Statts 4 Report post Posted December 3, 2009 Burish, Fraser, Brouwer, Bickell, Eager. Not to mention the Hawks have a stacked farm system. I would hope so. They have been a joke of a franchise for the better part of a decade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted December 3, 2009 Burish, Fraser, Brouwer, Bickell, Eager. Not to mention the Hawks have a stacked farm system. Brouwer is the only one you have signed. Granted it may be a good thing, because those players didn't do much when the Wing's destroyed you guys last playoffs. So you may be better off getting new blood. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miller Brew 0 Report post Posted December 3, 2009 I would hope so. They have been a joke of a franchise for the better part of a decade. After reading about their off-season circus, they still are a joke. That team seems to be filled with a lot of drama. Hawks have a 1 year window to win the cup this year and I'm not convinced they can pull it off. Then again, TB Lightning won the cup, so you can't rule them out either. Guess it really depends on how healthy they are and how injured other teams are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FIBS 35 Report post Posted December 3, 2009 After reading about their off-season circus, they still are a joke. That team seems to be filled with a lot of drama. Hawks have a 1 year window to win the cup this year and I'm not convinced they can pull it off. Then again, TB Lightning won the cup, so you can't rule them out either. Guess it really depends on how healthy they are and how injured other teams are. I feel like I should be paying to read your posts. Very entertaining. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted December 3, 2009 I feel like I should be paying to read your posts. Very entertaining. Brouwer is the only one you have signed. Granted it may be a good thing, because those players didn't do much when the Wing's destroyed you guys last playoffs. So you may be better off getting new blood. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cupforwings 138 Report post Posted December 3, 2009 After reading about their off-season circus, they still are a joke. That team seems to be filled with a lot of drama. Hawks have a 1 year window to win the cup this year and I'm not convinced they can pull it off. Then again, TB Lightning won the cup, so you can't rule them out either. Guess it really depends on how healthy they are and how injured other teams are. No, it depends on healthy the wings are come playoff time if the Hawks want a chance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FIBS 35 Report post Posted December 3, 2009 Brouwer is the only one you have signed. Granted it may be a good thing, because those players didn't do much when the Wing's destroyed you guys last playoffs. So you may be better off getting new blood. That's nice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted December 3, 2009 That's nice. About as nice as a Stanley Cup. Know what I mean? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FIBS 35 Report post Posted December 3, 2009 About as nice as a Stanley Cup. Know what I mean? What are you bragging about? You lost in the Finals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted December 3, 2009 What are you bragging about? You lost in the Finals. Stanley Cup finals are nice too. Know what I mean? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaCkaveli20 275 Report post Posted December 3, 2009 What are you bragging about? You lost in the Finals. You can't talk about the Red Wings losing in the finals lol. When was the last time the Hawks won the cup? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FIBS 35 Report post Posted December 3, 2009 Stanley Cup finals are nice too. Know what I mean? Not when you lose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken 16 381 Report post Posted December 3, 2009 (edited) What are you bragging about? You lost in the Finals. Considering we bounced the Hawks in the WCF's... I'd say we have every right to brag in this instance. Now shoo fly. Edited December 3, 2009 by Broken 16 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaman 713 Report post Posted December 3, 2009 (edited) How can they sign these guys with out being over next season? If the numbers are right this is what they are looking at right now PLAYER BONUS CAP HIT FORWARDS * Jonathan Toews — $6,300,000 * Patrick Kane — $6,300,000 Marian Hossa — $5,275,000 Patrick Sharp — $3,900,000 Dave Bolland — $3,375,000 Kris Versteeg — $3,083,333 Dustin Byfuglien — $3,000,000 Tomas Kopecky — $1,200,000 Troy Brouwer — $1,025,000 Dan Bertram ($65,000) $850,000 DEFENSEMEN Brian Campbell — $7,142,875 * Duncan Keith — $5,500,000 Brent Seabrook — $3,500,000 Cam Barker — $3,083,333 Brent Sopel — $2,333,333 GOALTENDERS Cristobal Huet — $5,625,000 BUYOUTS NONE LOST VIA REENTRY WAIVERS NONE CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS ROSTER SIZE 16 SALARY CAP $56,800,000 PAYROLL $61,492,874 BONUSES $65,000 CAP SPACE $-4,627,87 Thats with 5 players (min) needed, and assuming the cap doesn't go down. Edited December 3, 2009 by Shaman464 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Statts 4 Report post Posted December 3, 2009 (edited) After reading about their off-season circus, they still are a joke. That team seems to be filled with a lot of drama. Hawks have a 1 year window to win the cup this year and I'm not convinced they can pull it off. Then again, TB Lightning won the cup, so you can't rule them out either. Guess it really depends on how healthy they are and how injured other teams are. I disagree with the 1 year window. They have Kane, Toews, Hossa, Sharp, Seabrook, Keith locked up next year. That is a scary good core the hawks have. Who knows though, maybe the hawks gameplan is to win the cup in the next 2-3 years and sink into oblivion again for another 50 years. Edited December 3, 2009 by Statts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted December 3, 2009 Not when you lose. 1961. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hillbillywingsfan 792 Report post Posted December 3, 2009 1961. i couldn't see it that good...sorry bad eyes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaman 713 Report post Posted December 3, 2009 I disagree with the 1 year window. They have Kane, Toews, Hossa, Sharp, Seabrook, Keith locked up next year. That is a scary good core the hawks have. Who knows though, maybe the hawks gameplan is to win the cup in the next 2-3 years and sink into oblivion again for another 50 years. If (HUGE IF) they ship out Huet for a budget goalie, and with their defense not being the best in the league, I don't see how they can do well in the playoffs. Pittsburgh beat the Wings not only because of a good group of young forwards, they beat the Wings because Flower was able to make the big saves game 6 and 7. I see them having a lot more in common with Tampa than with Pittsburgh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FIBS 35 Report post Posted December 3, 2009 Considering we bounced the Hawks in the WCF's... I'd say we have every right to brag in this instance. Now shoo fly. OOOO Western Conference champs. Lost in the finals. At least you have a prayer of making it back there this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miller Brew 0 Report post Posted December 3, 2009 I just went through Hawks roster and I really don't see anyone of interest. Maybe Seabrook or Ladd. I can't believe they're paying Madden nearly $3 mil and Kopecky $1.2. It reinforces the fact that Wings got killer (almost obscene) deals on players like Draper ($1.5), Cleary ($2.8) and Franzen ($3.9). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaman 713 Report post Posted December 3, 2009 who can Chicago move to give them 4 million in cap space they need to not get hit by the tagging rule? No one will eat Huet or Campbell without taking atleast 90% of their cap hit back in return. So who do they move? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted December 3, 2009 OOOO Western Conference champs. Lost in the finals. At least you have a prayer of making it back there this year. The Hawks will be great in the regular season, but the Hossa curse will get you dirtbags. Plus, Huet sucks in the postseason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted December 3, 2009 who can Chicago move to give them 4 million in cap space they need to not get hit by the tagging rule? No one will eat Huet or Campbell without taking atleast 90% of their cap hit back in return. So who do they move? Sharp is making 3.9ish or something. But Fibs thinks the cap is getting increased to 70 million so they'll just sign everyone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cupforwings 138 Report post Posted December 3, 2009 OOOO Western Conference champs. Lost in the finals. At least you have a prayer of making it back there this year. Won in the finals in 97, 98, 02, and 08... and the last team that your mighty blackhawks will want to play is the HEALTHY wings in the first round... I will take Zetterberg, Datsyuk, Franzen, and Lidstrom over Kane, Toews, Hossa, and Keith anyday Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miller Brew 0 Report post Posted December 3, 2009 who can Chicago move to give them 4 million in cap space they need to not get hit by the tagging rule? No one will eat Huet or Campbell without taking atleast 90% of their cap hit back in return. So who do they move? Sharp and Burish or Seabrook and Burish... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites