[GDT] 10/2 - Blues 4, Red Wings 3 (Stockholm)

[wingnut22 81]

without reading through 28 pages, did anyone else catch at the beginning of the game on VS they started out with the score St Louis 4, Wings 3? then it quickly went down and when it came back up it said 0-0. My cousin and I both noticed. Did anyone else? I find it really weird!

[edicius 3,269]

Uh, no. There wasn't really anything that could have been called that wasn't. If they did, it would have been a nitpicky call.

One instance: Homer got sent to the box for roughing, no Blues got sent (even after a blatant slash that knocked a stick and glove out of a Wings player's hand) and the Blues score on the resulting PP. Pretty big goal there.

But that aside, we just weren't good enough, simple as that.

[SweWings 45]

without reading through 28 pages, did anyone else catch at the beginning of the game on VS they started out with the score St Louis 4, Wings 3? then it quickly went down and when it came back up it said 0-0. My cousin and I both noticed. Did anyone else? I find it really weird!

SORCERY!!

[uk_redwing 495]

SORCERY!!

It was Babs final stategy to try and send the game to OT...change the score to 0-0 and see if anyone notices

[GMRwings1983 8,804]

We are a good team. We are a Cup contender. The Blues just outworked, outskated, and outperformered us. Couple that with a fantastic record down the stretch last season, all while being without 2-3 very key components, and I think you just might stumble upon a legitimate Cup contender.

Better luck next time, ******.

Wow, you actually made a constructive post instead of engaging in pointless name calling (although you couldn't refrain from still being an a-hole at the end).

So they beat us in a game. Big deal. They did s*** in the playoffs last year by not even winning a game. They're not even close to being a Cup contender. Not enough talent and skill to compete with the top teams when it goes into the playoffs in big games. Hell, the Blues weren't a good playoff team even when they had lots of talent. They're not any kind of threat to us in the Central.

[The Mule 0]

Wow, you actually made a constructive post instead of engaging in pointless name calling (although you couldn't refrain from still being an a-hole at the end).

So they beat us in a game. Big deal. They did s*** in the playoffs last year by not even winning a game. They're not even close to being a Cup contender. Not enough talent and skill to compete with the top teams when it goes into the playoffs in big games. Hell, the Blues weren't a good playoff team even when they had lots of talent. They're not any kind of threat to us in the Central.

The Blues will make a good run at the Cup.

I'll be here to say I told you so.

[GMRwings1983 8,804]

The Blues will make a good run at the Cup.

I'll be here to say I told you so.

Hopefully you'll be banned before that time.

[Snazzy 0]

1 loss. I wouldn't worry too much about it. The Red Wings showed signs of their old form, the machine isn't oiled yet. When does get oiled, look out! The Red Wings are going to dominate like they always do. This loss was fluke in terms of lot of unlucky bounces, rusty timing, Wings seemed dazy plus a solid game by Mason. Mason might be a good goalie, but he hasn't proven himself yet. He could be a playoff chokers (if Blues even make the playoffs).

Red Wings will take first place in the Central Division. Bank it.

Edited October 3, 2009 by Snazzy

[GMRwings1983 8,804]

1 loss. I wouldn't worry too much about it. The Red Wings showed signs of their old form, the machine isn't oiled yet. When does get oiled, look out! The Red Wings are going to dominate like they always do. This loss was fluke in terms of lot of unlucky bounces, rusty timing, Wings seemed dazy plus a solid game by Mason. Mason might be a good goalie, but he hasn't proven himself yet. He could be a playoff chokers (if Blues even make the playoffs).

Red Wings will take first place in the Central Division. Bank it.

They didn't show much last year in the playoffs. Chicago is our only threat in the Central.

[The Mule 0]

Hopefully you'll be banned before that time.

[TheDetroitRedWings 286]

The Blues will make a good run at the Cup.

I'll be here to say I told you so.

I usually agree with you man. But in this case you need to put down the pipe. The Blackhawks, Red Wings, and Blue Jackets are all much more complete teams. Blues will be either dead last or second to dead last in the division. I mean I know no one knows how things will play out for sure, but even if by some miracle they make the playoffs, no way in hell they are making a "good run" at the cup. They will be ousted in the first round if they're lucky enough to make it.

[Carman 387]

Blues are very underrated. They have two very good goalies and a have very high potential on the back end and if the defense comes together they will have a great regular season in my opinion. Paul Kariya is a PPG player that was out of their line up most of last season. They have a lot of good young scorers and have an edge with Crombeen and Winchester. They are much more complete then Nashville and Columbus in my opinion and will make the playoffs.

[The Mule 0]

I usually agree with you man. But in this case you need to put down the pipe. The Blackhawks, Red Wings, and Blue Jackets are all much more complete teams. Blues will be either dead last or second to dead last in the division. I mean I know no one knows how things will play out for sure, but even if by some miracle they make the playoffs, no way in hell they are making a "good run" at the cup. They will be ousted in the first round if they're lucky enough to make it.

I fail to see how Columbus can be called a more complete team than the Blues. If Nash were to ever go down, the Blue Jackets would be toast, while the Blues managed to earn the 6th seed last year (one seed higher than the Jackets, I might add) without (arguably) their best player.

[tdinc 45]

Wings will split the series in Stockholm....

[TheDetroitRedWings 286]

I fail to see how Columbus can be called a more complete team than the Blues. If Nash were to ever go down, the Blue Jackets would be toast, while the Blues managed to earn the 6th seed last year (one seed higher than the Jackets, I might add) without (arguably) their best player.

Blue Jackets have a lot of underrated young fowards. They're D is mediocre. But I'll take Steve Mason over Chris Mason any day of the week. And Steve Mason was just a rookie last year. So chances are he will be even more capable this year. And we all know the number one key ingredient to success in the NHL...goaltending.

-Edit- Unless you're the Red Wings and rely on a mediocre goalie but back it up with great forward and defensive depth. But other than the Wings, goaltending seams to always be an insanely huge factor.

Edited October 3, 2009 by TheDetroitRedWings

[Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204]

Didnt see the game, but didnt need to. To have all these Swedes and come back something other then 2-0 makes this Sweden thing a big mistake. Hopefully they win tommorow and get back to Detroit asap and get some things figured out, cant be blowing leads to frickin St Louis.

[hankzet40 233]

I really hope this isn't another year of Detroit regular season collapses. On the plus, Maltby played an excellent game so hopefully that continues.

[FedorovMan91 1]

Ozzie looks just like he did in the preseason and in the regular season last year. Once again, every mistake the Wings made wound up in the net.

Yeah, I did not watch the first goal so I do not know what happened but except for the 4th goal, which was a super mistake by the defense, Osgood had to have 2nd and 3rd goal. Although 2nd goal was a bit of screening, Osgood had to make that save. 3rd goal was all his fault, terrible rebound control.

There is a still long way to go and it is only the first game but Osgood showed the indicaton of his poor performance at the start of the season last year. Hopefully that trend does not occur this year.

[HanKarin40 7]

without reading through 28 pages, did anyone else catch at the beginning of the game on VS they started out with the score St Louis 4, Wings 3? then it quickly went down and when it came back up it said 0-0. My cousin and I both noticed. Did anyone else? I find it really weird!

Yeah, I saw that too! I had to rewind the Tivo to make sure I saw what I thought I saw. Bizarre!

[FedorovMan91 1]

Mason is why Blues won. Sleepy, droggy (SCF hungover) Red Wings is why we lost. Not a good combination...

Red Wings will have no problem taking 1st place in the Central Division.

Mason is why Blues won? During the 2nd period, the Wings neutral zone was absolutely crushed by the Blues. Overall, the Wings played like a last season. Getting good momentum in the beginning but absolutely look lost out there since the mid of 2nd period.

There will be no guarantee the Wings will keep the first spot in the Central division. As Babcock said last season, the Central division is no cake for the Wings anymore.

[gcom007 1,465]

That is pretty much what I was thinking as well. Although, the fact that we all play each other so much [sTL/DET/CHI] could be bad news for one of our teams as well as Columbus.

Of course, we all know what happens with pre-season speculation.

Well, bad news in that one team will get a top 3 seed and two others could be anywhere in the 4th through 8th slots. Who wins the division is up in the air and likely will be down to the wire. Like I've said, I think there'll be 10 points seperating 1st and 8th seeds. But even though St. Louis, Chicago and Detroit will beat up on each other a lot, they're still going to smoke most of the other teams they come across. Something disastrous would have to happen for any one of Detroit, Chicago and St. Louis to not make the playoffs. They're just too strong in general.

[gcom007 1,465]

They didn't show much last year in the playoffs. Chicago is our only threat in the Central.

They didn't have Kariya either. Barring injuries, they're going to be a much better team this year. They've got two goalies who can win games and they work hard. Confidence and swagger will help this young bunch out a great deal and the more they keep winning, the more they'll have. Like I've said many times, I think any team heading into the playoffs from the West is going to have a reasonable shot at the Cup if only due to the way seeding might end up working out. I certainly think some will have a better shot than others, but I think St. Louis has the potential to become as much or more of a threat than Chicago.

Below is my total longshot prediction for what the playoffs could look like. San Jose and Calgary will likely win their divisions and I expect them to get more points than any central team simply because they're in far easier divisions. The Central teams are going to beat the hell out of each other, but they'll beat a lot of other teams too. So let's say we get 3, 4, 5 slots filled by central teams. You see how it starts to get interesting? I think the point spread/seeding will be far more important this year than any other year. If a team from the Central doesn't win the conference and I don't think they will, it's going to make for some beefy first round match-ups with built in upsets.

Could you imagine Detroit or Chicago losing in the first round because of odd seeding? Say Detroit and St. Louis then meet in the 2nd round. Another beatdown later, one will go to the semi's, but in what shape? Could a lesser team from the top brackets sneak through and seize an opportunity because the ultimately better teams are tired or beat up? It's going to be interesting...

1 - San Jose

8 - Edmonton

2 - Calgary

7 - Anaheim

3 - St. Louis

6 - Vancouver

4 - Detroit

5 - Chicago

[sputman 1,268]

Thanks for the Info Eye Patch Wearing Arms crossed guy!

haha!

[wingnut22 81]

Yeah, I saw that too! I had to rewind the Tivo to make sure I saw what I thought I saw. Bizarre!

glad I'm not the only one who caught that!! the game before the wings game ended 4-3 as well though. so I think thats why it was like that? I dunno. it was weird though.

[Snazzy 0]

Mason is why Blues won? During the 2nd period, the Wings neutral zone was absolutely crushed by the Blues. Overall, the Wings played like a last season. Getting good momentum in the beginning but absolutely look lost out there since the mid of 2nd period.

There will be no guarantee the Wings will keep the first spot in the Central division. As Babcock said last season, the Central division is no cake for the Wings anymore.

Yep. Mason was the absolute factor today for the Blues win. He stoned Bert, Cleary and Zetterberg. Those were absolutely brilliant saves that would make Brodeur blush.