Miller Brew 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2010 Do you think the 'uncertainty' of when players return is being used for Babcocks advantage? I mean Cleary, for example, had a couple of 'rumors' when he is suppose to return, but now it's bee changed for the 3rd or the 6th. This could throw off other coaches 'game plan' if Cleary (or Zetterberg or both) miraculously become a game time decision 5 minutes before puck drop. That could really throw off the oppositions coach and the entire team for that matter. It would make me happy if this happens. Babcock's chess game. Can Babcock do this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted January 2, 2010 i wouldn't be surprised if he was because babcock IS a genius, but i don't really get that impression (maybe thats why it works). regardless, any player in their first game back are not expected to have a massive impact on the game anyways, we saw that with filppula who had an alright performance in his first game back. but if anyone is crafty enough to do it, it would be babcock. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EuroTwin 240 Report post Posted January 2, 2010 (edited) Babs is more evil than he appears at first glance. This could be all part of his plan to take over the world. Seriously though, I think he's using every bit of creative thinking he can when it comes to these injuries. Whether that means being dodgy about when players are coming back or being evasive about where they are actually injured. Edited January 2, 2010 by EuroTwin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SweWings 45 Report post Posted January 2, 2010 Babs is more evil than he appears at first glance. This could be all part of his plan to take over the world. Seriously though, I think he's using every bit of creative thinking he can when it comes to these injuries. Whether that means being dodgy about when players are coming back or being evasive about where they are actually injured. That really is one scare looking man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MidMichSteve 1,115 Report post Posted January 2, 2010 i wouldn't be surprised if he was because babcock IS a genius He's the coach of the decade! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dat's sick 1,002 Report post Posted January 2, 2010 Honestly I really doubt that. Maybe in the playoffs they would do those kinds of things, but I think they're being honest about it at this point. Injuries and recovery from them aren't an exact science. It's hard to put a date on when someone returns. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 24 Report post Posted January 2, 2010 (edited) I really think you are looking into this WAY to much. Think about it. We play the Sharks and we surprise them by adding Cleary to the lineup just before puck drop!! OMG WHAT WILL THE SHARKS DO?? Dan Cleary is playing!! They need to change their lineup now, but IT"S TOO LATE, OMG!!! I mean come on. At the very most they make a change to their lines. Big woop. Edited January 2, 2010 by rage Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KrazyGangsta 79 Report post Posted January 2, 2010 To be honnest the other teams don't actually care. If it was the playoffs then that's a different story but in the season opposing teams won't really bother changing game plans for one player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marty Barry 230 Report post Posted January 2, 2010 It's all Babs now, and I don't underestimate his hockey prowess at all. But I wish we still had Bowman in the mix for mentorship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puckloo39 5,686 Report post Posted January 2, 2010 I think most other teams come into a game with the Wings right now with every expectation of winning, due to all the injuries. All 29 other teams love this, and wish the rest of our guys were in the infirmary, as well. Babcock is doing a great job with the hand he's been dealt this season, IMO. It's hard to coach any better than he has, with the quasi-team he ices on a given night. Hopefully, enough Wings will return, playing at something closer to form in time to make the playoffs and to make a good showing in the post-season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miller Brew 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2010 I really think you are looking into this WAY to much. Think about it. We play the Sharks and we surprise them by adding Cleary to the lineup just before puck drop!! OMG WHAT WILL THE SHARKS DO?? Dan Cleary is playing!! They need to change their lineup now, but IT"S TOO LATE, OMG!!! I mean come on. At the very most they make a change to their lines. Big woop. Teams don't scout other teams to try to find an advantage to win? You are telling me these lines below are, to any opposition NHL coach, no significant impact or cause for concern from our current line-up? Bertuzzi-Datsyuk-Holmstrom Cleary-Zetterberg-Abdelkader Ritola-Filppula-Leino Draper-Helm-Eaves vs Bertuzzi-Datsyuk-Holmstrom Ritola-Filppula-Miller Draper-Helm-Eaves Leino-Abdelkader-Maltby Filppula on the 3rd line just became one hell of a 3rd line and our 4th line just became an energy line that can score -- and would playing against Coyote's 4th line Bissonnette-Winnik-Korpikoski -- but their coach doesn't care? Don't you think a coach would want to prepare their 4th line and 3rd line of defense for a HELM and his breakaways? I seriously hope the opposition coach thinks like you...even though he probably won't have a coaching job very long. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z and D for the C 712 Report post Posted January 2, 2010 Cleary wouldn't make a big difference, but Zetterberg would. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cjm502 165 Report post Posted January 2, 2010 Even if this were the case, it shouldn't make a difference. The other teams should be playing their best if we have missing players or not, so what does it matter? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted January 2, 2010 I just hope we can stay around .500 on this road trip and don't have anyone else injured. Our players take too long to heal traditionally, so I don't think we have any real advantage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holliday 1,888 Report post Posted January 2, 2010 I just hope we can stay around .500 on this road trip and don't have anyone else injured. Our players take too long to heal traditionally, so I don't think we have any real advantage. Wasn't Detroit 7-5-something in December? They are at least off to a good start so far. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 24 Report post Posted January 2, 2010 (edited) Teams don't scout other teams to try to find an advantage to win? You are telling me these lines below are, to any opposition NHL coach, no significant impact or cause for concern from our current line-up? Bertuzzi-Datsyuk-Holmstrom Cleary-Zetterberg-Abdelkader Ritola-Filppula-Leino Draper-Helm-Eaves vs Bertuzzi-Datsyuk-Holmstrom Ritola-Filppula-Miller Draper-Helm-Eaves Leino-Abdelkader-Maltby Filppula on the 3rd line just became one hell of a 3rd line and our 4th line just became an energy line that can score -- and would playing against Coyote's 4th line Bissonnette-Winnik-Korpikoski -- but their coach doesn't care? Don't you think a coach would want to prepare their 4th line and 3rd line of defense for a HELM and his breakaways? I seriously hope the opposition coach thinks like you...even though he probably won't have a coaching job very long. Again, you're making mountains out of molehills my friend. And it sounds a little too homerish. I can defeintly tell you're a die hard Wings fan. So what if we had Cleary back for a game. What do you expect the Coyotes to do? Freak out and give up? That's what it sounds like. You keep saying look at the difference in lines, but big woop. If anything it's just a more competitive game and maybe the Coyotes change their lines to try to match up better against our lines. You are making it to sound like Babs is saying to himself, "Oh, I'll sneak these 2 guys in who the Coyotes think are injured at the very last minute and that will disrupt their gameplan SO much we are bound to win! ahahahaha! I will then rule the World!!" It just doesn't work like that. Teams know if a player is playing or not by game day for the most part. This isn't the NFL! And even if it is a surprise, then big woop. It really doesn't matter as much as you think or make it sound. Edited January 2, 2010 by rage Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 24 Report post Posted January 2, 2010 Even if this were the case, it shouldn't make a difference. The other teams should be playing their best if we have missing players or not, so what does it matter? Exactly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
