SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted May 1, 2009 Mindless pessimism? Chelios is far from the worst fill-in player the majority of teams would have at their disposal. ^ This. In today's times I'll take Rafalski over Chelios any day of the week, but from some posts in here, some of you seriously need to get a grip. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mindfly Report post Posted May 1, 2009 (edited) You have no clue what Rafalski is dealing with. Stop making assumptions you can't back up with facts. If you read between the lines you know its some kind of groin problem... holmstrom had a sports hernia injury but played anyway, worked pretty well eh dont you think Edited May 1, 2009 by mindfly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted May 1, 2009 (edited) If you read between the lines you know its some kind of groin problem... holmstrom had a sports hernia injury but played anyway, worked pretty well eh dont you think And we still don't know the extent of the injury. If Rafalski could play, he would. If Draper could play, he would. They aren't cleared to play though and it isn't up to them. Even beloved Steve Yzerman had to sit out playoff games due to injury. Sometimes you just can't play. Edited May 1, 2009 by SouthernWingsFan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vladifan 680 Report post Posted May 1, 2009 that was 2007 though, and this past year i have decided he is the worst player in the league. at least you have to admit he has the worst shot. even if you think the guy still has some worth, admit that there is no one with a worse shot. He's never been out there for his shot. Not as long as I've seen him play and that's since he came to Detroit. Yeah, he's slower but he is still tough as nails and will not take crap from anyone. He could very well end up being a target/decoy, but knowing the way the Ducks go for overkill, that's not all bad. I gotta say I got a kick out of your statement, "I have decided...". Sorry, but that means what to Babcock or for that matter, Rafalski or the Red Wings? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vladifan 680 Report post Posted May 1, 2009 That means Big E is movin UP!! Wow.. getting to play with Nicky!! WHOOHOOO! Look out... I'm not happy about Cheli playing... at least not yet. You never know he may have been resting all this time just so he could get geared up to make a long run. Lebda needs Cheli's guidance out there sometimes.... ok hell most of the time. Crissyyyy meet Big E!!!! LOL The fact that Ericsson is moving up had not dawned on me, even after reading the line-up, so thanks! I also agree that is positive news. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_redwing 495 Report post Posted May 1, 2009 Maybe Babs felt bad about sweeping the Jackets so easily so wanted to give the Ducks a bit more of a chance...here have some defensive turnovers... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vladifan 680 Report post Posted May 1, 2009 Me too, he is a ton faster then cheli and hits more. Meech may have the speed but at this point in his career, that's about all he has. He doesn't have the experience, timing and sense of positioning that Cheli has. Kids, kids, kids....we have to be ok with this. And I for one, am. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edicius 3,269 Report post Posted May 1, 2009 Are the Ducks healthy? Bobby Ryan was rumored to be playing hurt toward the end of the first round. That's about all I know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vladifan 680 Report post Posted May 1, 2009 Mindless optimism. It's a helluva lot better than total Eyore-type bulls***. Or the Chicken Little syndrome. Or, "OHMYEEGAWD, NOW MY TEAM'S GOING NOWHERE!!!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike 0 Report post Posted May 1, 2009 The Wings ran these 3 defensive pairings in the regular season and they worked rather well. The playoffs are all about overcoming obstacles. If the Wings can't over come this than they were not going to win anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vladifan 680 Report post Posted May 1, 2009 (edited) /popcorn Like I said before, this game will make you sick to your stomachs. Our slow-motion puck cycling with Chelios out there. LMAO! You know what I'm hoping? I thought you'd never ask. I'm hoping that idiotic elbowing-piece-of-s*** Pronger comes at Cheli just like he did Yzerman. I'm thinking Cheli still has the timing to know when to bend over. Please, hockey gods - make it happen. Edited May 1, 2009 by Vladifan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted May 1, 2009 If you read between the lines you know its some kind of groin problem... holmstrom had a sports hernia injury but played anyway, worked pretty well eh dont you think Please show me these "magical" lines you're reading through. You have no clue what his injury is or the extent of it. So before you go and call out a players' toughness, you might want to bite your tongue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LionsAndRedwingsAndPistonsOhMy 3 Report post Posted May 1, 2009 By the way some of you are acting, we may as well hand the Cup to the Ducks. WTF is wrong with some of you? What happened to the faith in the depth of our roster? Get a grip, you aren't Toronto fans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viperar 16 Report post Posted May 1, 2009 This is bad news, but its not as apocalyptic as some members are making it seem. Chelios is a much better fill-in than most other teams have. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egroen 384 Report post Posted May 1, 2009 (edited) /popcorn Like I said before, this game will make you sick to your stomachs. Our slow-motion puck cycling with Chelios out there. LMAO! You crack me up. You do realize these teams have played before, right? Did california start handing out free Pronger T-shirts or something in all the middle schools? Edited May 1, 2009 by egroen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zion 93 Report post Posted May 1, 2009 im glad you agree that i am an expert. seriously though, the guy can no longer skate, his passing isnt as good as meech, he has a godawful shot that makes me cringe everytime i see him wind up and the guy is senile. the guy gets exposed over and over defensively and he takes stupid penalties. give us meech! Meech was actually worse than Lebda this season. Didn't think that was possible, but you must be off of your rocker to want to put him in against the Ducks than Chelios. If this were a faster team like the Jackets or Oilers, maybe... but against this team? You're out of your mind. He'd get punked worse than Kopecky will be this series. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zion 93 Report post Posted May 1, 2009 Oh, and sport your Puck Fronger t-shirts proudly tonight, people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12Newf 0 Report post Posted May 1, 2009 If you read between the lines you know its some kind of groin problem... holmstrom had a sports hernia injury but played anyway, worked pretty well eh dont you think ohhhhhhh! these lines Update from Friday's morning skate: Wings defenseman Brian Rafalski won't play in Game 1 vs. Anaheim tonight due to an upper-body injury, coach Mike Babcock said. its all very clear now. http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/20...lski_to_mi.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12Newf 0 Report post Posted May 1, 2009 Meech was actually worse than Lebda this season. Didn't think that was possible, but you must be off of your rocker to want to put him in against the Ducks than Chelios. If this were a faster team like the Jackets or Oilers, maybe... but against this team? You're out of your mind. He'd get punked worse than Kopecky will be this series. okay so maybe youre right about meech, and maybe im acting a little insane right now thinking that maybe the aocalypse is upon us all. ill give you that. BUT chelios is not an upgrade over rafalski in any way shape or form. rafalski is underrated by a lot of people on this board for his defensive capabilities too. however, it will be nice to watch cheli crush some skulls during the inevitable post whistle scrums. on another note, check out this blog about post whistle scrums and tell me you dont think about sammy instantly. http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/2576...le-Phonies.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mindfly Report post Posted May 1, 2009 Please show me these "magical" lines you're reading through. You have no clue what his injury is or the extent of it. So before you go and call out a players' toughness, you might want to bite your tongue. If he rested 2-3 practices because of a sore groin don't you think it's a high possibility that the groin hasn't gotten better and is the reason why he doesn't play, it was in freep a few days ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CenterIce 83 Report post Posted May 1, 2009 We don't know the extent of the injury, but they could say an upper body problem, and his groin is the issue. They never want to give any kind of advantage to the opposition, which they shouldn't. The assumption on the groin injury is that Rafalski was missing practice and some games trough the end of the regular season, and he missed their last practiced. So, the assumption was that it flared up, again. Who knows. Just need a win! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozen-Man 144 Report post Posted May 1, 2009 (edited) Please show me these "magical" lines you're reading through. You have no clue what his injury is or the extent of it. So before you go and call out a players' toughness, you might want to bite your tongue. Oh come on NFM you know what lines he is talking about. The report is that it is an upper-body injury so the only possible upper-body injury that it could be is the groin. Edit: Yeah I know they could be lying about where the injury is but it is still funny. Edited May 1, 2009 by Frozen-Man Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted May 1, 2009 If he rested 2-3 practices because of a sore groin don't you think it's a high possibility that the groin hasn't gotten better and is the reason why he doesn't play, it was in freep a few days ago. So because you feel you've been able to narrow it down to a groin injury (which the reports are saying its not), you think that also gives you the credibility and the knowledge to criticize Rafalski's toughness when you have zero clue what the extent of his injury is? None of us has a clue as to the extent of his injury and until then, calling out a guys toughness that's probably 10X tougher than any of us is pathetic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mindfly Report post Posted May 1, 2009 Oh come on NFM you know what lines he is talking about. The report is that it is an upper-body injury so the only possible upper-body injury that it could be is the groin. They can say whatever they want to the reporters, sometimes they say undisclosed but to get rid of questions they just say upper or lower and if they say upper it might as well be lower just to fool media (read:opponents), they are not obligated to reveal anything since last year, the GM's stated this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted May 1, 2009 They can say whatever they want to the reporters, sometimes they say undisclosed but to get rid of questions they just say upper or lower and if they say upper it might as well be lower just to fool media (read:opponents), they are not obligated to reveal anything since last year, the GM's stated this. Of course they're not obligated to reveal anything. That still doesn't give you the credibility or knowledge to call out his toughness. Again, none of us has a clue as to the extent of his injury. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
