I was right. He is suspended 5 games for his hit and one game for initiating contact during the pre-game skate for a total of six games.

Damn. Oh well, you play with fire you WILL get burnt.

[Ms_Hockey 0]

I remember seeing this hit and thinking "You serious right now?"

What a cheapshot. Glad he got suspended, the a-hole.

[egroen 384]

LOL.

I'm not worried about Brash. I keep reading on here that our guys are plenty tough, that I'm wrong, they're really not ******* and they aren't afraid to or incapable of defend(ing) themselves or their teamates. Maybe we'll get to see.

Yeah, I'm sure Brashear would never dare do anything like that with Downey on the ice.

I know you're all lathered up and excited to see the Red Wings beaten like rag dolls and out in the hospital or playing golf to prove your point, but unfortunately, they seem to be doing alright so far.

[miller76 463]

I still believe fighting should remain in the game. But a goon like Brashear gives nothing positive to the argument of keeping it in the game.

Does anyone remember when Brashear went after Bogosian early in the season? Bogosian I think was just a 19 year old kid.

[RedWingAbner 13]

6 Games! BAM! Somewhere Pronger is laughing!

esteef

The NHL seems to be really cracking down this playoff year, IMO. That being said, Chris Pronger would need to try to sever a guy's leg to get a.....oh wait. Well, I'm sure that if Pronger targeted a player who had just scored 2 goals against his team with a face slam into-the-glass elbow, he'd get at least 5.

Oh, he got 1 game? You don't say.

Needless to say-- Chris Pronger is an *******. Lauren Pronger is available for parties.

[Mike 0]

I agree with the suspension. You cannot go head hunting, period.

[Guest micah]

Yeah, I'm sure Brashear would never dare do anything like that with Downey on the ice.

I know you're all lathered up and excited to see the Red Wings beaten like rag dolls and out in the hospital or playing golf to prove your point, but unfortunately, they seem to be doing alright so far.

LOL, I don't want the Wings to lose or get hurt, you silly, illiterate man. I want them to toughen-up and quit playing like girls and refusing to fight.

It is a possibility that the Wings meet Brash in the Finals. If that happens, how would you like the Wings to respond to him (we'll assume he plays the same as he has so far - mean and gritty and skirting on the edge of dirty, getting meaner and meaner until he eventually does something very dirty and hurts someone, at which time the league will step in)? Should they just take the attitude of "eh, let him be, once he injures one of us, the league will punnish him" or would you like to see someone take him off the ice, 5 minutes at a time?

[Dabura 12,232]

I want them to toughen-up and quit playing like girls

[Guest micah]

Intersting removal from context.

.....and refusing to fight

Perthaps I shopuld have been more clear and said "by refusing to fight" instead of the less clear "and refusing to fight".

I can certainly understand why the Wings might have a few superstars whould ought not be fighting with regularity, but I don't get why they all pretty much refuse to throw down.

I hope that Stewie and Helm get to lay into Brashear like that, it would make for a fun series!

Edited April 27, 2009 by micah

[egroen 384]

LOL, I don't want the Wings to lose or get hurt, you silly, illiterate man. I want them to toughen-up and quit playing like girls and refusing to fight.

It is a possibility that the Wings meet Brash in the Finals. If that happens, how would you like the Wings to respond to him (we'll assume he plays the same as he has so far - mean and gritty and skirting on the edge of dirty, getting meaner and meaner until he eventually does something very dirty and hurts someone, at which time the league will step in)? Should they just take the attitude of "eh, let him be, once he injures one of us, the league will punnish him" or would you like to see someone take him off the ice, 5 minutes at a time?

Oh, you're actually rooting for the Red Wings?

I keep thing you are a Ducks fan trolling the boards.

Anyways... now you tell me. Having watched Brashear, you tell me what the Wings should do. Should they play Downey, who is not even half the hockey player Brashear is, just in case something happens... and then, suppose the Wings are lucky enough to have an incident occur during the whole 4:00 Downey is on the ice, Downey will proceed to get his ass kicked by Brashear or bear-hugged until the refs break it up. I don't know about you, but that will really pump me up as our player is being carted off the ice in a stretcher.

In reality, should Washington ever meet up with the Wings, Brashear will not be playing. If they are stupid enough to ice Brashear, like the Penguins iced BGL the first two games of the SCFs last year (how did that go for them?), I care more about the Wings scoring on the power play and winning, than I do someone playing huggy-bear with Brashear. These are the playoffs, after all.

[Dabura 12,232]

The context wasn't necessary. The connection you're making between fighting and toughness is flawed; a team doesn't need the former in order to have the latter. If you really think this team's lack of fights translates to them "playing like girls," there's something seriously wrong with the way you think.

[Dabura 12,232]

BUT DABURA WHO'S GOING TO PROTECT OUR STARS

BUT DABURA THIS TEAM IS SO BORING WITHOUT FIGHTERS

WAH WAH WAH CRY CRY CRY

[cusimano_brothers 1,655]

It seems like a proper call by the League. But, he'll have to serve the remaining five games of his suspension to start next season. That's right; I'm calling the Rangers in Game Seven. I saw this in a dream. Problem is that Ed Giacomin was playing in goal. I need more sleep. I mean, more quality sleep.

[Vladifan 680]

Oh, you're actually rooting for the Red Wings?

I keep thing you are a Ducks fan trolling the boards.

Anyways... now you tell me. Having watched Brashear, you tell me what the Wings should do. Should they play Downey, who is not even half the hockey player Brashear is, just in case something happens... and then, suppose the Wings are lucky enough to have an incident occur during the whole 4:00 Downey is on the ice, Downey will proceed to get his ass kicked by Brashear or bear-hugged until the refs break it up. I don't know about you, but that will really pump me up as our player is being carted off the ice in a stretcher.

In reality, should Washington ever meet up with the Wings, Brashear will not be playing. If they are stupid enough to ice Brashear, like the Penguins iced BGL the first two games of the SCFs last year (how did that go for them?), I care more about the Wings scoring on the power play and winning, than I do someone playing huggy-bear with Brashear. These are the playoffs, after all.

Mebee what some of us should do instead of trying to answer this idiocy over and over is to just quote this line throughout the rest of the playoffs.

One more time. So Downey comes in (as if Babcock is insane enough to do that...). Whose place does he take? On what line? How does that continue our storied depth chart, which is a huge advantage for us? And when Downey is either taken off the ice on a stretcher or sits on the bench anywhere from 2 to 5 to out of the arena, who takes his place? What the hell are you thinking? HOW do we continue to win games with that kind of scenario? Even if Downey- who really can't skate or shoot - wins against whoever, HE'S REMOVED FROM THE ICE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. The logic remains - Babcock wants to play four lines and he doesn't want to have to over-use the energy of players whose contribution to the team is on ALL levels.

I cannot believe this discussion - especially in the playoffs - keeps coming up. It goes nowhere and is nothing but self-defeating for the team.

Edited April 27, 2009 by Vladifan

[Vladifan 680]

The context wasn't necessary. The connection you're making between fighting and toughness is flawed; a team doesn't need the former in order to have the latter. If you really think this team's lack of fights translates to them "playing like girls," there's something seriously wrong with the way you think.

May go down as the Understatement of the Day. :deal:

[Dabura 12,232]

Mebee what some of us should do instead of trying to answer this idiocy over and over is to just quote this line throughout the rest of the playoffs.

One more time. So Downey comes in (as if Babcock is insane enough to do that...). Whose place does he take? On what line? How does that continue our storied depth chart, which is a huge advantage for us? And when Downey is either taken off the ice on a stretcher or sits on the bench anywhere from 2 to 5 to out of the arena, who takes his place? What the hell are you thinking? HOW do we continue to win games with that kind of scenario? Even if Downey- who really can't skate or shoot - wins against whoever, HE'S REMOVED FROM THE ICE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. The logic remains - Babcock wants to play four lines and he doesn't want to have to over-use the energy of players whose contribution to the team is on ALL levels.

I cannot believe this discussion - especially in the playoffs - keeps coming up. It goes nowhere and is nothing but self-defeating for the team.

BUT AT LEAST FOUR PEOPLE WILL BE ENTERTAINED

[Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204]

Someone on the Rangers should have taken their stick and hit Brashear on the head with it. Why is it that no one ever thought of doing this before?

There it is.

Brash is a moron, should've just booted him from the league, he'll be 37 next season, no one wants a past his prime enforcer who's suspended.

[Vladifan 680]

BUT AT LEAST FOUR PEOPLE WILL BE ENTERTAINED

Butofcourse. Silly me. I never looked at it that way.

[Guest micah]

Oh, you're actually rooting for the Red Wings?

I keep thing you are a Ducks fan trolling the boards.

Anyways... now you tell me. Having watched Brashear, you tell me what the Wings should do. Should they play Downey, who is not even half the hockey player Brashear is, just in case something happens... and then, suppose the Wings are lucky enough to have an incident occur during the whole 4:00 Downey is on the ice, Downey will proceed to get his ass kicked by Brashear or bear-hugged until the refs break it up. I don't know about you, but that will really pump me up as our player is being carted off the ice in a stretcher.

Why do you never answer questions? I asked you what you would like the Wings to dio in the situation I presented. Why do you refuse to answer?

Also, Downey didn't get carried of the ice on a stretcher last time he fought Brashear, why would he this time?

Anyway - I haven't said that I think the Wings should ice Downey in the playoffs.

I think that what needs to happen should a guy like Brash start getting chippy with this team, is that some sacrificial lamb goes out there and takes him off the icem, 5 minutes at a time. Maltby ain't gonna play next year anyway, he could man-up for the 1st time in his carreer. Franzen is a biggish guy - he oughta be able to handle himself. Shanahan picked a fight with Brash last year, he ain't much bigger than Franzen - and Franzen is younger, in his prime....right? LOL

I care more about the Wings scoring on the power play and winning

LOL - What powerplay? There wasn't a penalty on that hit. Just a player with a broken jaw. I hope if it happens to the Wings too, it's to a 4th liner like it was for New York...

[Guest micah]

BUT AT LEAST FOUR PEOPLE WILL BE ENTERTAINED

What's your preference? What response would you like to see to a hit like that from Brash on one of our players? Be quiet and try their best to score on the powerplay that doesn't come from it?

[Ms_Hockey 0]

Let's be realistic here. If Brash did something like that to one of our players, we'd all want somebody on the team to go out there and deck him one.

Do you really think leaving our team in a position to have Hossa be our fighter again is the best idea? I certainly don't.

[Mors 201]

Oh, you're actually rooting for the Red Wings?

I keep thing you are a Ducks fan trolling the boards.

Anyways... now you tell me. Having watched Brashear, you tell me what the Wings should do. Should they play Downey, who is not even half the hockey player Brashear is, just in case something happens... and then, suppose the Wings are lucky enough to have an incident occur during the whole 4:00 Downey is on the ice, Downey will proceed to get his ass kicked by Brashear or bear-hugged until the refs break it up. I don't know about you, but that will really pump me up as our player is being carted off the ice in a stretcher.

In reality, should Washington ever meet up with the Wings, Brashear will not be playing. If they are stupid enough to ice Brashear, like the Penguins iced BGL the first two games of the SCFs last year (how did that go for them?), I care more about the Wings scoring on the power play and winning, than I do someone playing huggy-bear with Brashear. These are the playoffs, after all.

Downey isn't half the hockey player Brashear is? Come on now, you're giving old Donald a lot of credit here. He put up...wait for it...4 Points this season! I think Downey could manage that and still be just as useful of an "enforcer" as Brashear, minus the nonsensical goonery.

Either way, Brashear got the suspension he deserved.

[Vladifan 680]

What's your preference? What response would you like to see to a hit like that from Brash on one of our players? Be quiet and try their best to score on the powerplay that doesn't come from it?

No, what's your response? Say Brashear's on the third line. So you put Downey in the game for who? Who do you leave out for that whole game in the playoffs? AND when Downey leaves the ice (and he will if he does what you want him to do), what happens? What's your solution to the energy drain and the shifts in lines and the inbalance that will no doubt take place? Really, the point here is do you give a s***?

I think you're way too used to watching tv where most things are resolved in no more than 60 minutes. Or maybe fight movies where the villain is taken out precisely when you and most of the audience think he should be. Does not always happen on the ice that way. If you're wise and patient and STRONG in your own regard as a team, you know the best thing you can do for the honor of your team is to keep playing your game the way you know how (and the Wings have that down pat no matter what you think), and let justice take its course.

The game is not about you getting your way when you think a punk should be taken out. It's about winning.

[esteef 2,679]

So if " This is the playoffs! ", why are all these fighters and goons even playing? I thought the playoffs were all skill and players such as Brashear, Parros, Orr, Roy, don't get any ice time, let alone have any impact on the game with their ridiculous savagery. I mean why would Letang even go after Carcillo? It doesn't accomplish anything in the game right?

esteef

Edited April 27, 2009 by esteef