jollymania 162 Report post Posted January 24, 2010 I hope mickey wasn't sipping on his flask at that moment Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sherwood40 16 Report post Posted January 24, 2010 I hope its true because this team needs ALOT of help right now after watching that ugly game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zion 93 Report post Posted January 24, 2010 What? What? What???!!! Please stop joking around... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeff48109 474 Report post Posted January 24, 2010 we just need to split the Lebda-Ericsson pairing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sherwood40 16 Report post Posted January 24, 2010 We would be under the salary cap if we did this lineup: Pavel Datsyuk — $6,700,000 Henrik Zetterberg — $6,083,333 Johan Franzen — $3,954,545 Valtteri Filppula — $3,000,000 Daniel Cleary — $2,800,000 * Tomas Holmstrom — $2,250,000 Kris Draper — $1,583,333 * Jason Williams — $1,500,000 * Todd Bertuzzi — $1,500,000 * Kirk Maltby — $883,000 Ville Leino — $800,000 * Darren Helm — $599,000 * Patrick Eaves — $500,000 DEFENSEMEN * Nicklas Lidstrom — $7,450,000 Brian Rafalski — $6,000,000 Brad Stuart — $3,750,000 Niklas Kronwall — $3,000,000 * Andreas Lilja — $1,250,000 Jonathan Ericsson — $900,000 GOALTENDERS Chris Osgood — $1,416,666 Jimmy Howard — $716,666 BUYOUTS NONE LOST VIA REENTRY WAIVERS NONE CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS ROSTER SIZE 21 SALARY CAP $56,800,000 PAYROLL $56,636,543 BONUSES $0 CAP SPACE $163,457 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted January 24, 2010 I hope to God that they waive Lebda once Lilja comes back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
InKennyWeTrust 126 Report post Posted January 24, 2010 Best news since 2008! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcom007 1,465 Report post Posted January 24, 2010 I think we would've won the Cup last year if we had Lilja. It wasn't like we lost it because we didn't have him so much, but I think he would've helped put us over the top in the battle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsyerberger 279 Report post Posted January 24, 2010 For GMR: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NvrFrgtRussian5 85 Report post Posted January 24, 2010 http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/20...and_says_2.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Howard He Do It?! Report post Posted January 24, 2010 http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/20...and_says_2.html Damn you Mickey! I knew it was too good to be true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z and D for the C 712 Report post Posted January 24, 2010 http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/20...and_says_2.html Yeah, much too good to be true, especially so sudden. I would expect that even if Lilja's headaches stopped today, he still wouldn't play by the end of the season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heroes of Hockeytown 694 Report post Posted January 24, 2010 Mickey must have had one too many ginger ales. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcom007 1,465 Report post Posted January 24, 2010 Either that or Holland wants him on LTIR until the playoffs... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Howard He Do It?! Report post Posted January 24, 2010 Either that or Holland wants him on LTIR until the playoffs... Why would Holland want Lilja seeing his first minutes of ice time in over a year during the playoffs? That is a disaster waiting to happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted January 24, 2010 http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/20...and_says_2.html WFT? Nice work getting my hopes up for nothing Mickey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zetts 236 Report post Posted January 24, 2010 Even had he been cleared to come back it wouldn't solve anything. He hasn't played in a year or so. It would cost us points trying to get him back into the game. Lebda, despite people's over the top hatred for him, is a better option at the moment than Lilja who's been out for a year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcom007 1,465 Report post Posted January 24, 2010 Why would Holland want Lilja seeing his first minutes of ice time in over a year during the playoffs? That is a disaster waiting to happen. If Lilja's practicing every day and feeling good, it wouldn't be a disaster, though perhaps he wants to wait until the trade deadline only to keep all options open. but he's a 3rd pairing defensemen and more of a stay at home guy. It wouldn't kill us to start him in the playoffs after being out for the season when on the other hand you risk having to give depth guys away that maybe you don't want to, especially after all of our injury troubles this year. Could he really be so much worse than Meech or Lebda? The worst thing that could happen is he blows it and we go back to Meech or Lebda. Remember, they could probably give him a conditioning stint in GR too, though I'm not sure if that counts against the cap or not at that point. Basically, I'm just saying that while I'm not wholly convinced that his return is imminent, I also am not convinced that Holland wouldn't want to keep it quiet or be as "cautious" as possible for as long as possible due to cap issues and the trade deadline. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted January 24, 2010 (edited) Either that or Holland wants him on LTIR until the playoffs... Actually, come to think of it I think it's something along those lines. Right now the Wings are set to make some tough decisions on this roster with so many guys about to come back in the next 2 weeks. Aside from Lilja this team will be healthy in about 2 weeks, right? So throwing Lilja into that mix just forces Holland's hand that much earlier. To me it makes more sense for Holland to wait until he has Kronwall's return date nailed down and knows he's healthy and back up to speed before he plays his hand with Lilja's status. Keep Lilja on the LTIR for as long as possible then send him to GR for a 2 week conditioning stint (I believe that's the max length). Basically, Holland will want to maximize his time to play around with the cap and roster decisions before he has to set things in stone and start trading/waiving. At this point it's a given that once all of the injured players are off LTIR Holland will have to trade or waive at least one player. EDIT: Also note that Lilja needed just 7 days without headaches to start contact practice and check if the start to come back. So that means we really wouldn't hear much about it until he's had at least that 7 day headache free period. The longest I heard of him going was 3-4 days and that was way back when he saw that chiropractor in Vancouver. It makes sense that Mickey might be talking to the guys and get more candid responses than what you'd get from the 'company line'. I just can't imagine Mickey pulling that 'back in 1 week' line out of his ass. Edited January 24, 2010 by Drake_Marcus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcom007 1,465 Report post Posted January 24, 2010 Even had he been cleared to come back it wouldn't solve anything. He hasn't played in a year or so. It would cost us points trying to get him back into the game. Lebda, despite people's over the top hatred for him, is a better option at the moment than Lilja who's been out for a year. This idea is incredibly exaggerated, generally not true, and it's really getting old. Just another cliche with no merit on the message board these days... "It would cost us points..." "It would cost us points..." "It would cost us points..." Lots of things cost us points!!!!!!! I guarantee you that there's no statistical substance to suggest that this theory is really true, especially when we're talking about a 3rd pairing defenseman! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Howard He Do It?! Report post Posted January 24, 2010 If Lilja's practicing every day and feeling good, it wouldn't be a disaster, though perhaps he wants to wait until the trade deadline only to keep all options open. but he's a 3rd pairing defensemen and more of a stay at home guy. It wouldn't kill us to start him in the playoffs after being out for the season when on the other hand you risk having to give depth guys away that maybe you don't want to, especially after all of our injury troubles this year. Could he really be so much worse than Meech or Lebda? The worst thing that could happen is he blows it and we go back to Meech or Lebda. Remember, they could probably give him a conditioning stint in GR too, though I'm not sure if that counts against the cap or not at that point. Basically, I'm just saying that while I'm not wholly convinced that his return is imminent, I also am not convinced that Holland wouldn't want to keep it quiet or be as "cautious" as possible for as long as possible due to cap issues and the trade deadline. It doesn't matter what kind of game you play and how much practice you have, game conditions are way faster and take time to re-acclimate to. Lilja has been out of the game for a long time and cannot be thrown out there during the playoffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcom007 1,465 Report post Posted January 24, 2010 Actually, come to think of it I think it's something along those lines. Right now the Wings are set to make some tough decisions on this roster with so many guys about to come back in the next 2 weeks. Aside from Lilja this team will be healthy in about 2 weeks, right? So throwing Lilja into that mix just forces Holland's hand that much earlier. To me it makes more sense for Holland to wait until he has Kronwall's return date nailed down and knows he's healthy and back up to speed before he plays his hand with Lilja's status. Keep Lilja on the LTIR for as long as possible then send him to GR for a 2 week conditioning stint (I believe that's the max length). Basically, Holland will want to maximize his time to play around with the cap and roster decisions before he has to set things in stone and start trading/waiving. At this point it's a given that once all of the injured players are off LTIR Holland will have to trade or waive at least one player. Exactly what I'm thinking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DatsyukianDeke13 Report post Posted January 24, 2010 http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/20...and_says_2.html DETROIT -- Detroit Red Wings general manager Ken Holland said Saturday night that he has no knowledge of defenseman Andreas Lilja returning next week from a concussion that has idled him since Feb. 28 of last year. Red Wings TV analyst Mickey Redmond said during Saturday's telecast on Fox Sports Net that Lilja could return next week. This was news to Holland, who last spoke to Lilja on Tuesday and was told nothing had changed. Lilja also said Thursday in Minnesota that he was not close to returning. "Nothing has changed,'' Holland said. "I'm not aware of that (Redmond's comment). He (Lilja) has good days and bad days. Nobody has said anything to me that he's getting close.'' Lilja has been practicing with the team for months but continues to experience headaches. He must be symptom-free for an extended period of time before being cleared to play, Holland said Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted January 24, 2010 Sigh. I knew it was too good to be true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Howard He Do It?! Report post Posted January 24, 2010 Already posted in this merged thread. http://www.letsgowings.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=62752 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
