Detroit MIGHT BE interested in Kessel?

[Aussie_Wing 354]

Going to be an insanely good player but there is absolutely no chance he signs here. None.

[Z and D for the C 712]

If you trade filppula, who are you gonig to have center the second line? Helm?

[rage 24]

If you trade filppula, who are you gonig to have center the second line? Helm?

Z or Dats?

[gcom007 1,465]

Kessel just DM'd me back on Twitter after I asked him about the possibility of coming to Detroit earlier. He simply said, "Thanks for the support. Nothing done yet but stay tuned..."

This is me trying to make it on Eklunds site...

[Z and D for the C 712]

Z or Dats?

That would require splitting them up. This last year should put that experiment to rest.

[Drake_Marcus 890]

Boston could waive or trade Fernandez and have all of the cap space in the world.

The cap numbers I quoted did not include Fernandez. They're about 3 million over the cap without Fernandez.

[Drake_Marcus 890]

If you trade filppula, who are you gonig to have center the second line? Helm?

We're boned if Helm is our 2nd line centre.

[Z and D for the C 712]

^ That was my point, but I didn't realize that Kessel does in fact play center.

Regardless, I think Filppula is more important to the wings than Kessel. He have a scorer on the line, Franzen, we need someone able to distribute to the puck.

Edited July 26, 2009 by Z and D for the C

[T.Low 1,011]

Nice! Kessel = no, too expensive. Eaves, or Pyatt? I guess for a discount sure. Eaves wouldn't cost so much considering he's getting nearly $1M from the Bruins for the next 4 years from the buyout, you may be able to offer him another $1M contract and total nearly $2M a year. I totally forgot Brent Sopel was in camp last year and turned down the Wings offer, looks like he'll probaly have to be dealt next year to relieve some cap space. Best case scenario, Trade Meech or Lebda, sign a UFA for $1M or less, let McGrath and Oulahen try to get the fourth line spots.

Edit: On the other Hand, a 21 year old who can score 40 goals, trade Kronwall & the rights to Hudler, that should get him here PLUS open up enough cap...

Then Lidstrom retires, Lilja retires due to injury and we have Rafalski, Stuart, Ericson, Lebda, Kindl. Hmm

[gcom007 1,465]

^ That was my point, but I didn't realize that Kessel does in fact play center.

Regardless, I think Filppula is more important to the wings than Kessel. He have a scorer on the line, Franzen, we need someone able to distribute to the puck.

Not sure about that. Not disagreeing, just not sure. I don't think he'll be moved this summer, but I still think Flip would be the first guy to be traded if we needed to either clear cap space for a bigger signing (won't happen this summer) or make a splash deal at the deadline/clear cap space. He's a good player, but he doesn't have the best hands in the world to say the least and gets paid quite a bit (in Red Wing Cap World) considering he's most likely never going to net more than 45-50 points tops. If he doesn't come out significantly stronger than he has in his past 3 seasons through February and the Wings feel like they need to make a big deal at the deadline, I think he's going to be gone. I hear everything people say, but the cap is what it is and they might not wait forever for Flip to potentially grow into his cap hit when he'd be easy to trade, yield a good return and free up the most space. A 36 point-pace is not going to do it especially as the regular season race becomes more competitive. This is going to be a big year for him. If he doesn't show significant improvement, I wouldn't be shocked at all if he was on another team in 2010/11.

[cjm502 165]

That would be amazing but I doubt it will happen. We could waive Lilja, and offer up a long term contract. This kid is a beast, he is putting up more points than Shanny did at that age. Kenny needs to try to work some magic, there is serious potential here.

[Z and D for the C 712]

considering he's most likely never going to net more than 45-50 points tops.

That is way off. He got 40 points this year with basically no PP time and a checking role for the most part. With more PP time and being on a scoring line, Flip will get at least 65 points this year.

[Drake_Marcus 890]

That is way off. He got 40 points this year with basically no PP time and a checking role for the most part. With more PP time and being on a scoring line, Flip will get at least 65 points this year.

Your understanding of Filppula's talent is waaayyyy off. Sorry man, but he hasn't got the hands to put up 65 pts. He already had more than 18 mins a game last year, adding 2 mins of powerplay time will not boost his scoring by more than 50%. He just doesn't have the hands to get "at least 65 points this year".

Filppula averaged just over 16 mins a game last year. He had just under a minute of average PP time. Let's say he gets Hudler's PP time. Now he's playing 3 mins of PP time a game. Cool. Filppula managed 1 goal and 3 assists on the PP last year. So let's say his time triples-- now he's got 3 goals and 9 assists. That's 8 more points. Now his ice time has jumped up to 18 mins, more than Hossa averaged last year. Filppula's generous new total is 48pts. A career year for someone with his offensive talent.

It should also be noted that if Filppula's the new replacement for Hudler on the PP our 2nd unit is considerably less talented. Hudler's offensive skill is at least twice that of Filppula.

[Z and D for the C 712]

Hudler's offensive skill is at least twice that of Filppula.

Which is why Filppula has more even strength points than Hudler?

And not good hands?

(^ of course that was just luck though)

(^ crazy angle goal, and lets not forget the SICK keep in and pass he made to hossa)

And lets not forget the two amazing plays by filppula here:

He has greats hands. People smarter than (ie the red wings front office) you realize this.

Edited July 26, 2009 by Z and D for the C

[ShanahanMan 473]

Which is why Filppula has more even strength points than Hudler?

And not good hands?

(^ of course that was just luck though)

(^ crazy angle goal, and lets not forget the SICK keep in and pass he made to hossa)

And lets not forget the two amazing plays by filppula here:

He has greats hands. People smarter than (ie the red wings front office) you realize this.

He had 36 points a few seasons ago and then 40 this season (with a seven goal drop from 19 to 12), and now you think he's just gonna jump to 65 points? Wishful thinking. Plus, he's probably going to be stuck with less talented linemates than before, which will really limit his production.

This goes right along with everyone's strange assumption that Leino with put up 20 goals, Helm will put up 25, and Abs will put up at least 15. I just don't get it.

[titanium2 867]

I love that pass. I wish there were a better version of it on YT.

I hope that the addition of a full time Helm pushes Fil into the top six permanently and I don't care if he's on Pav's wing. That along with shooting the puck more and I expect him to get at least get 50 points, 57 max, and that would be a breakout year for him. 65 is a pretty big jump for someone who had 40 last year.

[P. Marlowe 748]

Why not get both Kessel and Heatley? Just trade Fil, Hudler's rights and Meech. Easy.

[dat's sick 1,002]

If Filppula plays the way he did in the playoffs he could easily get 60 points. Especially if he finally understands that he needs to shoot more, something he barely did for the first half of last season.

[Z and D for the C 712]

Plus, he's probably going to be stuck with less talented linemates than before, which will really limit his production.

Do you think he's going to be on the fourth line with maltby and draper or do you not realize that flip only played with franzen and hossa for about 15 games.

[wmubronco420 25]

I think its very reasonable to say that flip could get 60 pts next season. He had a dreadful start to the season but with his second half + the playoffs he looked amazing. And how will he be playing with less talented players? He'll be centering the second line for the whole year (most likely) last year he was stuck on the 3rd line with Huds and Sammy.

[Green Wing 26]

This is me trying to make it on Eklunds site...

Now that's just naughty.

[thedatsyukian 7]

Kessel is not coming to Detroit. Too pricey of a commodity.

[kylee 727]

itd be SICK if Kessel came over to the Wings but how would that even be possible if Detroit is so close to the cap? anyone?

[Snazzy 0]

Why do people here think Boston would want Filppula? They could Kessel for nearly the same money, but either way, neither player addresses Boston's cap problems. Boston is having MAJOR cap issues and the last thing they want is another 3.5 million dollar salary to deal with.

Kessel isn't coming to Detroit. So keep playing the NHL09 where you can make unrealistic signings and trades. Cap world is real in the real NHL world, which is why Kessel isn't coming to Detroit.

Holland might look for one more 1 million dollar player to fill a hole and that's it. Expect Oulahen and McGrath to fill the other two holes.

[Dominator2005 558]

Why do people here think Boston would want Filppula? They could Kessel for nearly the same money, but either way, neither player addresses Boston's cap problems. Boston is having MAJOR cap issues and the last thing they want is another 3.5 million dollar salary to deal with.

Kessel isn't coming to Detroit. So keep playing the NHL09 where you can make unrealistic signings and trades. Cap world is real in the real NHL world, which is why Kessel isn't coming to Detroit.

Holland might look for one more 1 million dollar player to fill a hole and that's it. Expect Oulahen and McGrath to fill the other two holes.

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