Did Everybody Notice

[MidMichSteve 1,115]

Jake needs to learn that statistics only tell part of the story. I've been watching Homer since he got to our team and there's an intangible respect that he brings to our team. The nature of his presence in front of opposing goalies is two fold in the sense that he's both effective at deflections and being an all around pest. In my mind, the man enjoys the punishment and there is no statistic that measures that degree of toughness. Homer is THE MAN in my book, no matter how many goals he scores or not.

Without Lidstrom in the playoffs this season we've outscored our opponents at a 6-1 ratio.

Edited May 25, 2009 by MidMichSteve

[SouthernWingsFan 854]

Ninety-SUX is lucky he plays on the Red Wings. He'd get cut on other teams.

You are a sad person.

[Mickeyisms Rule! 0]

Jake is actually a stealthed Penguins fan. The proof is right there, cause he doesn't know anything about hockey!

BTW Homer made a sweet diving play to stop a shot on goal in yesterday's game.

Go back to Hannah Montana re-runs you little turd.

[Hockeymom1960 5,107]

I don't know why the deouche bag (Jakey Wakey) posts on these boards. He must be only 10. Here's a pacifier for all your complaining and whining. You really need to go back and start playing with your barbies again.

[BuckeyeWingsfan80 209]

And why is that again? Because he had zero points again? 0 in 11 now. ON THE ***** DETROIT RED WINGS!!! That's almost impossible to do. Do you realize that?

No numbnuts. Homer plays his role as Zetterberg and Lidstrom and all of the rest of them play their role.

So he didn't score - Cristobal Huet is asking for seconds of how his ass tastes.

Let me guess, you are probably also pissed that Jiri Hudler didn't fight Chris Versteeg since well, your logic is so twisted in this stupid rant about homer I can't come up with a comparable rant about Hudler.

[BuckeyeWingsfan80 209]

Without Lidstrom in the playoffs this season we've outscored our opponents at a 6-1 ratio.

[jake]TRADE HIS ASS NOW!!!!!![/jack]

[Zion 93]

Teams would love to overpay Homer to stand in front. We're lucky to have him. Franzen is learning a lot from him, as well...

... and so the cycle begins.

[NomadFromKazoo 42]

Ninety-SUX is lucky he plays on the Red Wings. He'd get cut on other teams.

[Rocket Queen 30 1]

Ninety-SUX is lucky he plays on the Red Wings. He'd get cut on other teams.

i think this person has a relaxed brain...

[Jake Ryan 1]

Teams would love to overpay Homer to stand in front. We're lucky to have him. Franzen is learning a lot from him, as well...

... and so the cycle begins.

THIS is the funniest thing I've ever heard, and a true sign of the HOLMSTROM HARD-ON.

Holmstrom - 38 goals and 40 assists in 144 games.

Franzen - 27 goals and 20 assists in 55 games.

Do you honestly think Johan Franzen is "learning" from Tomas Holmstrom? If you do, you have a screw loose. The Mule is all things playoff hockey. The team won't even let Ninety-SUX wash Franzen's jock strap.

What other learning do you think is happening on the Wings? Do you think Zetterberg is learning from Hudler? Or Lidstrom from Lebda? The HHO is like the dark side of the force. It clouds your vision.

[cupcrazy 13]

Without Holmer in front of the net,we wouldn't score like we do.

[RockyMountainWingGal 108]

Can we please vote these people OFF the bandwagon who have to pick someone who "Sux" - esp a guy who has helped us win four Cups. No he's not a spring chicken anymore, and he hasn't played as big of a role this POs, but he plays his part and he's a team guy. Really, how old is this OP, ten?

[titanium2 867]

Guess who, according to Franzen, deserves more credit for the way the Filppula-Hossa combo played?

"Homer is creating a lot of room for those two, always driving the middle and driving the net," Franzen said. "They seem to fit each other well."

- http://www.freep.com/article/20090526/SPOR...0428/1053/rss17

That's right... "Ninety-Sux"

[SouthernWingsFan 854]

THIS is the funniest thing I've ever heard, and a true sign of the HOLMSTROM HARD-ON.

Holmstrom - 38 goals and 40 assists in 144 games.

Franzen - 27 goals and 20 assists in 55 games.

Do you honestly think Johan Franzen is "learning" from Tomas Holmstrom? If you do, you have a screw loose. The Mule is all things playoff hockey. The team won't even let Ninety-SUX wash Franzen's jock strap.

What other learning do you think is happening on the Wings? Do you think Zetterberg is learning from Hudler? Or Lidstrom from Lebda? The HHO is like the dark side of the force. It clouds your vision.

You are a sad person.

What is with you not liking Holmstrom? Did he do something to you in the past life like pull your pants down in 4th grade homeroom or something? Seriously...

You are the only person with this strong distaste of him, nobody agrees with you 100% on your extreme thoughts and distates of him, and yet you still seem to get the urge to come on here and get slaughtered. Doesn't seem like a good use of time to me.

[Zion 93]

Wow, you're dumber than I thought. I'll end there.

[Jocke 53]

THIS is the funniest thing I've ever heard, and a true sign of the HOLMSTROM HARD-ON.

Holmstrom - 38 goals and 40 assists in 144 games.

Franzen - 27 goals and 20 assists in 55 games.

Do you honestly think Johan Franzen is "learning" from Tomas Holmstrom? If you do, you have a screw loose. The Mule is all things playoff hockey. The team won't even let Ninety-SUX wash Franzen's jock strap.

What other learning do you think is happening on the Wings? Do you think Zetterberg is learning from Hudler? Or Lidstrom from Lebda? The HHO is like the dark side of the force. It clouds your vision.

Yes, Franzen is learning from him. If you watch the games you will see Franzen occationally standing in front of the crease just like Homer.

Holmstrom isn't here to put up points. His job is to make sure the goalie doesn't see the puck too often which is something they don't put up on the score sheet.

[Rebound 22]

And why is that again? Because he had zero points again? 0 in 11 now. ON THE ***** DETROIT RED WINGS!!! That's almost impossible to do. Do you realize that?

I guess we should have dumped Hossa too, eh?

He didn't have any points for a while there...

[Rocket Queen 30 1]

Wow, you're dumber than I thought. I'll end there.

Hip Hip! Seriously.

[titanium2 867]

Yes, Franzen is learning from him. If you watch the games you will see Franzen occationally standing in front of the crease just like Homer.

Holmstrom isn't here to put up points. His job is to make sure the goalie doesn't see the puck too often which is something they don't put up on the score sheet.

I've mostly seen Franzen be a net-front presence on the power play but not 5-on-5. He's good enough so that he can be the main shooter on whatever line he's on.

For guys like Holmstrom and somewhat Cleary (although he has a pretty hard and accurate shot as well), they're immediate instinct is to stay at the net and let everyone else handle the puck.

[Jake Ryan 1]

Holmstrom has one year left with the Wings. Get used to it. He's already past his prime, and his usefulness to the team is in serious question now. I'd be surprised if the coach lets him see much of the ice against Pittsburgh. He has his role on the PP, but other than that, he's pretty much worthless. I understand why people like "Homer" though and continue to root for him. He's a likeable player. But Babcock shouldn't let his HHO get in the way of the team's success. Get "Homer" on the ice for his 3-4 minutes of PP time per game, and keep him off the ice 5 on 5.

At 1:21 you can see Ninety-SUX's skates 10 feet behind where they should be. I'm surprised he crossed the blue line, to tell you the truth, but regardless, he didn't pick up his responsibility and cost us game 3.

I think we can win the cup with Ninety-SUX playing 5 on 5, but I think we can win it easier if he doesn't. Thoughts?

[Zeowingsfan 16]

Holmstrom has one year left with the Wings. Get used to it. He's already past his prime, and his usefulness to the team is in serious question now. I'd be surprised if the coach lets him see much of the ice against Pittsburgh. He has his role on the PP, but other than that, he's pretty much worthless. I understand why people like "Homer" though and continue to root for him. He's a likeable player. But Babcock shouldn't let his HHO get in the way of the team's success. Get "Homer" on the ice for his 3-4 minutes of PP time per game, and keep him off the ice 5 on 5.

At 1:21 you can see Ninety-SUX's skates 10 feet behind where they should be. I'm surprised he crossed the blue line, to tell you the truth, but regardless, he didn't pick up his responsibility and cost us game 3.

I think we can win the cup with Ninety-SUX playing 5 on 5, but I think we can win it easier if he doesn't. Thoughts?

Well you like Homer because it's not his job to score goals, his job is to stand infront of the crease and screen the goalie. If he doesn't play 5 on 5 we can still win the cup, but it would be easier with him playing. His usefulness is in serious question, where the hell did you come up with that, if it wasn't for him infront of the net how successful would our PP be, the answer would be not as successful. Babcock will let Homer see as much ice time as he sees fit. You sound like one of those annoying Osgood haters from the season saying that he should play much. You notice that your the only one blaming Homer for that game, when in reality the Wings didn't play a full game of hockey, which says a lot about our team if we can go down 3-0 and still force OT. BTW calling Homer Ninety-SUX is just stupid, he has played well in the playoffs, and like I said his role isn't about picking up points, but getting in front of the net, the hardest place to play on the ice.

[LionsAndRedwingsAndPistonsOhMy 3]

I think we can win the cup with Ninety-SUX playing 5 on 5, but I think we can win it easier if he doesn't. Thoughts?

I THINK you are an idiot. But I'm sure I'm in the minority and most people here will recognize your brilliance and lobby to get you a job in the personnel department.

[WingsCaptain 0]

I had to read this thread because I thought it had to be a joke.

If I had a dollar for every time I read an article where an opposing team's coach (usually after a loss) said they wished they had someone like Holmstrom who can screen a goalie as well as he does, or how Holmstrom is the best in the league at screening goalies, or how he takes a beating but doesn't retaliate and gets the tip-in, then I'd be asking Mr. Ilitch for a stake in the team. Because um, yeah, I'd be friggin' rich.

~ Z

Edited May 26, 2009 by WingsCaptain

[SouthernWingsFan 854]

Holmstrom has one year left with the Wings. Get used to it. He's already past his prime, and his usefulness to the team is in serious question now. I'd be surprised if the coach lets him see much of the ice against Pittsburgh. He has his role on the PP, but other than that, he's pretty much worthless. I understand why people like "Homer" though and continue to root for him. He's a likeable player. But Babcock shouldn't let his HHO get in the way of the team's success. Get "Homer" on the ice for his 3-4 minutes of PP time per game, and keep him off the ice 5 on 5.

At 1:21 you can see Ninety-SUX's skates 10 feet behind where they should be. I'm surprised he crossed the blue line, to tell you the truth, but regardless, he didn't pick up his responsibility and cost us game 3.

I think we can win the cup with Ninety-SUX playing 5 on 5, but I think we can win it easier if he doesn't. Thoughts?

If you weren't such a fricken moron with the extremism and going beyond being anal picking out things wrong of a player that pretty much every does at some point in a game, you'd probably see that plenty agree with you to an extent.

Everybody gets that he's probably a step slower. Everybody gets that he is getting closer to retirement years. Everybody gets from day 1 that he hasn't been a super skate out there, even when he was the Holmstrom of old (or young). He's probably my favorite player but I get that he has limitations. Babcock realizes this as well not playing him all the time with his usual linemates. His most important role, PP screening and net presence and crease crashing - he is still one of the best at it and it is a damned important role. To do that, he has to have playing time both on the power play and at even strength.

You lose everybody when you act like an idiot going off the deep end with this all or nothing mentality that he is completely useless out there and yelling at people who view the situation LOGICALLY - understanding his importance while recoginzing his limitations, which is pretty much everybody in here except for you. He isn't utterly useless. If he were utterly useless he wouldn't be playing right now. Get it through your head full of bricks. Nobody has even come close to agreeing with you, and you are doing an awful job of convincing people to your side so far.

I'm certainly glad you aren't the coach.

[Jake Ryan 1]

If you weren't such a fricken moron with the extremism and going beyond being anal picking out things wrong of a player that pretty much every does at some point in a game, you'd probably see that plenty agree with you to an extent.

Everybody gets that he's probably a step slower. Everybody gets that he is getting closer to retirement years. Everybody gets from day 1 that he hasn't been a super skate out there, even when he was the Holmstrom of old (or young). He's probably my favorite player but I get that he has limitations. Babcock realizes this as well not playing him all the time with his usual linemates. His most important role, PP screening and net presence and crease crashing - he is still one of the best at it and it is a damned important role. To do that, he has to have playing time both on the power play and at even strength.

You lose everybody when you act like an idiot going off the deep end with this all or nothing mentality that he is completely useless out there and yelling at people who view the situation LOGICALLY - understanding his importance while recoginzing his limitations, which is pretty much everybody in here except for you. He isn't utterly useless. If he were utterly useless he wouldn't be playing right now. Get it through your head full of bricks. Nobody has even come close to agreeing with you, and you are doing an awful job of convincing people to your side so far.

I'm certainly glad you aren't the coach.

At no point have I yelled. And at no point have I called any of the members on here names for their opinions on the matter. You are saying the same thing I am, by the way: Ninety-SUX has a purpose on the power play, but his role 5 on 5 should be next to nothing. It's really funny.