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Ville Leino Appreciation Thread

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Hmm... wonder why it's many time the same thing with guys like Leino who are borderline top6 players. Everytime they're not doing well they seem lazy. Like I said, I bet a guy like Briere wouldn't look great out there if he wasn't producing offensively. And again I ask: are almost every skilled offensive guys playing top6 outside NHL even lazyer than Leino, because they didn't even try to get to the NHL?

If you don't see some guy work every day you can't really say he's lazy. It's different working hard and "working hard" in the corners, backchecking etc. I see guys like Teemu Selanne who rarely do anything without the puck. They provide offense, but are useless if they don't do it.

Are they lazy? What do you think being lazy even means then? Lazy compared to what? At least compared to average fan like you, I don't think you can call any professional athlete lazy.

I saw Leino give up on more plays than I care to count. GIVE UP. Put his stick in the air and skate for the bench. When he lost possession (which was often), he didn't bother to try and get the puck back. When he had possession, he would telegraph a ridiculous move, then try and pull it off on the perimeter... fooling nobody. We wasn't willing to drive the net on a regular basis. He lost most of his individual battles. Put a half assed effort into backchecking. Was weak on the puck.

You can call that whatever you want... but I call that laziness.

By your logic... nobody that has a job can ever be considered lazy. Guess what... when someone shows up to the office everyday and doesn't try... he is lazy. Having a job doesn't automatically make you unlazy. Get a clue. A professional athlete is no different than any other kind of professional.

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http://detnews.com/article/20091229/OPINION03/912290343/Ville-Leino-understands-demotion

More than just perceived. It was a realized lack of effort.

That article actually has no quote of Babcock saying anything like that. The reporter said Babcock said it, but no quote. Then again the reporter also says: "His confidence is down, so he's not scoring and not winning individual battles."

Ville Leino Article - Praising his value to the Flyers, lol

haha, Leino takes the attention of the three Habs and Gagne ends up scoring on PP for flyers. Stupid Habs.

Quote of Peter Laviolette from that article: “I think he’s gained more confidence in himself, with his teammates, with his line and certainly with me,” Laviolette said. “He’s been excellent for us in the playoffs — a very skilled player.”

Flyers score and Leino is doing the dirty work in front of the net. Gets an assist for the reward.

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That article actually has no quote of Babcock saying anything like that. The reporter said Babcock said it, but no quote. Then again the reporter also says: "His confidence is down, so he's not scoring and not winning individual battles."

Quote of Peter Laviolette from that article: “I think he’s gained more confidence in himself, with his teammates, with his line and certainly with me,” Laviolette said. “He’s been excellent for us in the playoffs — a very skilled player.”

Flyers score and Leino is doing the dirty work in front of the net. Gets an assist for the reward.

From where I'm sitting, it's starting to look like Leino only comes to play in the playoffs. Sucks for the team that has to suffer with him through the regular season. Glad we could keep him warmed up for the Flyers. I'm rooting for them anyway (for some reason, I don't hate Pronger nearly as much since he went to the East).

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Another multi-point game for our boy, Ville Leino. I'm glad he's playing so well.

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Wow... it`s almost like the retarded knee-jerk reactions people like to make about rookies on LGW aren`t rooted in reality. Hmm... I guess talent doesn`t evaporate when you fail to put it to use in your first season.

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yeah well see how good he is once he faces a team in the west.

He appears to be battling harder. Maybe he finally shed his lazy ways (yes, at this point I'm using the word lazy strictly to annoy FinnishWing). I'm still reserving judgment until next season.

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Wow... it`s almost like the retarded knee-jerk reactions people like to make about rookies on LGW aren`t rooted in reality. Hmm... I guess talent doesn`t evaporate when you fail to put it to use in your first season.

Talent only matters when you play hard.

He never played this hard for the Wings. Don't know if it's the playoff atmosphere that's woken him up, but he was sleepwalking most of his time in our lineup.

You really think a "genius" like Holland/Babcock would let him go so easily if they didn't think he was a lazy ass?

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I'm still under the belief that we had to force him into a position he wasn't ready for (due to all our injuries). I don't think he was able to perform under pressure. When he went to Philly, there was no pressure on him, and he's performing. It's not unheard of that a guy underachieves for one team but shows his potential for another.

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I'm still under the belief that we had to force him into a position he wasn't ready for (due to all our injuries). I don't think he was able to perform under pressure. When he went to Philly, there was no pressure on him, and he's performing. It's not unheard of that a guy underachieves for one team but shows his potential for another.

He's the one that demanded a one way contract. He made his own bed.

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He's the one that demanded a one way contract. He made his own bed.

Holland is the one who decided to give it to him plus get Williams. Insted, maybe he should've gone after Hudler etc.

Is it Cambell's fault that he's overpaid? Or the GM's?

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