robb himself 143 Report post Posted October 30, 2009 now that we are without Franzen AND Filppula...our lines are going to need a shake.... maybe something like this? Leino, Datsyuk, Williams Cleary, Zetterberg, Bertuzzi Holmstrom ,Draper, Abdelkater May, Helm, Eaves I'm LOVING that 4th line by the way....those guys played their ASSES off tonight any other ideas? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted October 30, 2009 Datsyuk/Zetterberg/Holmstrom Cleary/Williams/Leino Eaves/Abdelkader/Bertuzzi Maltby/Draper/Helm May Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ComradeWasabi 109 Report post Posted October 30, 2009 Wait for blueadams. He'll tell us what to do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 24 Report post Posted October 30, 2009 Wait for blueadams. He'll tell us what to do. ROFLMAO!!! Yep, and he's gonna be pissed you already posted this thread! Keep that 4th line together though!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 24 Report post Posted October 30, 2009 Datsyuk/Zetterberg/Holmstrom Cleary/Williams/Leino Eaves/Abdelkader/Bertuzzi Maltby/Draper/Helm May Swap those two and keep our 4th line together that played tonight. Bertuzzi is more proven than Leino. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcom007 1,465 Report post Posted October 30, 2009 I'd really like to see Williams center a line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brett 1,029 Report post Posted October 30, 2009 (edited) now that we are without Franzen AND Filppula...our lines are going to need a shake.... maybe something like this? Leino, Datsyuk, Holmstrom Cleary, Zetterberg, Bertuzzi Williams ,Draper, Abdelkater May, Helm, Eaves I'm LOVING that 4th line by the way....those guys played their ASSES off tonight any other ideas? sounds good cept id rather switch holmstrom and williams. holmstrom is worthless without datsyuk or zetterberg with him Edited October 30, 2009 by brett Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robb himself 143 Report post Posted October 30, 2009 fair enough Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcom007 1,465 Report post Posted October 30, 2009 I liked a bit of what I saw with Datsyuk and Bertuzzi tonight too, though Bertuzzi-Dats-Holmstrom is a recipe for defensive, neutral zone, etc. disaster. Any line with Bert or Homer needs a complimentary winger who can move out there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 24 Report post Posted October 30, 2009 (edited) The more I think about it the more sense it makes to keep the ZDH line together. They need to get back their chemistry they had 2 years ago. Especially now w/ all the injuries. We need that line to be killer and help us win games. And by killer, I mean one of the best lines in the entire NHL. Edited October 30, 2009 by rage Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aussie_Wing 354 Report post Posted October 30, 2009 Williams/Datsyuk/Holmstrom Cleary/Zetterberg/Leino Eaves/Helm/Bertuzzi Maltby/Draper/May Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sureWhyNot 19 Report post Posted October 30, 2009 Cleary, Datsyuk, Bertuzzi Holmstrom, Zetterberg, Williams Leino ,Draper, Eaves May, Helm, Abdelkater *With Abdelkater and Eaves interchangeable Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcom007 1,465 Report post Posted October 30, 2009 I'd start with this for awhile but I'd want to see plenty of mix-ups and guys battling for top line minutes. Leino/Datsyuk/Bertuzzi Cleary/Zetterberg/Holmstrom Eaves/Williams/Abdelkater Maltby/Draper/Helm' (May) So you Mix in May here and there depending on how things go. Mix up Bertuzzi and Holmstrom between Z and Dats for as well as Leino and Cleary. As said, I'd love for them to experiment a lot. I'd like to see a Dats, Z, Bertuzzi line be out there at times. I'd like to see Jason Williams show how offensively capable of a player he can be and really take charge of a line and raise hell in the offensive zone. They'd be weakest on defense but maybe not awful (how could they be any worse than what we've seen from almost all the lines thus far???) and hell, maybe they find a spark and get something going. I'd like to see Leino, Eaves and Abdelkater getting opportunities at top line minutes, but I want them to battle for it. I want them to start pushing for a shot on the big lines. All three are capable of scoring goals and this is the best opportunity they're going to have all year to get big minutes. I'm not worried to be honest. I think this season just got a little more exciting. I really believe that we're going to see a few guys really step up and surprise us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robb himself 143 Report post Posted October 30, 2009 I totally agree bud. 100% and I also think we should bring up Larsson and let him play a few games and see what he can offer at the highest level. Whats the worst that can happen? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted October 30, 2009 I'd start with this for awhile but I'd want to see plenty of mix-ups and guys battling for top line minutes. Leino/Datsyuk/Bertuzzi Cleary/Zetterberg/Holmstrom Eaves/Williams/Abdelkater Maltby/Draper/Helm' (May) So you Mix in May here and there depending on how things go. Mix up Bertuzzi and Holmstrom between Z and Dats for as well as Leino and Cleary. As said, I'd love for them to experiment a lot. I'd like to see a Dats, Z, Bertuzzi line be out there at times. I'd like to see Jason Williams show how offensively capable of a player he can be and really take charge of a line and raise hell in the offensive zone. They'd be weakest on defense but maybe not awful (how could they be any worse than what we've seen from almost all the lines thus far???) and hell, maybe they find a spark and get something going. I'd like to see Leino, Eaves and Abdelkater getting opportunities at top line minutes, but I want them to battle for it. I want them to start pushing for a shot on the big lines. All three are capable of scoring goals and this is the best opportunity they're going to have all year to get big minutes. I'm not worried to be honest. I think this season just got a little more exciting. I really believe that we're going to see a few guys really step up and surprise us. I like these lines but I'd rather see Abdelkader centre the 3rd and Williams stay on the wing. He seems better when he's got less defensive responsibility and the centre position is the most demanding defensively. Keep Leino and Datsyuk together-- they seem to have good chemistry and Dats is the perfect guy to get Leino going and help bring his confidence back up. Leino's been playing fine he's just been snake-bit when it comes to posts and missing the net by inches. He's got to be second only to Bertuzzi and Lidstrom in posts lately. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mule 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2009 As long as we find a way to win some games, I don't give a rat's ass what the lines are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcom007 1,465 Report post Posted October 30, 2009 I like these lines but I'd rather see Abdelkader centre the 3rd and Williams stay on the wing. He seems better when he's got less defensive responsibility and the centre position is the most demanding defensively. Keep Leino and Datsyuk together-- they seem to have good chemistry and Dats is the perfect guy to get Leino going and help bring his confidence back up. Leino's been playing fine he's just been snake-bit when it comes to posts and missing the net by inches. He's got to be second only to Bertuzzi and Lidstrom in posts lately. I agree totally about Leino. I think Dats is a great match to get him going, but I'd like to see what he could do with Z as well, or Dats/Z/Leino every now and again! And I get what you're saying about Williams. I think it's worth giving him some time and an opportunity to center. I'm thinking of it as Williams trying to rethink his game and take it up a level and become a more complete player. He's always had a lot of skill but his work ethic has been questionable through the years, he bounced around, ran his mouth, got traded a few times and so on and so forth. But he's older now and he's coming back here after not generating much interest from other teams. This whole season is an opportunity for him and now he's got the chance to take on even more responsibility. He's got the skills to be a much better player than he is and I have little doubt that he could evolve into becoming a stronger defensive player as well. As far as skill and development, Williams probably has the best shot out of anyone we've got right now to become a solid scoring line center. Abdelkater would be fine, but good enough to not be quickly replaced by Flip without a second thought once he returns? Highly unlikely. He's a rookie. But Williams has been around and he's shown that he has the skills. He's still only 29 as well, so it's not like he's too old to change; he's still got all his assets going strong but he's got a lot more experience too. He's at that point in his career where he knows in the back of his head more than anyone how much he stands to gain from a big opportunity. Could he have it in him to elevate his game? I really don't know, but I think it's worth giving him a shot. What's the worst that could happen? He flounders in the role so you see what Abdelkater can do. I think you've got to give a guy like Williams a big opportunity though at this stage in the game. If I'm Holland, before I make any trades, I'm giving Williams and others some real opportunities. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dropkickshanahans 463 Report post Posted October 30, 2009 (edited) I'd start with this for awhile but I'd want to see plenty of mix-ups and guys battling for top line minutes. Leino/Datsyuk/Bertuzzi Cleary/Zetterberg/Holmstrom Eaves/Williams/Abdelkater Maltby/Draper/Helm' (May) So you Mix in May here and there depending on how things go. Mix up Bertuzzi and Holmstrom between Z and Dats for as well as Leino and Cleary. As said, I'd love for them to experiment a lot. I'd like to see a Dats, Z, Bertuzzi line be out there at times. I'd like to see Jason Williams show how offensively capable of a player he can be and really take charge of a line and raise hell in the offensive zone. They'd be weakest on defense but maybe not awful (how could they be any worse than what we've seen from almost all the lines thus far???) and hell, maybe they find a spark and get something going. I'd like to see Leino, Eaves and Abdelkater getting opportunities at top line minutes, but I want them to battle for it. I want them to start pushing for a shot on the big lines. All three are capable of scoring goals and this is the best opportunity they're going to have all year to get big minutes. I'm not worried to be honest. I think this season just got a little more exciting. I really believe that we're going to see a few guys really step up and surprise us. I wholeheartedly agree. Although I'm sad to see Flip gone as well on the IR, I just feel rather anxious to see what we can do. I'm more pumped at the thought of Leino possibly getting paired with Datsyuk or Zetterberg. Edited October 30, 2009 by dropkickshanahans Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wing Across The Pond 196 Report post Posted October 30, 2009 As long as we find a way to win some games, I don't give a rat's ass what the lines are. Yeah just something to get a spark going on at least one line other than the 4th. Plus (I know it was never really part of the question but) I'd throw Larsson into the mix, he won again last night with a good shut out. Plus more and more I'm liking that plain white helmet, old school but with the wing on the side. But back to the matter at hand, Homer has been impressing me in some games, but definitely not last night, but Burt to me has been consistent and looks sharp. With that I'd go Cleary - Datsyuk - Bertuzzi Williams - Zetterberg - Leino Holmstrom - Draper - Abdlekader May/Maltby - Helm - Eaves if not then Helm third line centre to get him some more minutes and keep the pressure. Then again it still mostly comes down to chemistry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted October 30, 2009 With the chemistry, I hate the idea of breaking up ZDH, even without Fil to center the 2nd line... we need at least one bonafide scoring line Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Holmstrom Leino-Cleary-Bertuzzi Draper-Helm-Williams May-Abdelkader-Eaves Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dat's sick 1,002 Report post Posted October 30, 2009 Bertuzzi-Datsyuk-Holmstrom Cleary-Zetterberg-Leino Eaves-Helm-Draper May-Abdelkader-Maltby ZDH line would be nice, but I think that would make us too weak down the middle sadly.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted October 30, 2009 (edited) Bertuzzi-Datsyuk-Holmstrom Cleary-Zetterberg-Leino Eaves-Helm-Draper May-Abdelkader-Maltby ZDH line would be nice, but I think that would make us too weak down the middle sadly.. in that scenario, you have to give Dats more speed to work with than that... plus, I just do NOT like Leino on his off wing, he seems VERY uncomfortable there... if we're breaking them up - Leino-Datsyuk-Bertuzzi Cleary-Zetterberg-Holmstrom Draper-Helm-Williams (also better off on their right side) May-Abdelkader-Maltby Edited October 30, 2009 by stevkrause Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lidstromboli Report post Posted October 30, 2009 Leino-Datsyuk-Bertuzzi Cleary-Zetterberg-Cleary Draper-Helm-Eaves (also better off on their right side) May-Abdelkader-Maltby it's a cleary sandwich! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted October 30, 2009 (edited) it's a cleary sandwich! oops, typo - I fixed it - I meant Holmstrom on the RW, haha Edited October 30, 2009 by stevkrause Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fogworth 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2009 With the chemistry, I hate the idea of breaking up ZDH, even without Fil to center the 2nd line... we need at least one bonafide scoring line Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Holmstrom Leino-Cleary-Bertuzzi Draper-Helm-Williams May-Abdelkader-Eaves Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
