Still want to trade Osgood?

[Viking_Erection 1]

I never said get rid of him or anything that negative, and my post was in regards to this season only. He is absolutely amazing in the playoffs, but right now we really could use one of his playoff performances to actually improve in the standings being 10th right now isn't a great feeling. Please don't lump me with the Osgood haters...

Oh damn, did Bettmen move the playoffs from April to November 10th? Damn him!

Avs, Blue Jackets, Coyotes are all making the playoffs while Wings, Hawks and Ducks are not. This blows!

Get this, Wings are 3 points (with a game in hand) to move from 10th to 3rd place in the Conference standings.

Yesterday's loss doesn't bother me. The way the Wings played doesn't bother me. The team allowing 5 goals doesn't bother me. What does bother me is Wings' suffer from another injury. That's what bothers me.

Edited November 8, 2009 by Viking_Erection

[Guest CaliWingsNut]

Why not just bump one of the Osgood threads on page 2 or one from page 3? Why did he go to page 5 to get it? I have some land in Florida that I'll sell you.

/sarcasm

This post was about 5th on the 2nd page when I bumped it.... try again.

Edit: My post was within 48 hours of the last one before it. Again....

Edited November 8, 2009 by CaliWingsNut

[RedWingsRox 614]

I think we should make a pitch for Gustavsson, he only has a 1 year deal with Toronto.

Maybe we can give Burke Brad May for negotiation rights after the season and before July 1st.

Let our Swedes convince him to come and play for us.

[Doc Holiday 0]

Damn... ya got me... good one there.

Naw... I'm pretty much a troll on here all the time. Win, lose, whatever. Ask Carman, he prolly loves me by now.

Still don't get where your getting the "Ozzie Basher". I've never said anything really foul about him, dunno how you equate posting GA and Shots as bashing. Guess I must be so predictable cause your hearing what you want!

Exactly what was your intention for bumping this thread, if not to give Osgood a hard time for the loss?

[nc19 0]

what happens when osgood faces more than 15 shots in a game? he lets in five goals... i know hes a great playoff performer but hes not gonna get a chance to prove that if we keep playing like s***. I know all these losses, especially the one last night wasnt his fault entirely, but i'd breath easier if we had a goalie that can play both season and playoffs. The fact that some of you even mention that hes only a playoff goalie are admitting that hes not a complete player, why would detroit want anyone whos not a complete player. If Osgood was traded, though i know this will never happen, i wouldnt shed a tear.

[Doc Holiday 0]

what happens when osgood faces more than 15 shots in a game? he lets in five goals... i know hes a great playoff performer but hes not gonna get a chance to prove that if we keep playing like s***. I know all these losses, especially the one last night wasnt his fault entirely, but i'd breath easier if we had a goalie that can play both season and playoffs. The fact that some of you even mention that hes only a playoff goalie are admitting that hes not a complete player, why would detroit want anyone whos not a complete player. If Osgood was traded, though i know this will never happen, i wouldnt shed a tear.

You obviously missed the three games prior to this.

Amazing leap of logic you have, though.

[Pucks 66]

That's as unfunny as it was when you posted it in the GDT.

Sure I would've loved Ozzy to make a huge save on one of those, but all but the last one were pretty solid goals, not softies.

A huge save? No I would love him to make the f*cking routine ones. But he rarely does because he's woefully inept just like you and your eyesight.

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

A huge save? No I would love him to make the f*cking routine ones. But he rarely does because he's woefully inept just like you and your eyesight.

Which goals last night should have been routine saves?

You lurk until you check the game stats and see a high goal count, then jump into multiple threads with your cute little beachball picture.

I'm not some blind ozzy worshipper. He started awful, has had a few good games, and was average last night. I'm still betting you didn't watch the game.

back to the original thread, posting this after a couple good games by Ozzy is as pointless as creating one to get rid of him after a bad game.

[Pucks 66]

Which goals last night should have been routine saves?

You lurk until you check the game stats and see a high goal count, then jump into multiple threads with your cute little beachball picture.

I'm not some blind ozzy worshipper. He started awful, has had a few good games, and was average last night. I'm still betting you didn't watch the game.

back to the original thread, posting this after a couple good games by Ozzy is as pointless as creating one to get rid of him after a bad game.

You'd lose that bet. I've been watching the Wings since 91. I've only missed a handful of games since then. I watch hockey from around the league pretty much every night. I love the game. I don't base my thoughts off stats, never have. When your goalie gives up a goal on like the 1st or 2nd shot it deflates the whole team. They think "not again tonight" The team didn't want to battle back. They seem to be getting tired of it, and so am I.

Osgood wasn't the only one who sucked last night for sure. However his position is far to important from him to be playing this inconsistently. What's with all the turnovers by him this season handling the puck? He either get's in the way of his defense behind the net, or throw's it up along the sideboards for a turnover.

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

You'd lose that bet. I've been watching the Wings since 91. I've only missed a handful of games since then. I watch hockey from around the league pretty much every night. I love the game. I don't base my thoughts off stats, never have. When your goalie gives up a goal on like the 1st or 2nd shot it deflates the whole team. They think "not again tonight" The team didn't want to battle back. They seem to be getting tired of it, and so am I.

Osgood wasn't the only one who sucked last night for sure. However his position is far to important from him to be playing this inconsistently. What's with all the turnovers by him this season handling the puck? He either get's in the way of his defense behind the net, or throw's it up along the sideboards for a turnover.

Osgood has sucked in games this season, last night wasn't one of them. I'm not saying he was great, but in terms of responsibility i'd lump him in the middle of the pack.

That bad 1st goal, which I agree was a momentum changer because the Wings just had a great shift, was due to a bad pinch by Ericsson, Draper falling down trying to cover, and Lebda displaying a beautiful backwards screen, where he doesn't go down all the way to actually block the shot, he just sort of squats while skating backwards so he screens as much of the shooter as possible.

I would've loved for Ozzy to make that save, but I don't fault him for not making it since he could hardly see it.

I'm guessing the turnovers playing the puck are a symptom of the general disorganization that the whole team, including Ozzy, as shown. Lidstrom had an awful turnover with a pass right in front of his own net a couple games ago, then on the replay I saw it was a miscommunication with Helm. The puck control thing will probably sort itself out. I'm more worried about which Osgood will show up on a given night.

The Wings don't need game stealing saves, right now they need consistency to help right the ship.

[RedWings Gone Wild 6]

Oh damn, did Bettmen move the playoffs from April to November 10th? Damn him!

Avs, Blue Jackets, Coyotes are all making the playoffs while Wings, Hawks and Ducks are not. This blows!

Get this, Wings are 3 points (with a game in hand) to move from 10th to 3rd place in the Conference standings.

Yesterday's loss doesn't bother me. The way the Wings played doesn't bother me. The team allowing 5 goals doesn't bother me. What does bother me is Wings' suffer from another injury. That's what bothers me.

Us making the playoffs is not a guarantee... and the Ducks probably won't make it. They were a better team last year and they were still only the 8th seed, not like we're talking about a major drop off from them. I agree tho that Wills getting hurt is a big deal. With Franzen, Flip, and Williams out we've basically lost an entire scoring line for months. So, it should bother you that we let in 5 goals to a vastly inferior team, because with the exception of a 3 game effort, that's pretty much been the trend this season. And don't do what other LGW posters are doing and try to make the Leafs into some great team just because they beat us.

[Guest CaliWingsNut]

Exactly what was your intention for bumping this thread, if not to give Osgood a hard time for the loss?

My point was I wasn't "bashing" ozzy (at very least not to the extent viking kept accusing me wrongly of, then not backing up)...

There's a big difference between saying someone isn't preforming up to speed and needs to go, vs. he sucks, i hate him, beach balls, etc. I guess I'd like to think I'm being a bit more respectful. Instead, everyone was pissed off and just decided I'm a hater cause of my timing. Yet at least 3 people said they'd bump it after the next downer game.

[Viking_Erection 1]

Us making the playoffs is not a guarantee... and the Ducks probably won't make it. They were a better team last year and they were still only the 8th seed, not like we're talking about a major drop off from them. I agree tho that Wills getting hurt is a big deal. With Franzen, Flip, and Williams out we've basically lost an entire scoring line for months. So, it should bother you that we let in 5 goals to a vastly inferior team, because with the exception of a 3 game effort, that's pretty much been the trend this season. And don't do what other LGW posters are doing and try to make the Leafs into some great team just because they beat us.

Making the playoffs is never guaranteed. But it's only November and I'm not making any predictions who and who will not make the playoffs. I never said Leafs are some great team, but I do think they are better than their record indicates. I think they lost a lot of games due to goaltending. Toskala was bad, really bad. The Monster is proving to be good for them. Kessel just returned and you can clearly see his presence has sparked the team.

That said, the Red Wings as a whole didn't show up. They played lazy and played with no energy. They lost the game for themselves and the fall guy is Osgood like everytime the Wings lose. When the Red Wings can only scored 2 goals during the past 120 minutes in regulation, then I think there are bigger issues than goaltending that needs to be addressed.

How many games should the Red Wings win 1-0 for the remainder of the season?

Wings lost 144 goals and 314 points from 2008/09 season to 2009/10 season. But lets bash Osgood for not getting the shutout to win the game.

[Doc Holiday 0]

My point was I wasn't "bashing" ozzy (at very least not to the extent viking kept accusing me wrongly of, then not backing up)...

There's a big difference between saying someone isn't preforming up to speed and needs to go, vs. he sucks, i hate him, beach balls, etc. I guess I'd like to think I'm being a bit more respectful. Instead, everyone was pissed off and just decided I'm a hater cause of my timing. Yet at least 3 people said they'd bump it after the next downer game.

So you are saying that he isn't performing and needs to go.

And you decide to use the Leafs game (where he wasn't even as bad as a good chunk of the team) as the catalyst for you making that point.

Once again, this didn't need to be bumped based on the Leafs game. And if it hasn't been said yet, it is a single game, after the Wings had won three straight with less than 2 goals against on average. With Osgood in net.

Edited November 8, 2009 by Doc Holiday

[dicksmack 33]

The whole team sucked last night, including Osgood.

[SouthernWingsFan 854]

No, I don't wnat to trade Osgood.

I wouldn't mind trading threads like this whenever he ebbs/flows on both extremes of play though, considering that it happens to pretty much every team and every player throughout the course of a lengthy season. Plenty of eople are going to have hot and cold streaks or extremely good/clunker games all the time when a season is over 80 games.

[RedWingsRox 614]

No don't trade Osgood, save him for playoffs.

BUT let's get a 1/2 decent tandem for bad nights like Sat and keep Ozzie competitive. Perfect solution.

[nc19 0]

You obviously missed the three games prior to this.

Amazing leap of logic you have, though.

How is that a leap of logic? three games prior to that? what about the 12 games he's played this season.. 6-3-2 record, 2.77 GAA.., ranked 27th in the league for goalies right now. he's not been great buddy, and with our injuries and the way the rest of our team has been playing (not much better than osgood), we need a goalie to take us into the playoffs... we need to worry about getting in before we can worry about how he's going to play when we do

[Doc Holiday 0]

Double double.

Edited November 9, 2009 by Doc Holiday

[Doc Holiday 0]

Double.

Edited November 9, 2009 by Doc Holiday

[Doc Holiday 0]

How is that a leap of logic? three games prior to that? what about the 12 games he's played this season.. 6-3-2 record, 2.77 GAA.., ranked 27th in the league for goalies right now. he's not been great buddy, and with our injuries and the way the rest of our team has been playing (not much better than osgood), we need a goalie to take us into the playoffs... we need to worry about getting in before we can worry about how he's going to play when we do

It is a leap of logic because you use a game where everyone was bad to determine the worth of a goaltender who had two goals scored on him in the three games prior. Also where his team scored 3, 2 and 1 goals respectively in each of those three games.

Osgood, nor any goaltender you can find on the market, would have saved Detroit in the Toronto game based on the play of the players in front of him. One goal does not consitently win you hockey games and you are kidding yourself if you expect a goaltender making less than two million to have a 1.00 GAA or less every single game to bail out a defense and offense that is scoring at less than 2.00 GF on average (basing it on the last four).

Get real.

[CanadaBoy 151]

No don't trade Osgood, save him for playoffs.

BUT let's get a 1/2 decent tandem for bad nights like Sat and keep Ozzie competitive. Perfect solution.

I miss the Osgood and Hasek tandem

I agree that Holland should sign a goalie to put pressure on Ozzie.

[OsGOD 3]

So for every win this thread gets bumped to praise him and say all is well... and for every loss this thread gets bumped to diss on him and proclaim the season a bust!

my god what a bunch of bio-polar sheep!

glad we only have 70+ more bumps of this thread till the playoffs

Edited November 9, 2009 by OsGOD

[blankrap 9]

So for every win this thread gets bumped to praise him and say all is well... and for every loss this thread gets bumped to diss on him and proclaim the season a bust!

my god what a bunch of bio-polar sheep!

glad we only have 70+ more bumps of this thread till the playoffs

Osgood is pimp. Even when he lets in 5 or 6 goals. I remember a couple years ago when everyone wanted hasek out and put ozzy in. Now they want ozzy out to put some kid from gr in. Crazy kids. I will take 3 stanley cup rings and 10th all time games won in the NHL by a goalie over some kid from Grand Rapids any day.

Plus Osgood still looks like he is 10.