egroen 384 Report post Posted September 4, 2009 (edited) All these guys could have 30-60 points next year, with spots open on the second power play as well as 2nd line -- who will earn those minutes and register the most points? Filppula 2009: 80 GP 12 G 28 A 40 PTS .50 PPG Leino 2009: 13 GP 5 G 4 A 9 PTS .69 PPG Williams 2006: 80 GP 21 G 37 A 58 PTS .73 PPG Cleary 2009: 74 GP 14 G 26 A 40 PTS .54 PPG Bertuzzi 2009: 66 GP 15 G 29 A 44 PTS .67 PPG Eaves 2006: 58 GP 20 G 9 A 29 PTS .50 PPG Edited September 4, 2009 by egroen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted September 4, 2009 I don't see anyone even touching Filppulla this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egroen 384 Report post Posted September 4, 2009 I voted Williams -- simply because I think he has the least competition for the 2nd Power Play Unit, a righty on the point who has been there before. Not a single other player up there is a lock for the 2nd line or 2nd PP... and there could be a lot of shuffling. Unless Williams screws it up pretty bad (very possible) I think he will have the most time of all of them on the PP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted September 4, 2009 I don't see anyone even touching Filppulla this year. I agree 65+ pts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b.shanafan14 733 Report post Posted September 4, 2009 Filppula is a lock for the 2nd line Center, he'll have Franzen on one side and one of either Williams, Bertuzzi, or Leino on his other side. Whoever gets slotted on Filppula's other wing could even the playing field, but I think Filppula's playmaking skills are superior to both and if he ever learns to shoot the puck, he'll be all that much more dangerous with his newly found ice time. Filppula should be a safe bet at 20-40-60 this season. I'd love to see the lines: Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Cleary Franzen-Filppula-Leino Bertuzzi-Helm-Williams Holmstrom-Draper-Eaves Especially if Leino has worked, as reported, on his skating and his defense, both being his weak points. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaman 713 Report post Posted September 4, 2009 I dont see flip going over 50 points this year, a 50% increase in scoring this year, while id love it, is probably not going to happen. But, since im on the Leino bandwagon, im gunna say he gets 1 more point then Flipper this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hooon 1,089 Report post Posted September 4, 2009 despite the talk lately that filp can and never will be that breakout scorer that we all want... i still hold out hope that he will be. Even though we all said it last year too, this year HAS to be his breakout year. Filp will establish himself this season an elite 2nd liner and will start off the season very strongly, unlike years past. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buppy 1,720 Report post Posted September 4, 2009 Filppula - 21-35-56 Cleary - 26-28-54 Bertuzzi - 21-31-52 Williams - 19-26-45 Leino - 16-12-28 Eaves - 9-13-22 It's as much about how I hope players are used as how I expect them to be. Leino and Williams mostly on the third line, Eaves on the 4th, Cleary and Bert moving around on all the top 3 lines, Flip 2nd line. Just as likely that Cleary spends most of his time with Pav and Hank and so gets another 10-15 points. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,803 Report post Posted September 4, 2009 Flip has a rotten shot and is more of a passer than scorer. I want to say Bertuzzi, but I doubt he'll be healthy all year. I'll take Cleary, as long as he plays on the top 2 lines all year. If not, then Williams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted September 4, 2009 despite the talk lately that filp can and never will be that breakout scorer that we all want... i still hold out hope that he will be. Even though we all said it last year too, this year HAS to be his breakout year. Filp will establish himself this season an elite 2nd liner and will start off the season very strongly, unlike years past. He has a larger role on the team this year, as opposed to last year when his role actually diminished with the Hossa signing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted September 4, 2009 Agreed. Many here think Filppula will find his scoring touch, and nab 60 plus during the reg season (I wish)...I honestly don't see that happening...He'll continue to be a 40-50 point guy, and Williams will manage 50-55 with the time on the pp. You guys don't think Filppula will receive any power play time? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egroen 384 Report post Posted September 4, 2009 You guys don't think Filppula will receive any power play time? I think he will be given the benefit of the doubt at the beginning of the season, but might struggle to maintain it. Flip's playmaking usually comes about from generating opportunities with his strong backchecking and puck-carrying abilities (at even strength) -- and not necessarily from quick, accurate passes or going strong to the net -- so I am not sure if he will ever be that strong of a PP performer. One thing that might keep him on it is he is strong at faceoffs -- Williams is decent but will probably be on the point; Cleary and Franzen seem to be good, but do not take nearly as much. Ultimately, I just see Filppula, Leino, Bertuzzi and Cleary rotating in and out of the 2nd PP unit for a while before something sticks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken 16 381 Report post Posted September 4, 2009 I voted Flip. I'm hoping a full time Bert/Flip/Mule line will be cemented in the 2nd line slot and Flip will be an assist machine. I can dream. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest lnvincible Report post Posted September 4, 2009 I voted Flip. I'm hoping a full time Bert/Flip/Mule line will be cemented in the 2nd line slot and Flip will be an assist machine. I can dream. Im going to put my money on Big Bert Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted September 4, 2009 Cleary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MabusIncarnate 5,359 Report post Posted October 5, 2009 Bert.. just a feelin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingfanatic4alltime 32 Report post Posted November 15, 2009 Leino seems like he is finally starting to get hot he's played great the last 4 or 5 games i think he will get more points then the other players mentioned i also think flips injury helps leino obviously. Im gonna say Leino 55 pts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites