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Hossa to be re-signed after postseason

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I think the decision to re-sign Hossa is a decision to be made one day after the Stanley Cup final, and not a day sooner. Let the series (and his play) ebb and flow and make that decision much easier.

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He almost led your Penguins to a cup last year, and you can't tell me he took the easy route in last years playoffs. ;)

No, he sure didn't -- last year he contributed. He worked hard and fought all the way.

That's what's got to burn you as a Wings fan. He's been a slug along for the ride.

But that's what happens when you choose the easy road to the Cup.

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No, he sure didn't -- last year he contributed. He worked hard and fought all the way.

That's what's got to burn you as a Wings fan. He's been a slug along for the ride.

But that's what happens when you choose the easy road to the Cup.

Kinda like Crosby is for your team, huh. :)

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No, he sure didn't -- last year he contributed. He worked hard and fought all the way.

That's what's got to burn you as a Wings fan. He's been a slug along for the ride.

But that's what happens when you choose the easy road to the Cup.

Playing on Cindy's team is an easy road to the Cup: Bettman loves him and he's in the Eastern Conference.

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Playing on Cindy's team is an easy road to the Cup: Bettman loves him and he's in the Eastern Conference.

You know, interesting you should mention that -- lots of Pens fans said Hossa couldn't shine unless he played with a world-class center like Sid.

So far those Pens look pretty smart.

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You know, interesting you should mention that -- lots of Pens fans said Hossa couldn't shine unless he played with a world-class center like Sid.

So far those Pens look pretty smart.

World class center? funny...

Sure, they are very smart at putting a 2nd best team together consistently.

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You know, interesting you should mention that -- lots of Pens fans said Hossa couldn't shine unless he played with a world-class center like Sid.

So far those Pens look pretty smart.

How many points does crosby have this series?

Like I said... your a joker, a pole smoker.

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You know, interesting you should mention that -- lots of Pens fans said Hossa couldn't shine unless he played with a world-class center like Sid.

So far those Pens look pretty smart.

dats and z are world class centre's bud. they even backcheck and spring hossa back the other way with the puck. crosby's a hell of a player, but not a complete player yet.

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You know, interesting you should mention that -- lots of Pens fans said Hossa couldn't shine unless he played with a world-class center like Sid.

So far those Pens look pretty smart.

Your "world-class center" has been a no-show for the SCF. How does it feel that an AHL rookie that only played a handful of games is out producing your "world-class center"? I bet it doesn't feel to good.

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You know, interesting you should mention that -- lots of Pens fans said Hossa couldn't shine unless he played with a world-class center like Sid.

So far those Pens look pretty smart.

Do you consider Bobby Holik or Eric Belanger a world class center? Those Pens fans aren't looking very smart to me considering he put up 92 and 100 points in his only full seasons as a Thrasher.

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All great players draw attention from defenders.

That's not excuse for his play. In fact, there are no excuses for his play in the playoffs this year.

Not trying to pick on you here, but he has outplayed Dats when both were in before Dats got hurt.

He was also top goal scorer during reg season and does play against the other teams top lines, not like Z has scored alot more either.

I think we just have to trust in what Holland comes up with, we do not know if Huds is considering going for a larger chunk, or Sammy or what the other players are thinking.

Lets win this Cup and see what Holland comes up with, he has given us a team worthy of Kings for 10+ years, I think we can place a little faith in him.

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I expected a little more from Hossa in the POs. When you see our top guys like Hank out there stepping it up a notch to make up for Datsyuk's absence, you kind of expect he should too since he's a top paid forward. I'm just not seeing it though.

I think he has been good, but better that Flip, Franzen, Cleary, or Helm, guys that all make half or much much less than him? I don't think so.

Hossa was a rental this year and I hope he gets his Cup, but I'm not seeing a long term contract for alot of money benefiting the Wings. If the rumor were true for 7 yrs (which i doubt) Wings fans will all be bitching in 2 or 3 years about his cap hit.....

I'll root for him as long as he is a Wing and fully expect him to notch his two series goals in Game 4. :)

Holland is ten steps ahead of all of us internet junkies - signing Franzen before the POs looks like a genius move right now.

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I think it is silly for anyone to not want to sign this guy based only on his Playoff performance thus far. We know what he is capable of, just look at last years playoffs or even this years regular season numbers. If we have a chance to make this guy a wing for the duration of his career i think we should take it.

That is if we can avoid sacrificing too much of our depth. If anyone can do this its Holland. Personally the only players i wouldn't want to lose out of flip/sammy/huds is flip. I love the other guys too but i think they can be replaced.

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Hossa was a rental this year and I hope he gets his Cup, but I'm not seeing a long term contract for alot of money benefiting the Wings. If the rumor were true for 7 yrs (which i doubt) Wings fans will all be bitching in 2 or 3 years about his cap hit.....

New Lang?

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The Wings depth will not be the same if they sign Hossa. The Wings WILL have to trade Filppula, not sign Hudler or Sammy and resign Leino for the SAME amount and resign Kopecky for the same amount. Hossa's cap number will have to be $5.4 mil if the cap remains the same. If the cap goes up a little then Hossa's cap number can go up or Leino may want more. To get a cap as low as 5.4 mil then you are talking about a 11-12 year contract. If the cap goes down then you are talking about trading away another player. I just don't think the Wings are ready to trade away Filppula. Between NTC's and contracts signed over the age of 35 the Wings do not have that much flexibility.

The total for the example below is about 56.7 million..... the same as this year.

12 Forwards, 7 defencemen and 2 goalies:

Hossa, Marian $5,400,000

Datsyuk, Pavel $6,700,000

Darren Helm $599,444

Cleary, Dan $2,800,000

Zetterberg, Henrik $6,080,000

Holmstrom, Tomas $2,250,000

Draper, Kris $1,583,333

Abdelkader $740,000

Leino, V RFA -have to resign $875,000

Franzen, Johan $3,950,000

Maltby, Kirk $833,333

Kopecky, Tomas - have to resign $525,000

Lidstrom, Nicklas $7,450,000

Rafalski, Brian $6,000,000

Stuart, Brad $3,750,000

Kronwall, Niklas $3,000,000

Ericsson, J $900,000

Lebda, Brett $650,000

Meech, Derek $483,333

Osgood, Chris $1,416,667

Howard,Jimmy $716,667

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I think Hossa is the wrong fit for the team.

For the amount of money he makes, he simply doesnt add much to the team.

Pretty simple really. Now if he came to the playoffs and scored 10 or 11 goals and played lights out, it may be different.

The fact of the matter, we won the cup without him last year. We can win it this year even though he didnt add much.

Why spend the money? Lets grab a few Dallas drake type players.

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I have a feeling Hossa's salary will be lower than $5.4 million.

P.S. Filppula is going nowhere.

I wish people would add the numbers before making a comment. Does anyone know how to add!!!!!

To keep Filppula, Hossa's cap number has to be 3 million.... get real:

This total is 56.7777 million:

Hossa, Marian $3,000,000

Datsyuk, Pavel $6,700,000

Darren Helm $599,444

Cleary, Dan $2,800,000

Zetterberg, Henrik $6,080,000

Holmstrom, Tomas $2,250,000

Draper, Kris $1,583,333

Abdelkader $740,000

Leino, V RFA -have to resign $875,000

Franzen, Johan $3,950,000

Maltby, Kirk $833,333

Filppula $3,000,000

Lidstrom, Nicklas $7,450,000

Rafalski, Brian $6,000,000

Stuart, Brad $3,750,000

Kronwall, Niklas $3,000,000

Ericsson, J $900,000

Lebda, Brett $650,000

Meech, Derek $483,333

Osgood, Chris $1,416,667

Howard,Jimmy $716,667

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Oh boy, another capologist. I promise you Valtreri Filppula will be in a Red Wings uniform next season. Would you like to place a wager on this?

Holland was unwilling to trade Filppula to the Thrashers last year, what makes you think he will be so willing to give him up now?

Still want to place a bet?

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Oh boy, another capologist. I promise you Valtreri Filppula will be in a Red Wings uniform next season. Would you like to place a wager on this?

Holland was unwilling to trade Filppula to the Thrashers last year, what makes you think he will be so willing to give him up now?

Still want to place a bet?

This is exactly why I am saying the Wings will not resign Hossa. They have to dump 3 million in salary to do so. I stated in a previous post the Wings do not want to part with Filppula. There is no other 3 million or more salary that can or will be traded. Kronwall is going nowhere. Rafalski has a NTC. Draper can't retire because his salary would still count against the cap. Stuart has a NTC I believe and won't be going anywhere either. Homer is not ready to retire and the Wings won't trade him. The team would have to be seriously altered to sign Hossa. It is easier to replace Hossa than to replace 3 or 4 or 5 other players. Without Hossa, Hudler and Sammy can be resigned.

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I also forgot to mention that Lilja would also have to traded in my examples. So you are losing Hudler, Sammy, Lilja and another 3 million salary player just to keep Hossa.... ain't never gonna happen unless the cap goes up at least 2 mil.

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