elriqo28 2 Report post Posted July 11, 2009 (edited) according to TSN Antero Niittymaki signed with TB for 600K. What the F are we paying Howard 750k for when he has proven absolutely nothing in the NHL? I'd much rather have him as a back up than Jimmy. Plus Niittymaki is just a sweet name. Edited July 11, 2009 by elriqo28 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted July 11, 2009 according to TSN Antero Niittymaki signed with TB for 600K. What the F are we paying Howard 750k for when he has proven absolutely nothing in the NHL? I'd much rather have him as a back up than Jimmy. Plus Niittymaki is just a sweet name. Yeahh... f*** prospect retention and development- we could be saving $150,000! Wow! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedFX 48 Report post Posted July 11, 2009 according to TSN Antero Niittymaki signed with TB for 600K. What the F are we paying Howard 750k for when he has proven absolutely nothing in the NHL? I'd much rather have him as a back up than Jimmy. Plus Niittymaki is just a sweet name. And Niittymaki has proved _________________________? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swayze 81 Report post Posted July 11, 2009 I'd say he would be a good pickup if: - We knew for a fact that Jimmy boy ain't gonna get it done as backup, I still think he hasn't shown enough for a solid judgement either way. - If Nittymaki hasn't been battling injuries for the last two years, he's damn good but very questionable that he's healed and can stay healthy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 24 Report post Posted July 11, 2009 I always liked Niittymaki. That said, I'd take Howard over Niittymaki. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krayzie_Bone 58 Report post Posted July 11, 2009 I was mad when I saw he signed I was wanting the Red Wings to sign Niittymaki also. I think he would have ended up starting for the Red Wings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
numberthirtynine 0 Report post Posted July 11, 2009 I'd rather pay Jimmy that 150k to do what he's done in Grand Rapids than pay 600k to Nittymaki to do what he's done on other teams his whole career. Development in the Wings system is well, well worth that extra bit of money. And we sure won't pay Nitty to go wear a Griffins jersey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 24 Report post Posted July 11, 2009 I was mad when I saw he signed I was wanting the Red Wings to sign Niittymaki also. I think he would have ended up starting for the Red Wings. When? I realize that Osgood had a s***ty season, but come on! His postseason was AWESOME! I don't see a player like Niittymaki taking his job THIS season. Just saying!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elriqo28 2 Report post Posted July 11, 2009 Yeahh... f*** prospect retention and development- we could be saving $150,000! Wow! yes, waste money on a failed project. Brilliant captain pube head! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NGKEIB 32 Report post Posted July 11, 2009 yes, waste money on a failed project. Brilliant captain pube head! Is Brilliant Captain Pube Head your signature? How can you call Howard a failed project before the regular season has even started? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CMatt89 63 Report post Posted July 11, 2009 (edited) Theres a reason why Ken Holland is our GM and your wearing street clothes in the Wings locker room with a camera in your avatar. I think he knows a little bit more than we all do.. Edited July 11, 2009 by CMatt89 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted July 11, 2009 yes, waste money on a failed project. Brilliant captain pube head! If Howard has failed, he wouldn't be playing anywhere in the minors or NHL right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jedi 1,865 Report post Posted July 11, 2009 If we were talking about a difference of a million or more, that might be one thing. That's enough to sign another player. But a difference of $150,000? That's a non issue. The league minimum salary this year is $500,000, so we couldn't use the savings on signing an extra player. So that idea is out. Now I know what you're thinking. "But I was talking about using that savings to attract another Free Agent!" Well, think about this. If we sign said "Free Agent" to a two year contract, that's a whopping difference of $75,000 per year on the cap hit. And that figure goes lower the longer the contract is for ($50,000 for 3 years, $37,500 for 4 years, $30,000 for 5 years, etc). I doubt that the difference of $75,000 per year on a two year deal would be the "tipping point" for the kind of free agent we're looking for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedFX 48 Report post Posted July 11, 2009 yes, waste money on a failed project. Brilliant captain pube head! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted July 12, 2009 If we were talking about a difference of a million or more, that might be one thing. That's enough to sign another player. But a difference of $150,000? That's a non issue. The league minimum salary this year is $500,000, so we couldn't use the savings on signing an extra player. So that idea is out. Now I know what you're thinking. "But I was talking about using that savings to attract another Free Agent!" Well, think about this. If we sign said "Free Agent" to a two year contract, that's a whopping difference of $75,000 per year on the cap hit. And that figure goes lower the longer the contract is for ($50,000 for 3 years, $37,500 for 4 years, $30,000 for 5 years, etc). I doubt that the difference of $75,000 per year on a two year deal would be the "tipping point" for the kind of free agent we're looking for. How do you figure that the cap space is spread out? It would be $150k per year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OsGOD 3 Report post Posted July 13, 2009 I was mad when I saw he signed I was wanting the Red Wings to sign Niittymaki also. I think he would have ended up starting for the Red Wings. he is a proven starter... of course he would start for the wings!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GordieSid&Ted Report post Posted July 13, 2009 yes, waste money on a failed project. Brilliant captain pube head! Not sure how much stock we can put into statistics as Jimmy only has 6 NHL games to his record. But overall, his GAA and Save % are better than Niittymaki's. Nitty is also nothing more than a career .500 goaltender. All the reports say Howard has all the tools to be a better goalie than Nitty, he just needs to work on his consistency. The bottom line is he needs and is ready to get his shot in the NHL. He'll be a fine backup. Who knows, the odds are just as good that he could surprise us as they are that you think he sucks. Holland tabbed him late in 2008 as Ozzie's backup. And the coaching staff in GR says he's ready for the NHL. And in the end. You are talking about 150K. Do you realize how trivial that is. I think that amounts to like 1/4th of 1% of the cap. It's nothing. Are you a chick by chance? I can't quite tell from your avatar but based on the fact that you get all worked up (pube head?) over such an insignificant goalie in Nitty and 150K, my guess is you are a drama queen/little girl. And no offense to the ladies on this board as the rest of them are A OK! You're just a little ***** and you're giving the rest of the girls on this forum a bad name Dorothy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wingseroo 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2009 People around here somtimes seem to forget that Howard was considered a few years back the top North American Goalie prospect, but teams shied away from him because they didnt think he could be Signed away from Maine... The Wings selected him and took there chance and Howard did sign right before the Wings were about to lose his rights and he would have went back into the draft pool... I am just saying that at one time he was about the most sought after amateur goalie around... It was the whole college vs pro thing same thing that happens in baseball where a top 10 talent drops down in the draft due to the ability to sign them... He may fail, but then he may get it done... People seem to forget sometimes that a few years back he was the best known prospect in the organization... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gordie Howe hat trick 110 Report post Posted July 13, 2009 Not sure how much stock we can put into statistics as Jimmy only has 6 NHL games to his record. But overall, his GAA and Save % are better than Niittymaki's. Nitty is also nothing more than a career .500 goaltender. All the reports say Howard has all the tools to be a better goalie than Nitty, he just needs to work on his consistency. The bottom line is he needs and is ready to get his shot in the NHL. He'll be a fine backup. Who knows, the odds are just as good that he could surprise us as they are that you think he sucks. Holland tabbed him late in 2008 as Ozzie's backup. And the coaching staff in GR says he's ready for the NHL. And in the end. You are talking about 150K. Do you realize how trivial that is. I think that amounts to like 1/4th of 1% of the cap. It's nothing. Are you a chick by chance? I can't quite tell from your avatar but based on the fact that you get all worked up (pube head?) over such an insignificant goalie in Nitty and 150K, my guess is you are a drama queen/little girl. And no offense to the ladies on this board as the rest of them are A OK! You're just a little ***** and you're giving the rest of the girls on this forum a bad name Dorothy. I have always been a fan of Howard, and everyone knows that I have full faith in him to preform. Howard will do a fine job, he has waited for his chance and now he is going to show he has what it takes; mark my words. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StormJH1 231 Report post Posted July 13, 2009 (1) I'm not done with Jimmy Howard yet. He hasn't wowed with his limited regular season performances yet, but if you judged Chris Osgood based on pretty much ANY 6 regular season games from last year, you'd probably conclude he was one of the worst goalies in the NHL. (2) It's not like the Wings are forfeiting all hope of picking up a veteran backup on the caliber of a Conklin or Nittimiyaki mid-way through the season. And since we aren't paying huge coin to Marian Hossa (and Samuelsson & Hudler are also leaving), there's a chance we'll actually have some breathing room under the Cap, which pretty much nobody expected. (3) Nittimiyaki is a Finn who would be asking a defensive corps made out of a ton of Swedes to dive all over the place in front of him. Not saying it would be a problem, but with the exception of Filppula, this team favors Swedes over Finns, and it's not secret that teams play harder for some teammates than they do for others. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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