Worst Red Wings trade of the Decade?

[Tane 17]

Just reading the Internet, And Came across again what we gave up for Robert Lang. Tomas Fleischmann, a 1st rounder in 04 (Mike Green) and a 4th rounder in 06 (luke Lynes)

Basically we got Lang and gave up the Highest Scoring D-man since Paul Coffey, and A good young 20-30 goal scorer.

Possibly the Worst Trade since the Federko trade?

I'm still glad we did it. We gave up a prospect and a late first round for who was, at the time one of the leading scorers in the NHL. I think it was a good trade that just ended horribly.

You could also argue, there's no guarentee that we would have taken Green, but that's who that pick ended up being. Maybe it's just the BEST trade made by the Caps? Was there a worse trade Since Federko than this?

(I'd have to give number 2 to Cheveldae and Drake for Essensa and Bautin)

Edit : Worst Red Wings trade this decade

Edited January 10, 2010 by Tane

[hckypete96 3]

Just reading the Internet, And Came across again what we gave up for Robert Lang. Tomas Fleischmann, a 1st rounder in 04 (Mike Green) and a 4th rounder in 06 (luke Lynes)

Basically we got Lang and gave up the Highest Scoring D-man since Paul Coffey, and A good young 20-30 goal scorer.

Possibly the Worst Trade since the Federko trade?

I'm still glad we did it. We gave up a prospect and a late first round for who was, at the time one of the leading scorers in the NHL. I think it was a good trade that just ended horribly.

You could also argue, there's no guarentee that we would have taken Green, but that's who that pick ended up being. Maybe it's just the BEST trade made by the Caps? Was there a worse trade Since Federko than this?

(I'd have to give number 2 to Cheveldae and Drake for Essensa and Bautin)

lmao this isn't even close to worst trade of the decade! prolly luongo for bertuzzi.... if not that then the joe thornton trade

[Marty Barry 230]

No trade is as bad as a Uwe Krupp signing.

[Tane 17]

Sorry, I meant worst Red Wings Trade

And I meant Trade, not signings. Yeah, Krupp was Brutal, as was Whitney, Hatcher and Robitaille (4.5 mil for 11 goals and 4th line duties in his 2nd year)

[TheOwl 77]

Mike Milbury made the worst trade of the decade:

Yashin to the NYI, for Chara and the second overall pick that year (turned out to be Spezza).

OR!

Luongo and Olli Jokinen to Florida for Mark Parrish and Oleg Kvasha.

Which is worst? He also drafted DiPetro when he could of chosen Gaborik or Heatley.

Mike Milbury is the worst GM of the last decade. No contest.

[Rice 42]

Hmm... yeah that was probably the worst one. Not horrible but not good either.

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

hmm. it's hard to even think of red wings trades for the last decade, even though Holland doesn't make many.

Cory Cross for a 4th rounder? That could've been the next Ericsson!

[Cicada 4]

yes, it seems bad now, but how would we know that that pick would turn into mike green?

and if we had the pick would we have chosen him? unlikely... if teams knew how good he would be he would have gone a lot higher than 29th (i think it was)..

in terms of actual like for like worst trade, i still think Matthias for Bertuzzi was a bad move. i think Matthias would be a lot better than he currently is if he stayed in our system, and an injured Bertuzzi was no good for us at all really during that play off run...

[Jedi 1,865]

I edited the thread title based on the OP's edit.

And, to be fair, you can't really think that we gave up Mike Green in the Lang trade, because there's no way to know who we would have drafted that year with that pick. Green could have very well been passed over by Detroit.

[Barrie 900]

I find it difficult to criticize a team that's back to back Western Conference Champions and 2008 Stanley Cup Champions. Realistically how much better would we be?

Lang and Bertuzzi helped us advance to the 2007 Western Conference Finals, which gave guys like Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Kronwall, etc. the experience they needed to help win the 2008 Stanley Cup.

[thedisappearer 291]

Draper for a dollar. That coulda those new spicy chicken nuggets at Wendy's...

[Shaman 713]

there havent been any really horrible trades in the last few years, some that werent perfect, but none that i can think of that are just plain bad.

[MotorCityMadness 388]

Though it is just outside the decade qualification, the worst I think was when the Wings acquired Wendel Clark, Bill Ranford, and Ulf Samuelsson. Looked good when it happened, but turned bad since the team did not get past the 2nd round of the playoffs that year

[akustyk 84]

Lang

then Bertuzzi

Lang trade looked good when it happened but eventually was a nightmare.

Bertuzzi didn't came with big expectation but he also didn't excel a lot.

now Matthias and draft pick did hurt us.

honorable mention (though, not a trade): Kenny letting Hasek unretire and create

Hasek/Cujo/Legace controversy

[b.shanafan14 733]

Its too easy to look at draft picks and value them by the player they were used to acquire. Its one thing if its a first or second overall and there is little doubt who the pick will be used on. But Mike Green was taken with the Wings' 29th overall pick. Its hard to say with any kind of certainty that the Wings would have taken Green.

There is also no telling if he would have become what he is today in the Wings' system. Washington was able to get Green into the NHL a lot sooner than the Wings may have and the Wings usually require a level of defensive responsibility that Mike Green lacks. There is just as much chance that even IF the Wings had retained that pick AND actually used it to select Green, that he could have been better used as a top 2 defenseman, never realizing his potential or getting to play much for the Wings' given his inability to appear competent defensively enough to take someone else's job, eventually being waived as a spare part before realizing his true potential as a top defenseman elsewhere. Sound like someone we know?

[Miller Brew 0]

Lang

then Bertuzzi

Lang trade looked good when it happened but eventually was a nightmare.

Bertuzzi didn't came with big expectation but he also didn't excel a lot.

now Matthias and draft pick did hurt us.

honorable mention (though, not a trade): Kenny letting Hasek unretire and create

Hasek/Cujo/Legace controversy

Doesn't look like Matthias was keeper anyhow from looking at his stats. Granted he's playing for the Panthers, he's not tearing it up. He's no Abdelkader or Helm, that's for sure. And from the looks of things, Bertuzzi is here for $1.5 million and has single handedly won games for the Detroit Red Wings to keep us in within reach of a playoff spot. Bert said he wanted back to Detroit and now he is. Thanks to Matthias!

Now if Holland signs Bert to a long term deal and keeps him here, all is good.

Edited January 10, 2010 by Miller Brew

[Tane 17]

Though it is just outside the decade qualification, the worst I think was when the Wings acquired Wendel Clark, Bill Ranford, and Ulf Samuelsson. Looked good when it happened, but turned bad since the team did not get past the 2nd round of the playoffs that year

Well, Let's see what we really gave up.

We Got Wendel Clark and our own 6th round pick back (Possibly from teh Shawn Burr/Ben Hankinson Trade? Ben Hankinson, Terrible Trade)

for

Kevin Hodson and San Jose's 2nd round choice (previously acquired, Tampa Bay selected Sheldon Keefe) in 1999 Entry Draft

Meh. I liked Hodson, But really, we didn't give up much

Ulf Samuelsson

March 23, 1999 – Traded by the New York Rangers to the Detroit Red Wings in exchange for Detroit's 1999 2nd round draft choice and the Ranger's 1999 3rd round draft choice. (99 2nd round pick was - David Inman, 3rd round pick - Patrick Aufiero)

Gave up Nothing for Samuelsson's 4 Games with us.

Bill Ranford

We got him for a "conditional" Draft pick. I'm not going to do the research to find out what that turned out to be. But if the conditions were If he sucks, you don't get much.....they didn't get much.

We Got Chelios For Ericsson and 2 First Rounders.

(Steve McCarthy and Adam Munro)

think we had a Decent Deadline. Loaded up for the Playoffs. Gave up Nothing. Just like the Lang and Bertuzzi deals....gotta like the Fact that if we have a Chance at the Cup, we'll go out and get the best available players in order to push us over the top.

[Guest micah]

Gave up Nothing for Samuelsson's 4 Games with us.

We gave up any reputation we might have had of being a classy organisation.

[wings1110 184]

Waiving Quincey

[GMRwings1983 8,804]

I wish Sean Avery was still here, but that trade didn't look too bad trading Kuznetsov and Sean Avery for Schneider.

Kuznetsov was a bust and Avery at the time didn't look like anything special. Now he's a good offensive player and a great agitator.

Still, I wonder how things would have turned out had we not made that trade. Would Avery have been too big a distraction to this team's success, or would the leadership here have shut him up sufficiently to change his career trajectory?

[Seraph 240]

My guess is Mike Green probably wouldn't even be the same type of player he is if he came through our system.

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

My guess is Mike Green probably wouldn't even be the same type of player he is if he came through our system.

That would probably ultimately be a good thing for his career, as somewhere along the way someone in the Wings organization would've taught him defense.

[akustyk 84]

That would probably ultimately be a good thing for his career, as somewhere along the way someone in the Wings organization would've taught him defense.

this

[Guest Lidstromboli]

he seems to be making pretty good money being sub-par defensively

[MotorCityMadness 388]

Well, Let's see what we really gave up.

We Got Wendel Clark and our own 6th round pick back (Possibly from teh Shawn Burr/Ben Hankinson Trade? Ben Hankinson, Terrible Trade)

for

Kevin Hodson and San Jose's 2nd round choice (previously acquired, Tampa Bay selected Sheldon Keefe) in 1999 Entry Draft

Meh. I liked Hodson, But really, we didn't give up much

Ulf Samuelsson

March 23, 1999 – Traded by the New York Rangers to the Detroit Red Wings in exchange for Detroit's 1999 2nd round draft choice and the Ranger's 1999 3rd round draft choice. (99 2nd round pick was - David Inman, 3rd round pick - Patrick Aufiero)

Gave up Nothing for Samuelsson's 4 Games with us.

Bill Ranford

We got him for a "conditional" Draft pick. I'm not going to do the research to find out what that turned out to be. But if the conditions were If he sucks, you don't get much.....they didn't get much.

We Got Chelios For Ericsson and 2 First Rounders.

(Steve McCarthy and Adam Munro)

think we had a Decent Deadline. Loaded up for the Playoffs. Gave up Nothing. Just like the Lang and Bertuzzi deals....gotta like the Fact that if we have a Chance at the Cup, we'll go out and get the best available players in order to push us over the top.

I was simply going by what the success was after the deal was made...we should have had a 3rd straight cup that year, but oh well