Shaman 713 Report post Posted December 4, 2009 Both of them are subpar 7th d-men at best, neither give the wings better play than players like Janik in the AHL, they both seem to lose control of the puck, pinch in, do something bone headed at the wrong possible points of the game. Is it time for the Wings to ship them off/waive them/whatever and give other players a chance to show that they aren't worse than they are? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Statts 4 Report post Posted December 4, 2009 Both of them are subpar 7th d-men at best, neither give the wings better play than players like Janik in the AHL, they both seem to lose control of the puck, pinch in, do something bone headed at the wrong possible points of the game. Is it time for the Wings to ship them off/waive them/whatever and give other players a chance to show that they aren't worse than they are? Who are these other players? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zackisonfire 16 Report post Posted December 4, 2009 Lebda has his decent days once in a rarewhile and hes incredibly fast. But Meech is a terrible hockey player. Has been since day one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaman 713 Report post Posted December 4, 2009 Who are these other players? At this point Janik and Kindl both deserve some NHL time, Janik because hes done well in his past call ups and is a vet and Kindl since hes out of options next year and needs a chance to get a feel for the big show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mule 0 Report post Posted December 4, 2009 Just get rid of these clowns already. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egroen 384 Report post Posted December 4, 2009 (edited) I would rather have Janik up full-time for sure - Kindl still makes me nervous, but I am getting so sick of Lebda, and Meech has been a big disappointment. Edited December 4, 2009 by egroen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blueliner 69 Report post Posted December 4, 2009 they both seem to lose control of the puck, pinch in, do something bone headed at the wrong possible points of the game. Sounds more like Ericsson to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egroen 384 Report post Posted December 4, 2009 Sounds more like Ericsson to me. But Lebda and Meetch have little-to-no chance of getting better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaman 713 Report post Posted December 4, 2009 Sounds more like Ericsson to me. Watch Lebda, HE ALWAYS PINCHES. He did it 3 times this game alone, and in the past its caused odd man rushes that lead to good scoring chances and goals against. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
revmo10 3 Report post Posted December 4, 2009 I agree completely. Meech was absolutely horrendous tonight. He really doesn't deserve to be on the team. and now Ericsson's hurt....so where does that leave us? How come Lebda never gets hurt? Why only our good players? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yak19 303 Report post Posted December 4, 2009 JANIK > Lebda + Meech KINDL > Lebda + Meech Thread/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted December 4, 2009 The Wings can't afford to get rid of anybody now. They need warm bodies. But I wouldn't not shed a tear to see either of these two go when the Wings are healthy. Hopefully Kindl will earn a spot over these two very soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted December 4, 2009 I want Janik. He's an older veteran guy with smart defence and grit. Something we have not alot of on the backend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lovin Jiri Fischer 147 Report post Posted December 4, 2009 I agree completely. Meech was absolutely horrendous tonight. He really doesn't deserve to be on the team. and now Ericsson's hurt....so where does that leave us? How come Lebda never gets hurt? Why only our good players? Because you usually only get injured when you do s***. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
newfy 695 Report post Posted December 4, 2009 I really want to at least see Janik replacing one of these guys. He brings a liljaesque presence with a bit more toughness and with tme could improve to be a better Lilja(remember how bad Lilja was when he came here) Kindl maybe not quite yet but Janik I think should for sure be up by now. Meech was getting blown over if someone even breathed on him tonight, that wouldn't happen to Janik Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yak19 303 Report post Posted December 4, 2009 (edited) I want Janik. He's an older veteran guy with smart defence and grit. Something we have not alot of on the backend. Yep exactly and im talking right now against NJ. Kindl i can understand if they don't want to keep him up at the moment. But Janik needs to be in that lineup saturday over either Lebda or Meech. We need someone stable, stay-at-home, don't do to much, just make the safe play type guy and Janik is it. Edited December 4, 2009 by Yak19 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjlegend 155 Report post Posted December 4, 2009 Meech looked embarrassing out there. I felt bad for whoever was on the ice with him at any given time. The d-men were terrible tonight. Now would be a great time for a Brent Sutter-type practice where they learn to battle for the puck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted December 4, 2009 Sounds more like Ericsson to me. Yeah, his one turn-over a game just hamstrings us. We need more 5'9" 150lb guys who get out-muscled and embarrassed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted December 4, 2009 I really want to at least see Janik replacing one of these guys. He brings a liljaesque presence with a bit more toughness and with tme could improve to be a better Lilja(remember how bad Lilja was when he came here) Kindl maybe not quite yet but Janik I think should for sure be up by now. Meech was getting blown over if someone even breathed on him tonight, that wouldn't happen to Janik Remember that hit in the first period where the guy basically threw Meech 2 feet when Meech tried to battle him for the puck? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted December 4, 2009 In all seriousness, though, the problem here is that Holland can't afford to sacrifice the depth Lebda/Meech provide. Lebda will not be re-signed this summer unless he wants to play for the same salary and is ok being used as the #7 guy. Meech makes less than the current league minimum so it's hard to dump a guy who gives you that kind of cap advantage. I doubt Kindl will stay in Detroit. Once everyone is healthy he'd have to beat Lebda out for the #6 spot. BUT he'd be the 6th rookie on the team, which is something Holland will want to avoid at all costs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted December 4, 2009 Wow, I logged on here to see the score. On the main forums page, all I could see was the most recent topic: "Lebda and Meech." Right then and there I knew we lost, and sure enough... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellowknife Redwing 57 Report post Posted December 4, 2009 Wow, I logged on here to see the score. On the main forums page, all I could see was the most recent topic: "Lebda and Meech." Right then and there I knew we lost, and sure enough... Look at the bright side, at least the title wasn't "Lebda, Meech and Kindl" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted December 4, 2009 Look at the bright side, at least the title wasn't "Lebda, Meech and Kindl" Yeah, I really wish I could have seen Kindl play. I'm assuming he'll stay up since Ericsson is injured? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted December 4, 2009 Because you usually only get injured when you do s***. Jason Williams got injured. But generally speaking, that is true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted December 4, 2009 Ericsson got a rut that twisted his ankle too? Who the hell takes care of the ice at the Joe? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
