jollymania 162 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 Who cares about the hit, what a glorious, hard working goal. the hit was much better, it was a good goal though, there are many better though, there arent many hits that top that one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jollymania 162 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 While the contact of the hit itself was clean shoulder to (mostly) shoulder, it was a blindside hit, about which a number of NHL GMs and others have voiced their displeasure. in this situation if your carter you have ot go for the hit, it was all he could do to prevent the goal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 that hit was crappy anyways though, it is only famous because of the aftermath Agreed, I just use it because people seem to think shoulder to head hits just started happening. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zettie85 106 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 Seriously is it just me noticing or did it take a minute for a trainer to actually get on the ice? I don't think the video seems edited but after they show a minute of replays they cut back to a live shot and the trainer is just getting there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjlegend 155 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 Clean hit but I wonder what Lou thinks about head shots now. Keith Jones is a Wings-hating idiot and has been since he played for the Avs. I just thought I'd add that because I really hate that him and Dave Reid get to go on television every few days on either Versus or the NHL Network and tell everyone the Wings are s***ty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puckbags 863 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 Counting his skate laces, kabooooom ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seeinred 1,488 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 Who cares about the hit, what a glorious, hard working goal. I'm glad at least one person knows. A giant hit doesn't mean s*** if the dude scores. That's paying the price. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miksteri 55 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 Lets demolish everyone that scores, usually theres a fight after big hits, why isnt there one now? oh yeah, Salmela is not a "star" player, fk him then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yzerfan1999 81 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 (edited) I love the "keep your head up" comment. He was face to face with the goalie trying to score a goal. How many players in the league would look behind them when the only player left to beat is the goalie? And please, stop referring to this as a "clean hit". It wasn't "clean", it was LEGAL under current NHL rules. It was shoulder to head - he may have grazed his shoulder momentarily, but the guy wouldn't have been knocked out before he hit the ice if it was a solid shoulder to shoulder check. Not to mention it was a blindside... Legal, but not clean. I'd rather see blindsides and head shots penalized than see guys get blown up like that. Hahahah oh and I like at the end of the video, you can hear that fat pig from Sportsnet talking about how Carter 'cant help it when he's that big'. Dipping into to Brian Burke's bag of trick there from the Pronger/Holmstrom elbow in 2007 WCF. Edited February 9, 2010 by Yzerfan1999 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 The replay at the 32-36 second mark looks like it was shoulder then head contact. Then the one starting at 41 seconds looks different but I dont think it was a late hit like the announcer claims. These players need to stop lowering their heads down and stand up a little straighter. To me it look like that would of been shoulder to shoulder if the player did not bend down a little. EDIT: Also a a blindside hit IMHO Try shooting straight up and let me know how that goes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 Try shooting straight up and let me know how that goes. Try shooting when someone is about to hit you. Oh wait just ask Salmela... Clean hit is clean, nice goal hope he's ok. Hockey is a great game. The End. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dat's sick 1,002 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 i think maybe he could have tried to stop the goal instead. THIS. I don't see the need to lay a guy out in that situation. Plus, it's a blind-side hit and to me it comes down to what Redmond is always talking about: lack of respect. And it catches Salmela in the head for sure, it's just hard to see on some of the replays. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Finnish Wing 110 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 (edited) Shoulder to shoulder. Clean hit. But these "keep your head up" comments are just ridiculous in this situation as he just scored a goal there. Edited February 9, 2010 by Finnish Wing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShadyGuitarist 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 I say clean, but did anyone else notice in the last 20 sec or so of the video one of the guys sas "It looks like he got a little head there" lmao. Hope salmela is alright though. Good goal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 in this situation if your carter you have ot go for the hit, it was all he could do to prevent the goal I dont' know about that. I think players should start letting up when they know the other guy has no idea they are going to get hit. I know it never used to be that way, but with guys getting bigger and equipment getting harder, guys lives are at risk here. I'm not saying someone is going to get killed, but the damage to the head can't be good. I remember a few weeks back a similar player, or at least a similar player who was vulnerable to a big hit. Player was coming around that net, followed by a defender and Iginla was coming from the other side getting ready for a big hit, but when it was clear that he was looking the other way, in a vulnerable position, Iginla let up big time and just bumped the guy. I think part of it is showing respect for the other player. I think it's tough though and a pretty fine line because a lot of me thinks that if you have a guy driving the net with his head down, he needs to be taught a lesson. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dicksmack 33 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 Clean hit, unlike the Messier elbow... Driving to the net is inherently dangerous and that's what is meant by players being willing go to the tough places to score. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckeyeWingsfan80 209 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 can't wait til there's an actual rule regarding head shots So you want the NHL to ban face-planting into the ice from a clean hit?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superstarsingh 23 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 I love the "keep your head up" comment. He was face to face with the goalie trying to score a goal. How many players in the league would look behind them when the only player left to beat is the goalie? And please, stop referring to this as a "clean hit". It wasn't "clean", it was LEGAL under current NHL rules. It was shoulder to head - he may have grazed his shoulder momentarily, but the guy wouldn't have been knocked out before he hit the ice if it was a solid shoulder to shoulder check. Not to mention it was a blindside... Legal, but not clean. I'd rather see blindsides and head shots penalized than see guys get blown up like that. That hit was clean. It was unecessary as Carter could have tried to lift his stick to prevent the shot but it was still clean. His head is down, I understand that he is trying to score a goal but if his had of been up, and squarely facing the goalie, I doubt this would have been this severe. I would rather see penalties for such things to but until it is enforced this sort of thing will continue to happen, unfortunately. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edicius 3,269 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 Shoulder to shoulder? Yep. Blindside hit? Yup. Late hit? Debatable. I'm more impressed that Salmela ended up scoring. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edicius 3,269 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 Agreed. If anything it might've been Salmela's own shoulder pad that smacked him in the jaw causing him to get knocked out...Overall it was a clean hit, and I agree with what Scott Stevens said a few weeks ago about pen for hits to the head. That's exactly what I was thinking too. I didn't see anything about the hit itself that would have knocked out Salmela. Bet if he was wearing Shanny's shoulder pads he wouldn't have gotten knocked out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 Classless hit by Carter... but also a clean hit... I'm torn on shots like these, because this was Anssi's own fault... you put your chin down and you're ASKING to get labled, but at the same token Carter didn't even TRY and aim for his chest, and very clearly went high... Under the current rules, nothing wrong with this hit... but the league does need to do something about this, ALONG with the NHLPA educating players better on protecting THEMSELVES and not relying on the rules... long and the short of it, I think Carter took some liberties, but did nothing technically wrong, or against the rules... code of honor, maybe, but nothing against the rules... if a suspension or fine comes from this, it will be a shame..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jollymania 162 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 Agreed, I just use it because people seem to think shoulder to head hits just started happening. ahh gotcha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 Yup - I'm a firm believer that the NHL/NHLPA should get rid of these football styled shoulder pads/elbow pads that have hard plastic caps...What was worn by guys like Shanny/Chelios should be standard for each player - no exceptions! --- well... not what Shanny wore, those protect no one and are basically just string, haha the Sherwood's in the picture are what should be worn though and I agree 100% about hard cap pads... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jollymania 162 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 well... not what Shanny wore, those protect no one and are basically just string, haha the Sherwood's in the picture are what should be worn though and I agree 100% about hard cap pads... i have the older version of these pads and they still have plastic in the shoulders. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 Frankly, I'm suprised that nobody went after Carter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
