Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted November 22, 2009 Scrub #1 cheapshots Stevie Y, and this follows. God I loved the 90's, saw it on Youtube today and knew It had to be posted Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted November 22, 2009 Damn, that's the first I've ever seen Stevie do something like that. I like it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest micah Report post Posted November 22, 2009 Nice job here by Mac, Kocur and Yzerman. Mac and Kocur doing what should be expected of every single hockey player everywhere, enforcer or not - stick up for your teammates. Yzeraman, doing what should be expected of every person everywhere - stand up for yourself. This is one of the myriad of reasons he was a great leader. Men cannot be expected to respect a man who does not respect himself. Good on ya, Stevie! Dishonorable mention goes to Uwe Krupp. Dude was huge and strong, but was also a weak, gutless coward, always keeping himselfsafe from the big meanies. I'm glad he's gone, but I suspect he sent a letter to Franzen, sharing all his secrets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest micah Report post Posted November 22, 2009 Damn, that's the first I've ever seen Stevie do something like that. I like it! Stevie had a bit of a temper - he claims to have started his famous scrap with Kevin McGuire, he picked a fight with Cheli once (in responce to a gutless cheapshot by dirty Cheli), and he attempted to start at least two other fights that I recall. Yzerman was not a pacifist, not a quiet leader, and not a coward. He was not above getting dirty and starting a fight, even if he knew he would lose (McGuire). He was a great Captain. You can't be a great captain and be unwilling to do what's right or afraid to lose some blood. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yzerfan1999 81 Report post Posted November 22, 2009 As much as I like the Wings retaliation in that clip - this should be posted in a Stars forum. They completely got Yzerman off his game, and proceeded to kick the Wings ass that night. Good for Stevie for dropping them though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted November 22, 2009 I wish enforcer and skill forward didn't evolve to become polar opposites over the last decade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NGKEIB 32 Report post Posted November 22, 2009 Dishonorable mention goes to Uwe Krupp. Dude was huge and strong, but was also a weak, gutless coward, always keeping himselfsafe from the big meanies. I'm glad he's gone, but I suspect he sent a letter to Franzen, sharing all his secrets. I get where you're going with this... Franzén wasn't really injured in that Chicago game, he got hurt dogsled-racing (or whatever it was...). Also, Krupp was much bigger compared to the rest of the players in the league in his heyday than Franzén is now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b.shanafan14 733 Report post Posted November 22, 2009 God I miss Joey Kocur Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted November 22, 2009 I miss McCarty. Other than May or Lilja, who else do we have now that sticks up for their teammates getting hit cheaply like that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken 16 381 Report post Posted November 22, 2009 Damn, that's the first I've ever seen Stevie do something like that. I like it! Hard to believe that Yzerman didn't have perpetual angel wings and a halo... but it's true. He DID get mad once in a while. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hooon 1,089 Report post Posted November 22, 2009 i love it! Not to start a debate here, but what McCarty does right after the hit strikes me as very similar to the Bertuzzi incident, only with different results. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XxGoWingsxX 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2009 ahh i miss the good ole days where our captain would thrown down if need be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IceMunkee 15 Report post Posted November 22, 2009 Wow that was some great hockey regardless of the score! In today's game there would have been so many fines. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest micah Report post Posted November 22, 2009 I wish enforcer and skill forward didn't evolve to become polar opposites over the last decade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted November 22, 2009 i love it! Not to start a debate here, but what McCarty does right after the hit strikes me as very similar to the Bertuzzi incident, only with different results. It was more spontaneous. Bertuzzi's was more planned and deliberate. Also, Yzerman is a better captain than Naslund. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest micah Report post Posted November 23, 2009 I get where you're going with this... Franzén wasn't really injured in that Chicago game, he got hurt dogsled-racing (or whatever it was...). Also, Krupp was much bigger compared to the rest of the players in the league in his heyday than Franzén is now. Nope, I was talking about the way Franzen conducts himself on the ice when he's healthy - he's too much of a coward to stick up for himself or his teammates - unlike the much smaller, much more skilled steve Yzerman. Franzen is not the biggest guy in the league, but he is a big guy even by today's standards and is a couple inches taller and 20 or so pounds heavier than guys like say, Iginla. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Louisville 112 Report post Posted November 23, 2009 i love it! Not to start a debate here, but what McCarty does right after the hit strikes me as very similar to the Bertuzzi incident, only with different results. I thought the same thing, pretty crazy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Statts 4 Report post Posted November 23, 2009 "You're ******* dead!" D Mac said. Awesome Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted November 23, 2009 Yes and people say that players are losing respect more now then before Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted November 23, 2009 (edited) "You're ******* dead!" D Mac said. Awesome I wish that Leino said that to Laraque last night. Edited November 23, 2009 by GMRwings1983 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cjm502 165 Report post Posted November 23, 2009 God I miss Joey Kocur Toughest guy pound for pound that will EVER play hockey, and that is FACT. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWings Gone Wild 6 Report post Posted November 23, 2009 As much as I wanted to see Laraque get his ass handed to him by a Wing last night... I'd take goals as revenge any day, and retaliating would have potentially meant that someone would have been joining Laraque in the box. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted November 23, 2009 (edited) Toughest guy pound for pound that will EVER play hockey, and that is FACT. Tie Domi was tougher, as was Stan Jonathan. There were others, too. Kocur wasn't really small at all at 6'0. Especially for his era. I'm just curious. Where did you get your FACT from that Kocur was the toughest pound for pound? Edited November 23, 2009 by GMRwings1983 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragonballgtz 273 Report post Posted November 23, 2009 Tie Domi was tougher, as was Stan Jonathan. There were others, too. Kocur wasn't really small at all at 6'0. Especially for his era. I'm just curious. Where did you get your FACT from that Kocur was the toughest pound for pound? I personally think a prime Kocur would beat the s*** out of a prime Domi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted November 23, 2009 I personally think a prime Kocur would beat the s*** out of a prime Domi Maybe, but I'm saying Domi was better pound for pound. Kocur isn't generally considered one of the best pound for pound fighters, which is why I was surprised at the guy's post. Ironically, the two men never fought each other if I'm not mistaken. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
