Glencross Suspended 3 Games for Hit

[Yzerfan1999 81]

Title says it all, here it the hit. When I was watching this Saturday night on CBC I immediatly thought it was a filthy play by Glencross. Its not the biggest of hits but definitely interference and definitely a shot to the head (whether thats legal or not).

P.S. When you watch the clip, listen to Kevin Weekes' comments.

You guys ever remember Drury playing tough or physical? Or with a real chip on his shoulder?

Please, I have always remembered the guy for being a bit of a *****. Don't know who Kevin is thinking about there....

[Zion 93]

Color Commentarifail.

[aw1340 0]

It was a dirty hit no question and yes Kevin Weekes is a pretty bad commentator

[CupChamps979802 35]

The awkwardness of the color commentary reminds me of Larry Murphy a few years ago haha

[ComradeWasabi 109]

Am I the only one who snickers every time Kevin Weekes is called the color commentator? I hope not, or else I'm going to look really racist.

In all honesty though, he's certainly not a very good colour guy. I find myself disagreeing with a majority of what he says whenever he opens his mouth.

[russianswede919293 95]

He has played through concussions...really i thought you were not medically cleared to play until all concussion symptoms were gone Mr. Weekes...

That being said...

Real dirty hit, bad luck for the rangers

[Rivalred 630]

Head-shot for sure... No reason for it...

[RedWings Gone Wild 6]

What's frustrating to me is that the league is so lame and ineffective that it almost always refuses to make an example out of a player unless it's a monster injury (ala Moore, tho Bert only got 20+ games for it). With all the head shots happening and the injuries all over the league, it's really baffling that the league isn't cracking down heavily on no-brainer suspensions like this one. 3 games? Big f-ing deal. Drury will probably be gone quite a big longer than 3 games. The NHL executives are just such huge panzies.

[Hockeytown0001 7,652]

What's frustrating to me is that the league is so lame and ineffective that it almost always refuses to make an example out of a player unless it's a monster injury (ala Moore, tho Bert only got 20+ games for it). With all the head shots happening and the injuries all over the league, it's really baffling that the league isn't cracking down heavily on no-brainer suspensions like this one. 3 games? Big f-ing deal. Drury will probably be gone quite a big longer than 3 games. The NHL executives are just such huge panzies.

And yet they put the term "thought police" to shame with their nonsense suspensions over players words.

[Donaldjr2448 43]

This is one of those respect hits! Drury was not in the play and in fact was behind the play, there is NO reason to hit him, let alone use your shoulder. I have been defending guys on here lately, but I cannot defend Glencross here!!

[ManLuv4Clears 7]

This is one of those respect hits! Drury was not in the play and in fact was behind the play, there is NO reason to hit him, let alone use your shoulder. I have been defending guys on here lately, but I cannot defend Glencross here!!

Yes, the respect between fellow players and their well-being has diminished greatly over the last few years. It doesn't appear to be taking any turns for the better either. I wonder what has happened in this league to make it go away?

[zettie85 106]

Yes, the respect between fellow players and their well-being has diminished greatly over the last few years. It doesn't appear to be taking any turns for the better either. I wonder what has happened in this league to make it go away?

This is one of thos respects hits indeed. It definitely is not comparable to any of the hits people have been arguing about on here. This was blatant interference and head shot. Respect should have been shown in this case seeing how Drury had not even touched the puck during the shift let alone the hit just being late. Booth cutting across centre and young Rangers defenceman turning to reverse the play and turning away from the hit can not be file under "lack of respect".

[Carman 387]

Well just an ordinary dirty hit, Glencross deserves his suspension nothing else to say really. I don't buy the whole "lack of respect" argument in the game. Moving along.

[adubs 8]

Dirty hit for sure. It looks like Glencross was expecting Drury to get a pass so he could knock him off the puck. He went high on the hit for sure so it's hard to defend as either way it would have been a shoulder to head hit.

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

Yes, the respect between fellow players and their well-being has diminished greatly over the last few years. It doesn't appear to be taking any turns for the better either. I wonder what has happened in this league to make it go away?

Agreed. Some people disagree with the lack of respect argument, or say that hockey is a tough game and it's always been this way. But I've been watching hockey since the early 80s and I sure don't remember the amount of headshots that we've seen already this season. The game has changed.

When you watch the hockey hits from the 80s, maybe a couple of them will be questionable headshot, and we're talking about a decade. Now there's one per week.

[Doc Holiday 0]

Agreed. Some people disagree with the lack of respect argument, or say that hockey is a tough game and it's always been this way. But I've been watching hockey since the early 80s and I sure don't remember the amount of headshots that we've seen already this season. The game has changed.

When you watch the hockey hits from the 80s, maybe a couple of them will be questionable headshot, and we're talking about a decade. Now there's one per week.

Perhaps it is the fact that the information superhighway magnifies every single hit of this nature to the degree that it seems like dirty hits are more apparent today?

Edited November 9, 2009 by Doc Holiday

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

Perhaps it is the fact that the information superhighway magnifies every single hit of this nature to the degree that it seems like dirty hits are more apparent today?

I thought of that. I'm sure Center Ice and Youtube have a lot to do with raising awareness about questionable hits. But that still doesn't account for all of it.

There's a lot more headshots now than there have been. That video you posted only confirms what I'm saying, as most of those arent elbows or shoulders to the head in the open ice like there has been lately. Guys gets sticks up during and after the hit (its not like I'm saying they were angels then) but that kind of stuff is a lot less likely to cause a concussion than a shoulder to the head of a guy who's not expecting to get hit. And those are supposed to be the best hits of a the decade. Someone could put together a highlight reel with more headshots from this season alone.

There wasn't youtube back then, but there was HNIC, and they sure weren't talking about hits to the head as a major problem in the 80s.

[Doc Holiday 0]

I thought of that. I'm sure Center Ice and Youtube have a lot to do with raising awareness about questionable hits. But that still doesn't account for all of it.

There's a lot more headshots now than there have been. That video you posted only confirms what I'm saying, as most of those arent elbows or shoulders to the head in the open ice like there has been lately. Guys gets sticks up during and after the hit (its not like I'm saying they were angels then) but that kind of stuff is a lot less likely to cause a concussion than a shoulder to the head of a guy who's not expecting to get hit. And those are supposed to be the best hits of a the decade. Someone could put together a highlight reel with more headshots from this season alone.

There wasn't youtube back then, but there was HNIC, and they sure weren't talking about hits to the head as a major problem in the 80s.

(For arguments sake I will not count the amount of high hits there are in that video, and there are a reasonable number)

And why should a shoulder check be illegal and why is a shoulder check now being considered dirty?

How is that a dirty hit? Is it possible that other factors could be involved? More players skating with their heads down? Bigger players? Bigger pads? Fast game? Don Cherry's magic 8 ball?

You cannot simply write off a situation as one event and assume that is the problem. There are more checks that are completely clean, even cleaner than the hits Stevens used to dish out, that cause head injuries (look at Stuart's hit on Umberger in the playoffs). Is that hit considered part of the lack of respect category? What exactly is lack of respect by definition in the National Hockey League?

There are many questions that have no clear answers that have to be answered before you even jump to the conclusion of "well there isn't any respect nowadays, lord knows how it happened but there isn't any respect."

[Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204]

It looks like he missed him. Bulls*** suspension, is this the KHL? Drury has a soft head (lol), alway has, dont you guys remember when Neil lit him up leading to the brawl a couple years ago? Ah, good times.

[Hack & Whack Rule! 160]

I gotta tell ya, it doesn't look like a head shot to me. Maybe I can't see it real well, but it looks shoulder to shoulder to me. I will agree that it was dirty because it was about a mile and a half behind the play, so, penalty, for sure. A suspension is a bit of a bulls*** call.

And to whoever keeps going along with the respect thing with all these hits: you don't really know what you are saying. The players out there respect each other. They are pushing limits, for sure, but trying to get a rise out of them is all they are doing. I'm not trying to start a flame war here, but you can't say what is going through the players minds. I realize I did just that, but it's done with a little common sense. All these players are in the same league, doing the same job. Maybe Glencross doesn't like Drury, and went too far. Who knows...

As for making an example of players, as someone suggests: that's just the world's worst idea. Enforce rules or don't enforce rules. No two hits are exactly the same, so how do you make an example out of one person? You'd be making an example out of everybody. You can make the argument that "a head shot is a head shot", but what about unintentional as opposed to intentional, or someone turning their back at the last second, or someone trying to duck a hit? Too many variables.

[Buppy 1,720]

...And to whoever keeps going along with the respect thing with all these hits: you don't really know what you are saying. The players out there respect each other. ....you can't say what is going through the players minds. I realize I did just that, but it's done with a little common sense. ....

Actions speak louder than words (or what you believe is common sense).

That's not to say that respect is the biggest problem, nor that players are deliberately malicious, more that they're just not thinking about the other players.

[Hack & Whack Rule! 160]

Actions speak louder than words (or what you believe is common sense).

That's not to say that respect is the biggest problem, nor that players are deliberately malicious, more that they're just not thinking about the other players.

But it's actions like these that get all the attention. How many times have you seen someone do something stupid (trip, high stick) and then go apologize to the other player? How many times have you seen that on highlight reels or a thread started about it? Granted, you don't see that a whole lot, but I have seen it. These s***ty hits are not the norm, just more fascinating for the viewers.

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

(For arguments sake I will not count the amount of high hits there are in that video, and there are a reasonable number)

And why should a shoulder check be illegal and why is a shoulder check now being considered dirty?

How is that a dirty hit? Is it possible that other factors could be involved? More players skating with their heads down? Bigger players? Bigger pads? Fast game? Don Cherry's magic 8 ball?

You cannot simply write off a situation as one event and assume that is the problem. There are more checks that are completely clean, even cleaner than the hits Stevens used to dish out, that cause head injuries (look at Stuart's hit on Umberger in the playoffs). Is that hit considered part of the lack of respect category? What exactly is lack of respect by definition in the National Hockey League?

There are many questions that have no clear answers that have to be answered before you even jump to the conclusion of "well there isn't any respect nowadays, lord knows how it happened but there isn't any respect."

Strange, I don't remember ever calling that a dirty hit. But how else could you argue if you didn't put words in my mouth to rail against?

Go ahead and count the high hits for sake of argument. There's plenty of hits where guys get their hands and sticks up, but very few blows to just the head.

I'm jumping to conclusions, but you put up a still frame of Kronwall's hit to try and make your point?? What does that one hit have to do with anything? As if Kronwall's one hit somehow proves anything about respect?

Of course there's going to be clean hits that lead to concussions. But you're ignoring all the hits that have happened in the last few seasons that are borderline, at best. Shots to the head where little contact, if any, is made to the body.

It's not that there isn't any respect across the board. But there's a breed of players out there who are willing to make these borderline hits time and time again. Guys who don't pull up when it's a questionable situation. Guys who pop a shoulder into someone's head as they skate by.

My main point was that there seems to be a hell of a lot more shots to the head (with little or no body contact) in recent seasons than there have been in all the years I've been watching hockey. My original statement was that "some people disagree with the lack of respect argument" or say that the game has always been this way. I'm saying it hasn't.

But since you love to argue more than actually talk hockey, you nitpick the "lack of respect" part and get into some pointless discussion that comes down mostly to semantics, and apparently a freeze frame of one of Kronwall's clean hits.

Edited November 10, 2009 by haroldsnepsts

[Doc Holiday 0]

Strange, I don't remember ever calling that a dirty hit. But how else could you argue if you didn't put words in my mouth to rail against?

My point is many clean hits have been dished out, but recently they have been causing many more different concussions.

Go ahead and count the high hits for sake of argument. There's plenty of hits where guys get their hands and sticks up, but very few blows to just the head.

I'm jumping to conclusions, but you put up a still frame of Kronwall's hit to try and make your point?? What does that one hit have to do with anything? As if Kronwall's one hit somehow proves anything about respect?

Of course there's going to be clean hits that lead to concussions. But you're ignoring all the hits that have happened in the last few seasons that are borderline, at best. Shots to the head where little contact, if any, is made to the body.

It's not that there isn't any respect across the board. But there's a breed of players out there who are willing to make these borderline hits time and time again. Guys who don't pull up when it's a questionable situation. Guys who pop a shoulder into someone's head as they skate by.

My main point was that there seems to be a hell of a lot more shots to the head (with little or no body contact) in recent seasons than there have been in all the years I've been watching hockey. My original statement was that "some people disagree with the lack of respect argument" or say that the game has always been this way. I'm saying it hasn't.

But since you love to argue more than actually talk hockey, you nitpick the "lack of respect" part and get into some pointless discussion that comes down mostly to semantics, and apparently a freeze frame of one of Kronwall's clean hits.

Wow harold. Defensive much? The entire issue I have with some people today is the fact that they bring up the fact that there is "lack of respect" in the league, and only cite increased concussions and head injuries as the evidence. That isn't evidence in and of itself. You talk about hits that there are more hits where the player gets very little of the players body. How many? One? Two? Richards hit? Sure. This hit? Absolutely. Phaneuf's hit in the preseason? No. Orr's hit on Lebda? No. The hit on Hedman a couple days back? No. Mike Brown's hit on Hudler back in the playoffs? No. Brad Stuart's hit on Umberger? No. How many hits with head injuries have been a direct result of blatant head shots?

Once again, you have a correlation, and that is a start. But that isn't magical evidence that the game has changed and players don't respect anyone anymore. You could argue that players aren't respecting the defenders by putting themselves in positions that allow them to be wrecked by solid hits.

[jollymania 162]

This is the first really badly ending headhunt we have seen this season and he only gets 3 games. If the dude doesn't have the puck and can't see you coming, you should not hit him in the head that hard no matter if it looks like he is going to get it or not. Now if he does a Ben Eager or MAx Talbot puss out move and tries to miss the puck to draw an interference call you have every right to deck em hard and high because they know you are coming for them.

Edited November 10, 2009 by jollymania