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12/20 GDT: Red Wings 0 at Blackhawks 3

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No s***, sherlock? THIS is all you know! You come here because you're juuust still feeling inferior enough to have to do it. I don't care WHO trolls, the reasons and motivations are always the same. It comes out of an inferiority complex about whatever/whoever you're a fan of. And instead of being happy amongs yourselves, it's more important for you to come and troll. How sad for you.

Or, it could be that I was bored and felt like coming on here and having a little fun. Dont take it so personally.

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EDIT: Also on the attendance subject....wonder why the Red Wings manage 99 percent of the time to sell out opposing arenas that otherwise would not have been sold out. Chicago doesn't do that.

It's because of all the bandwagon fans you have, thats why. The Redwings are like the Yankees of Hockey, so many "casual" fans jump on your bandwagon because of all of the success you have had. This is not taking a shot at Detroit, its not your fault, but lets be serious, Detroit has the most bandwagon fans worldwide than probably any other team in the sport.

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So you admit you are trolling.

This aint your forum. Enjoy your win on the Hawks board where you belong.

I come on here and post in threads that have to do with the Hawks. I dont disrespect anyone, or call anyone names, or start any threads myself talking trash. I just post in threads related to the Hawks.

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So you admit you are trolling.

This aint your forum. Enjoy your win on the Hawks board where you belong.

Hockey fans are always welcomed here, whatever their stripe. We've got fans of other teams on here that can attest to that. But imagine if Wings trolls flooded the Hawks' boards everytime we beat them.

It's because of all the bandwagon fans you have, thats why. The Redwings are like the Yankees of Hockey, so many "casual" fans jump on your bandwagon because of all of the success you have had. This is not taking a shot at Detroit, its not your fault, but lets be serious, Detroit has the most bandwagon fans worldwide than probably any other team in the sport.

:hysterical:

Attendance rankings:

2007

2 Red Wings

29 Blackhawks

2008

7 Red Wings

19 Blackhawks

2009

1 Blackhawks

3 Red Wings

All wearing their brand new Toews and Kane sweaters, no doubt.

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It's because of all the bandwagon fans you have, thats why. The Redwings are like the Yankees of Hockey, so many "casual" fans jump on your bandwagon because of all of the success you have had. This is not taking a shot at Detroit, its not your fault, but lets be serious, Detroit has the most bandwagon fans worldwide than probably any other team in the sport.

Chicago is the last team that is able to accuse anyone of having bandwagon fans. Wonder why every Red Wing fan I've talked to anywhere outside of Detroit is knowledgeable of the team, while the vast majority of Hawks fans I've seen or talked to are the kind that argue over whether it was Kane or Toews that led their team in scoring in 2006. It would be nice to have them up to the level of fans of Detroit who have been following hockey for more than 2 years, because it would certainly help the rivalry.

As for your excitement over beating Detroit, you just beat an AHL team, for the 1000th time. Of course Chicago was expected to win. Dare I say if Detroit had their full lineup and you were missing Kane, Campbell, Sharp, Hjalmarsson, and Versteeg in addition to Bolland and Burish, you'd say we shouldn't be happy over a win because of your depleted lineup. In fact, most of us would actually be a bit disappointed to be playing Chicago at a time where we SHOULD win, rather than having it be a great matchup.

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Hockey fans are always welcomed here, whatever their stripe. We've got fans of other teams on here that can attest to that. But imagine if Wings trolls flooded the Hawks' boards everytime we beat them.

:hysterical:

Attendance rankings:

2007

2 Red Wings

29 Blackhawks

2008

7 Red Wings

19 Blackhawks

2009

1 Blackhawks

3 Red Wings

All wearing their brand new Toews and Kane sweaters, no doubt.

I said worldwide. I am well aware there are a lot of Chicago fans who jumped opn the bandwagon now that we are good again. I am speaking of all the fans all over the world that help sellout games when Detroit is on the road. You have a dedicated fanbase, no doubt, but there are TONS of fans all over the world that just wear the jerseys because Detroit has been THE top team for so long.

I went to a Redwings game with a friend of mine who is a Redwings fan in Carolina a couple years ago, and the place was full of Redwing fans. Almost every Redwing fan he talked to didnt know the first thing about Hockey. Like I said, this isnt taking a shot at Redwing fans, because you do have a huge, dedicated fanbase. I was just responding to that person who bragged about selling out other teams arenas when the Redwings are in town. Its mainly because of all the bandwagon fans all over the world.

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I come on here and post in threads that have to do with the Hawks. I dont disrespect anyone, or call anyone names, or start any threads myself talking trash. I just post in threads related to the Hawks.

And talk trash to Wings fans. On a GDT where emotions will run high after a loss.

Not smart.

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i can't believe how many of you allowed yourselves to be trolled

Uninspired effort, bad goaltending by Ozzie. If we play like we did against the Stars the previous game then we have a chance to win. If you have a depleted lineup already and then don't even show up well your not going to be very successful.

Bounce back Wednesday.

GO WINGS!

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I said worldwide. I am well aware there are a lot of Chicago fans who jumped opn the bandwagon now that we are good again. I am speaking of all the fans all over the world that help sellout games when Detroit is on the road. You have a dedicated fanbase, no doubt, but there are TONS of fans all over the world that just wear the jerseys because Detroit has been THE top team for so long.

I went to a Redwings game with a friend of mine who is a Redwings fan in Carolina a couple years ago, and the place was full of Redwing fans. Almost every Redwing fan he talked to didnt know the first thing about Hockey. Like I said, this isnt taking a shot at Redwing fans, because you do have a huge, dedicated fanbase. I was just responding to that person who bragged about selling out other teams arenas when the Redwings are in town. Its mainly because of all the bandwagon fans all over the world.

That's a nice anecdotal story. (It's Red Wings btw way, not Redwings. We didn't mess with our team name like you did yours.) But the reason there are so many Wings fans in buildings around the league, particularly in places like Florida, Carolina, Phoenix, Los Angeles, Anaheim, and San Jose, is because people have moved to those regions from Detroit and the rest of Michigan for jobs but have stayed loyal to the team. I know the bandwagon fan story is a popular one and is easy to latch onto for opposing fans, and yes there are a few bandwagoners around the league, but the story as a whole is just not true.

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It's because of all the bandwagon fans you have, thats why. The Redwings are like the Yankees of Hockey, so many "casual" fans jump on your bandwagon because of all of the success you have had. This is not taking a shot at Detroit, its not your fault, but lets be serious, Detroit has the most bandwagon fans worldwide than probably any other team in the sport.

I tend not to differentiate the silly Wings bandwagon fans from the Johnny-come-lately / "Detroit Sucks" Hawks fans. Doubt either would be in it for the long run to support their team. It's a given that any popular team will gain those casual fans you speak of, however, my entire dad's side of the family are Wings fans, in CA, FL, and of course, some still live in MI, and as iterated, it has to do with more people moving from the area and retaining being a Wings fan. This isn't mere anecdotal nonsense you troll your boat with, but something you will find highly prominent throughout the country, especially warmer climates. I come across Wings fans while shopping at the friggen store, when I'm sporting my jerseys, and most tell me about having to move from the area.

I've seen some intelligent Hawk posters come here, but you've pretty much sealed that they're way out of your league and simply don't know what in the wide world of hell you're talking about.

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"As for your excitement over beating Detroit, you just beat an AHL team, for the 1000th time. Of course Chicago was expected to win. Dare I say if Detroit had their full lineup and you were missing Kane, Campbell, Sharp, Hjalmarsson, and Versteeg in addition to Bolland and Burish, you'd say we shouldn't be happy over a win because of your depleted lineup. In fact, most of us would actually be a bit disappointed to be playing Chicago at a time where we SHOULD win, rather than having it be a great matchup."

Quit bitching about the Red Wings fielding an AHL team and thats why the hawks won. Its a poor argument considering the first time they met this season it was a full Detroit lineup playing a shorthanded hawks lineup. A lineup that is still 1st or 2nd youngest team in the league and at the time had poorous goaltending. Score was a whopping 3-2

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"As for your excitement over beating Detroit, you just beat an AHL team, for the 1000th time. Of course Chicago was expected to win. Dare I say if Detroit had their full lineup and you were missing Kane, Campbell, Sharp, Hjalmarsson, and Versteeg in addition to Bolland and Burish, you'd say we shouldn't be happy over a win because of your depleted lineup. In fact, most of us would actually be a bit disappointed to be playing Chicago at a time where we SHOULD win, rather than having it be a great matchup."

Quit bitching about the Red Wings fielding an AHL team and thats why the hawks won. Its a poor argument considering the first time they met this season it was a full Detroit lineup playing a shorthanded hawks lineup. A lineup that is still 1st or 2nd youngest team in the league and at the time had poorous goaltending. Score was a whopping 3-2

So your point is that Detroit having a healthy lineup wouldn't matter because we won the first match when he had a healthy lineup. Terrific point. Join a debate team. :lol:

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"As for your excitement over beating Detroit, you just beat an AHL team, for the 1000th time. Of course Chicago was expected to win. Dare I say if Detroit had their full lineup and you were missing Kane, Campbell, Sharp, Hjalmarsson, and Versteeg in addition to Bolland and Burish, you'd say we shouldn't be happy over a win because of your depleted lineup. In fact, most of us would actually be a bit disappointed to be playing Chicago at a time where we SHOULD win, rather than having it be a great matchup."

Quit bitching about the Red Wings fielding an AHL team and thats why the hawks won. Its a poor argument considering the first time they met this season it was a full Detroit lineup playing a shorthanded hawks lineup. A lineup that is still 1st or 2nd youngest team in the league and at the time had poorous goaltending. Score was a whopping 3-2

yeah its like every loss the black cawks have go to their board and see what they are saying. it reminds me so much of the ducks boards. its always someone elses fault not their team. how much longer are you going to post in a GDT of the wings? what a D-BAG move on your part. You know what happens when you say the crap that you are saying in a GDT that we lost in. But you still do it. go back to your board and enjoy your win. stop starting stuff in ours.

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Or, it could be that I was bored and felt like coming on here and having a little fun. Dont take it so personally.

No, it was none of the above. "Have a little fun"? But you're not a troll. Nawww....

You came here because your team still hasn't proven enough to you. You "had" to come here to either help make your team look better or try to make our team look worse. Or both. You are not sitting easy with your team's accomplishments. Why else would you feel the need to come here? Why not just enjoy their win for the win's sake? Because you can't let it alone. Byebye. Again.

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If Chicago Blackhawk fans want use this game to measure their team's overall talent then lets use it to measure the St.Louis Blues talent too.

Blues are better against the Wings than the Blackhawks. So when healthy, Blues are worthy contenders, Blackhawks are not. Here's why:

Blackhawks shutout Wings without our best shutdown foward and one of the best players in the League, Zetterberg. They beat us after back-2-back road games on the road. And the beat us with our coldest goaltender who hasn't played very many games this year. and they beat us without our top rookie defencemen in Ericsson.

The Blues, however, shut us out on home ice after we had 3 days rest. The Blues shut us out with Zetterberg and Ericsson both in the lineup and they beat us with our hottest goalie in net.

Clearly the Blues are going to be worthy rivals for the Red Wings when healthy, not the Blackhawks. This is using the Chicago Blackhawks mentality, of course.

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yeah its like every loss the black cawks have go to their board and see what they are saying. it reminds me so much of the ducks boards. its always someone elses fault not their team. how much longer are you going to post in a GDT of the wings? what a D-BAG move on your part. You know what happens when you say the crap that you are saying in a GDT that we lost in. But you still do it. go back to your board and enjoy your win. stop starting stuff in ours.

#1- Ive been a wings fan for 25 years.

#2- I look at their boards. Not CBH however. It is full of newbies who werent around during the teams toughest years. Seems to me real hawks fans ***** even when their team is winning. This is supposed to be a cup run year for them and most true hawks fans realize how much room for improvement they still need if they are going to win a cup. They are happy they have locked up their core, much like the wings have done for years, but cant wait to get rid of the horrendous contracts that were given to Huet and Campbell. However, even if they have a third of their roster gone next year, losing Eager, Kopecky, Fraser, Sopel, Hendry or even Barker or Byfuglien wont be much of a loss. They have guys on the farm who are better, cheaper and play harder.

Im just simply amazed at the double standards around here with fellow wings fans. The wings arent the only team in the league with injury problems. In fact, there are a few teams worse off then us. The difference has been that the wings have actually played well, as opposed to Edmonton, Montreal, Minnesota etc.

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On this board there aren't many bandwaggoners i think... it's either people from detroit or michigan or people that have lived or have a connection with detroit or michigan and people from europe who likes them because they have alot of euros and (used tio) play a skilled puck-possesion game much like euro teams do...so it's not like people just jumps the ship and support detroit for no reason everyone has some kind of bond and/or connection with the team

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#1- Ive been a wings fan for 25 years.

#2- I look at their boards. Not CBH however. It is full of newbies who werent around during the teams toughest years. Seems to me real hawks fans ***** even when their team is winning. This is supposed to be a cup run year for them and most true hawks fans realize how much room for improvement they still need if they are going to win a cup. They are happy they have locked up their core, much like the wings have done for years, but cant wait to get rid of the horrendous contracts that were given to Huet and Campbell. However, even if they have a third of their roster gone next year, losing Eager, Kopecky, Fraser, Sopel, Hendry or even Barker or Byfuglien wont be much of a loss. They have guys on the farm who are better, cheaper and play harder.

Im just simply amazed at the double standards around here with fellow wings fans. The wings arent the only team in the league with injury problems. In fact, there are a few teams worse off then us. The difference has been that the wings have actually played well, as opposed to Edmonton, Montreal, Minnesota etc.

And here I thought that 'RWS' in your handle stood for 'Red Wings Suck'...

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And here I thought that 'RWS' in your handle stood for 'Red Wings Suck'...

Also I would find it surprising he joined the forums less than a week after the Wings played the Hawks at the Joe, and hadn't posted till this game and in no other threads than this one.

How strange.

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#1- Ive been a wings fan for 25 years.

#2- I look at their boards. Not CBH however. It is full of newbies who werent around during the teams toughest years. Seems to me real hawks fans ***** even when their team is winning. This is supposed to be a cup run year for them and most true hawks fans realize how much room for improvement they still need if they are going to win a cup. They are happy they have locked up their core, much like the wings have done for years, but cant wait to get rid of the horrendous contracts that were given to Huet and Campbell. However, even if they have a third of their roster gone next year, losing Eager, Kopecky, Fraser, Sopel, Hendry or even Barker or Byfuglien wont be much of a loss. They have guys on the farm who are better, cheaper and play harder.

Im just simply amazed at the double standards around here with fellow wings fans. The wings arent the only team in the league with injury problems. In fact, there are a few teams worse off then us. The difference has been that the wings have actually played well, as opposed to Edmonton, Montreal, Minnesota etc.

WOW see how you had me fooled even...that shows you how bad you have been. just chill out a little geez. wings fans can be trolls too....i learn something new every day.

and you can only go so far with as many ahl playeres as we have right now.

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Quit bitching about the Red Wings fielding an AHL team and thats why the hawks won. Its a poor argument considering the first time they met this season it was a full Detroit lineup playing a shorthanded hawks lineup. A lineup that is still 1st or 2nd youngest team in the league and at the time had poorous goaltending. Score was a whopping 3-2

The Wings beat a Hawks team that was without Hossa.

The Hawks beat a Wings team without Zetterberg, Franzen, Kronwall, Filppula, Cleary, Ericsson, and Williams.

That's a bit of a difference in talent lost in those two games.

Yes, the Wings played a pretty uninspired game. I would too, had I left Dallas the day before and had to play one of the best teams in the league the very next day in their own house.

Your argument doesn't make any sense. How does is not matter that the Wings essentially brought an AHL team plus Lidstrom, Rafalski, Osgood, and Datsyuk to play against one of the best teams in the league? It's pretty easy to blame the loss on that and only on that, considering when the Wings were healthy, we beat the Hawks.

BTW, it's porous, not poorous.

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#1- Ive been a wings fan for 25 years.

#2- I look at their boards. Not CBH however. It is full of newbies who werent around during the teams toughest years. Seems to me real hawks fans ***** even when their team is winning. This is supposed to be a cup run year for them and most true hawks fans realize how much room for improvement they still need if they are going to win a cup. They are happy they have locked up their core, much like the wings have done for years, but cant wait to get rid of the horrendous contracts that were given to Huet and Campbell. However, even if they have a third of their roster gone next year, losing Eager, Kopecky, Fraser, Sopel, Hendry or even Barker or Byfuglien wont be much of a loss. They have guys on the farm who are better, cheaper and play harder.

Im just simply amazed at the double standards around here with fellow wings fans. The wings arent the only team in the league with injury problems. In fact, there are a few teams worse off then us. The difference has been that the wings have actually played well, as opposed to Edmonton, Montreal, Minnesota etc.

Sorry, but I'm ignorant as to who is in a worse position injury-wise than Detroit. Who exactly were you referring to? Also, I don't want to come of as a pompous fan who blames everything on factors outside of the Wings' control; actually I believe that many of the games that we lost were completely winnable despite being riddled with key injuries (including the game against the Hawks) but a team can only go so far with limited talent and experience. Blackhawks fans should know that above anyone else.

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This thread has turned into a worthless pissing match.

Fact is this is a depleted Detroit team that will have a hell of a time competing with the other elites until they get more healthy. The Wings offensive attack was woeful as the chances were few and far between. Part of this was attributable to the Hawks D and puck possession, while the rest can be attributed to the anemic lineup they put on the ice. Any fan on either said that can't acknowledge either of these two facts is nothign but a homer. Blackhawkdown and Miller Brew are the 2 that come to mind.

Earlier in the year the Hawk's goaltending and defense was wanting as they were way too porous. But since the first 2-3 weeks the D has been stellar most nights. The Hawks are the youngest team in the league and we're finally seeing the benefits of cohesion as they are truly playing as a unit. Guys like Kane, Hjalmarsson, and Keith are showing that they're studs, while most of the role players are doing their jobs as well. Some of the ignorant fans here like to discount (i emphasize some as most recognize this is a team to contend with) the Hawks status as legit cup contenders, but so far this team has done nothing to discredit the hype. They're a good team.

The same can be said about your Red Wings. They have shown time and time again that they are not only the best, but they are able to overcome slow starts and adversity. It really is amazing how many points you have right now considering the injuries and lackluster goaltending you get on most nights. All but the most retarded Hawk fans know that Detroit will be a force. They are also my most feared opponent as they tend to walk all over the Hawks when given any kind of room in the offensive zone. You'll be pretty scary once healthy.

As for all of this bandwagon crap BHD was right about one thing: you guys probably have the most bandwagon fans. But every Hawk fan should be wishing they had the most bandwagon fans as it illustrates one thing: you are consistently winning. When you are a Stanley Cup contender for most of the last 10-15 you're going to have a lot of folks hop on the bandwagon. Likewise when run into the ground for 10-15 years you're going to lose a lot of fans - even hardcores - as the treatment of fans and his team under Dollar Bill was enought to make a lot of people crack. Now that the Hawks are winning again their are a LOT of people hopping on board. I'm sure the attendance figures from the Dead Things era of the 80s getting into the competetive era of the 90s would show a similar ascension. Some of those are long time fans that have been reinvigorated, some are new fans that will be for life, while others are the bandwagon fans being talked about here that will be gone once the Hawks aren't the hottest thing in town. Those are just the realities of winning.

IMO pretty much all of the fans here are of the longterm variety and are extremely knowledgable about their team. A few are blatant homers, though that is to be expected on most every board. Entire fanbases shouldn't be characterized based on the idiotic few - like BHD - that go to a rival board to start s*** and be a total jackass. Guys like him aren't even worth your time.

Hopefully the Wings will be completely healthy for the last 2-3 games of the season series so that we can REALLY see how each team stack up against each other. My guess is that it will be a back and forth dogfight.

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